Nigel Farage on abortions- slippery slope?

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Following the speech, Farage was also asked about his view on abortion limits. He replied that he was pro-choice but that it was "utterly ludicrous" for abortion to be allowed up to 24 weeks, when a hospital would "move heaven and earth" to help a baby born at 22 weeks survive.

Aibu to think it may be a slippery slope to reducing the number of weeks until it is effectively banned...

Anyway it's a bit of a non issue on Nigel's part given nearly 94% of reported abortions happen before two and a half months of pregnancy.so very few abortions happen at 24 weeks.

Now i remember why I requested a tubal ligation when I was pregnant with first baby as I didn't want anymore in any circumstances. It was predictably denied so dh got a vasectomy instead.

He brought up single sex spaces and advocated what the Supreme Court ruled. You're seeing the boogeyman around every corner.

But the US system is not comparable to what we have here. The removal of Roe v Wade is already a huge setback and there is a literal exodus of young women and families from the strictest red states for that reason. It's already screwing the US on a pretty major scale because of the dire ramifications on women's health overall - it means delayed treatment for issues in pregnancy for starters, with terrifying consequences. Who would want that? Trump does not need a federal ban to wreak havoc on that front. Internal migration is not really being talked about but I guarantee you it'll be have a significant impact if things go on as they are. Of course, the poorest states will get poorer - what usually happens when disenfranchised communities vote for populists.

Ah well that makes it alright then...
Please.

No, it makes it another practice of common sense. Are you saying you don't agree with him?

The US system is not comparable to what we have here - exactly. You got there.

I am saying the man is no woman's friend, and especially not the MAGA ultra-right evangelical nutters who have backed him and whom he's beholden to.
Just because he happens to agree with ONE thing that feminists have been advocating does not mean he's pro-women!

No YOU brought up a federal ban. Don't twist things.
And that is by the way precisely why MAGA needs local mouthpieces who can work their country's system.

Any so-called feminist who backs Trump or any of his local avatars in other countries is a turkey voting for Christmas.

You're really getting yourself worked up through your loathing of a political party. No, I raised the federal ban as an indicator that Trump needs to lead from the front if he is to interfere in UK law. Which, as I said, would be a massive mountain to climb. You're showing some thinking, utterly it's certainly not of the critical kind. Good day. 👍

And here we are: insults.
Slow clap.

More histrionics 🙄

A statement of fact sadly.

Well that's what Reform voters get, day in, day out.

No, I raised the federal ban as an indicator that Trump needs to lead from the front if he is to interfere in UK law

This makes no sense whatsoever. Leading from the front' does not mean anything here - as I've said upthread, the situation in the US regarding abortion rights is already pretty dire. In any case, powerful countries (including the US) have always used a variety of methods to put pressure on other regimes/countries. Anyone who's interested in politics will know that influence is pretty much always covert, and applied through local pressure groups, think tanks and politicians.

Don't vote for a such a horrible man then. Play stupid games...

You don't get to tell me who to vote for. I'm not the one losing it over a legitimate MP's view on which 50 per cent on here agree with. The name Farage has you terrified. A disproportionate response to a valid proposal is only to be expected. Pathetic.

Men do get 'a say', but how can it be anything other than the woman's choice whether or not to give birth, ultimately?

I get 'a say' in what career choices my partner may want to make as it effects me and the kids, but ultimately if he wants to be a oil rig worker, or join the foreign legion (or just nope out of work entirely) - that can only be his choice.

I'm not telling you who to vote for. But you equally can't tell me how to react to who you vote for.
My response to this topic has had nothing to do with who has said it. Feel free to read back and check if you don't beleive me. I can have an opinion on both a topic and a person entirely independently thanks.

Sorry-that was supposed to be ironic! . I don’t think men should have any say at all in whether a woman chooses to have an abortion or not. I realise that could feel unfair- but that’s how nature works.

Sorry-that was supposed to be ironic! . I don’t think men should have any say at all in whether a woman chooses to have an abortion or not. I realise that could feel unfair- but that’s how nature works.

Haha - the old 52-48 division strikes again!
By the way no one is 'terrified' of Farage- that would make too big a deal of him. In fact I disagree with Starmer bigging up Reform as the main opposition. It's just important to draw attention to what the agenda is, what it means for us women in the UK, and to the fact that it's an imported element of the culture wars. It's to political thought what Japanese knotweed is to gardens...