Nigel Farage on abortions- slippery slope?

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Following the speech, Farage was also asked about his view on abortion limits. He replied that he was pro-choice but that it was "utterly ludicrous" for abortion to be allowed up to 24 weeks, when a hospital would "move heaven and earth" to help a baby born at 22 weeks survive.

Aibu to think it may be a slippery slope to reducing the number of weeks until it is effectively banned...

Anyway it's a bit of a non issue on Nigel's part given nearly 94% of reported abortions happen before two and a half months of pregnancy.so very few abortions happen at 24 weeks.

Now i remember why I requested a tubal ligation when I was pregnant with first baby as I didn't want anymore in any circumstances. It was predictably denied so dh got a vasectomy instead.

It’s just the sheer level of judging that gets me. Where people think they can police the reasonings and judge if it’s bad enough or not to warrant one.
it’s just awful

Exactly, this is why politics, religion, and personal morals or "feelings" need to butt the hell out.

Abortion is about medical ethics, so it can only be decided by medical experts who have the wide-ranging experience of medical practice treating women, and knowledge of science to make these decisions (along with women's groups, who understand the real outcomes of those decisions).

It is rubbish indeed, but legally, it is true.

Funny how the detrimental to mental health of having an unwanted baby doesn't apply to men. Tough, they have to deal with it!

I wish the law was more honest. Abortions are legal because we want women to have a choice.

It’s just the sheer level of judging that gets me. Where people think they can police the reasonings and judge if it’s bad enough or not to warrant one
You can have an opinion on the morality of a choice without judging those who make a choice.

I think for many their opinion of abortion under 10 weeks is very different to after 20 weeks.

There was a total of about 2500 abortions between 20 and 24 weeks in 2022.

Oh my gosh, I got really into the NHS stats on abortions in 2022 on the back of this. Fascinating! What is going on in the NW England? Why are abortion rates so high?
Thank goodness they are falling for under 18s generally across the Uk, that’s a lot of familial struggle avoided.
why are rates going up for over 35s? Are there more divorces? Are women over 35 in better health and having more risky sex? Or are they in worse financial situations and can’t afford a baby? Or have they all assumed they are in menopause and gone off their contraception?
It is fascinating.

You are being ironic/joking with our comment about men’s mental health, aren’t you? Tell me you are….

Men have their moment of choice when they decide whether or not to insert their penis into a woman's vagina. The moment they choose to do that, they need to accept that they are taking the risk of an unplanned pregnancy.

And honestly, that's choice enough - men don't need to go through any of the very real hardships a woman goes through in pregnancy and birth.

You are being ironic/joking with our comment about men’s mental health, aren’t you? Tell me you are….
Nope, I'm not at all 😁 As in I don't think it's a 'good excuse' for men nor women!

I agree. The solution is to have abortion on demand up to whatever limit is chosen (I would suggest the NZ limit of 20 weeks) and after that the decision is taken between the woman and her physician. Abortion should be removed entirely from the domain of criminal justice. I hope the proposed bill to achieve just that passes and becomes law.

And Nigel Farage can fuck off with his natalist crap.

I agree it’s late and should be earlier (unless there are complications with mother or foetus's health )

When my 20 week came back abnormal, that's exactly what I was told.

Edited for missing word.

Nigel Farage can f off with his natalist crap for sure.

And with his crypto plans! This is going to invite SO MUCH CORRUPTION into UK politics and into the UK at large. And again, not even an original idea - it's already being done by the Donald (his boss):
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/may/29/reform-uk-to-accept-donations-via-bitcoin-nigel-farage-says

The 24 week limit is based on potential viability, not around the 20 week scan. And as abortion for serious abnormalities is permitted up to term the two are not directly tied.

Oh yeah I forgot how men have a fetus growing inside them for months and then have to go through either pushing it out through their body or invasive abdominal surgery. I forgot about how their bodies’ hormonal balance alters massively as a result and can even end up with severe depression or psychosis just because they have been pregnant. And then men also have their breasts engorge with milk as well to feed the baby. So yeah given that, we definitely should take account of their mental health if they don’t want a baby 🙄

More irrelevance to the OP.

It is relevant inasmuch as you should look at a party through their overall agenda. This helps paint a picture of the direction a Reform government would go. Those things may not look connected but they should not be looked at in isolation.

Yes-they should 100% have a say. After all-their lives are going to change so much if they have a baby.

The constant reference to Trump is very much irrelevant. How on earth are state abortion bans in the US going to affect the UK? There would have to be a lot of leap frogging of parliamentary sovereignty and judicial precedence to even arrive there. Trump has also rejected the pressure for a national ban. Farage is talking common sense on this. The only reason this poll goes in favour of the OP is that it's Farage who is the proponent. When it comes to Reform, there is nothing more than moral panic, most often led by the Guardian.

Honestly, if you don't see the glaringly obvious link between MAGA and Reform you are truly and wilfully blind.

It's not just Reform by the way, it's all the similar parties around the world that aim to take over from liberal democracies. It's a franchise.

What @StandFirm says.

Care to explain how Trump can influence the UK on implementing an abortion ban - aside from (laughably) using Farage as a conduit?

Why would he bring up abortion, eh? Since when has that really been a topic in British society (apart from a few fringe extremist Christians, and NI which I know has its own history here)

By actively putting pressure (already now as we speak) on the British government. Constantly banging on about 'free speech' and use trade links/ economic interests as leverage. Happening every single day. Right now.

Hmmm...well he would have to lead by example and implement a national ban in the US first.