To want to know what you're sick of about men !

[GingerPussInBoots]

OK, OK its not all men

But this comment on another thread ade me laugh so much and I seriously related, anything else you'd like to add?

When they say they like natural looking women [without much make up or hair or fake stuff or spending too much time on appearance etc etc]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Bless their little innocent hearts they have no idea what they're talking about.

What they actually like is women who do a f*ck tonne of stuff in order to carry a certain look that has been marketed as so-called "natural" but is in fact NOT natural.

"their entitlement to making judgements about women's bodies" - a bit ironic in a post that is literally judging mens mental abilities and competency

Hahha @MuffinsAreJustCakesAtBreakfast
Totally agree with this!
I dated someone who said he only dated women who were completely natural!
Silly fool never realised I have my eyebrows tattooed, permanent fake tan (in a light shade to be fair), botox 4 times a year, and have to shave/pluck everyday to prevent me looking like King Kong.

Yet we read about women being murdered (and in cases like the Hunt murders, whole families) everyday because the men think the women don't have the right to end a relationship, or turn down sex. I've known four women murdered under such circumstances, in one case her and her Mother, you are incredibly lucky if it hasn't happened locally to you. I'm sick of children dying in house fires the Mother's ex (and usually the father) have started, just because she doesn't want carry on living with abuse.

So yesterday I am at gym, where we have little pods for our workouts with our needed equipment in it, matts, weights, etc. I had an elastic band set up on an upright for a resistance exercise, dude in next pod walks over & takes it off so he can use it.
I said, “I am using that, put it back!” I did not say please or thank you, on purpose.
Also patriarchy chicken (v amusing expression on a MN thread) where dudes coming in opposite direction won’t move to one side. Also generally being bumped into by blokes.

How many times over your lifetime have you heard women or gay men shouting this publically at random men?

Yeah i'm sure the millions of white men who've been sent off to be cannon fodder in wars were checking their male privilege from the comfort of their trenches.

Or the men who stayed behind and were attacked by women with white feathers for not going.

Look around at all the street homeless most of it is men.

Porn use. It effects all their interactions with women in a negative way.

Yeah, I’m trying, but it’s very complicated and I don’t trust him to take care of his kids.. and he’s trying for 50/50 despite working constantly. It’s very tricky. Narcs are in a league of their own!

Think you've all met the wrong men! Mine isn't perfect but neither am I, nothing winds me up about him or men in general, I just avoid the ones with winding up potential.
My ExH on the other hand, I could write a book on that one! 😆

referring to me and my female colleague as 'the girls'

1. Casual misogyny (although a lot of women display that too.)
2. Always grouping themselves. So they struggle to criticise a man’s behaviour / group of men’s behaviour unless they can “other” themselves from the group being referred to
3. Similar to above - try to make a woman to blame for a man’s behaviour (probably falls under 1).

The way that they absolutely will offer me unsolicited advice/criticism about my bike/riding skills, when I know deep in my heart they would never with another man.

It's the confidence they have to just say anything to me because they know/suspect they will get away with it because I don't pose a physical threat.

Shouting what publicly?

I notice that a lot of men expect me to validate them in some way or they take general politeness as some kind of come on. A huge amount of men seem to have issues of some kind with gambling, porn use, substance abuse, debt and poor emotional regulation getting angry, sulking or violent outbursts.

Even many "nice" men have these issues. My two closest friends one is a consultant doctor, married to a software designer who regularly drinks so much he pisses the bed and they need to use rubber sheets, the other is a university professor married to a solicitor who has essentially gambled their life savings away on the stock market to the point where they can't afford to buy a home in their early 50's.

It isn't all men but their are very few good reliable men to go around for all the good women I know.

Another comment suggests that women maintaining their appearance are doing so for men but that is simply not the case for me anyway. I do look after myself, I eat well, exercise, do Pilates and yoga, I look after my skin and hair but I do so for myself to maintain my own health and wellbeing and for good health as I age. If that makes me more attractive to men and more of a target of their interest then that is a regrettable side effect and not my aim.

I am married to a man I consider decent, I wouldn't be with him otherwise.

Also adult men riding their bikes and e-scooters on the footpath. Its always adult men shouting at you from behind to get out of their way. Its pathetic behaviour.

They have a much more difficult time of it these days than women

Can you give some examples? I’m struggling to come up with any tbh, but maybe I’m too old in my 50’s to hear about young men’s struggles. My DS hasn’t discussed anything at any rate.

The complete lack of humility.

@Gustavo77 Lol, you should be a comedian, you're hilarious, really!

You realise that women were barred from participation in nearly every single occupation that conferred real status or power during those times? Barred by men. Barred from voting too, so they had no means of stopping warmongering men. Barred from becoming elected representatives - what was the makeup of the governments that sent men off to war?

Newsflash - rich white men sent poor white men off to war.

Massice eyeroll @ your hand wringing.

Unfortunately 1 in 4 women are raped by men in their lifetime.

There are no stats to differentiated race like that, or sexuality or anything else that I can think of.

Oh they are! Nobody gets it untill they have the personal horrible experience of one.
Ocht it’s all nonsense how can he possibly have them when he’s working ?
As soon as another female gives him any attention he will be too busy for caring for his own kids

You also hear of men in the same situation too. It's hardly fair to blame ALL men because of these scenarios.

Yes there are.

The insistence by some that any issues faced by women at the hands of men are also faced by men at the hands of women. The refusal to acknowledge the protection afforded by their privilege and physical advantage and pretence that 'if you flipped the sexes' the situation would be the same. Any discussion about male VAWG inevitably joined by some tiresome individual with some anecdote about a violent woman they once knew. The pretence that 'misandry' is the equal opposite to misogyny and that any criticism of men is misandry. Thankfully I don't encounter this much in real life, but on here it's very irritating.