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Mums new partner…red flags or is it me?

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AurumVox · 25/05/2025 23:12

Hi…I really need some advice if possible as I can’t tell if it’s me having an issue with my mums new partner because it’s new or whether I should be genuinely worried.

To give some context, I’m 41/F, my mum is 68. We lost our dad (step father who raised us) 3 years ago and my mum has started dating a guy (73) over the last 6 months. I met him this week as I live about 200 miles away so I’m visiting currently.

I want to start off by saying the huge amount of relief I felt when I found out that mum had met somebody, although it was hard and different I actively encouraged it as I knew how much mum was missing my stepdad who she was with for 31 years, I also worry a lot being so far away so to know that she’s been so happy and that she’s spending time enjoying her self has been the biggest relief.

In the first few months of them dating mum was really quite overwhelmed as she’s very independent, has a great network of friends and stays very busy. The guy she’s started dating is very intense and was wanting to spend all of his time with her so she was finding it hard to balance all the other commitments. I talked a lot to her about seeing it from his perspective as he has also lost his wife around 18 months ago. So I put a lot into talking things through with mum and encouraging her to communicate with him about how she was feeling etc.

About 3 weeks ago mum travelled up to stay with me and I looked after her dog while she went to her place in Crete, while she was staying he was calling her 4 x a day which I thought was a lot! Didn’t say anything though. She said this was normal for him. That he wanted to spend all of his time with her which she didn’t want. She had also said previously that lots of people disliked him because he often says the wrong thing and could be taken as rude / abrupt etc, that perhaps he was slightly lacked social skills. I again said well you know him in a different way so go with the your gut. They met through a solo group of which some of the members have apparently warned mum off him.
They get on great, and she’s said recently she’s totally fallen for him. My mum I would say is a very independent, intelligent, wise lady…so I would never have questioned her choice.

I met him this week, a couple of times now and he has been so rude to me that it was uncomfortable, for myself and for mum. The first time I let it go thinking maybe he’s nervous etc. but the 2nd time was pretty awful. I didn’t want to make a big deal and thought I’d wait for mum to bring it up which she did after he’d gone, saying she’d never seen him behave that rudely towards anybody before. I was surprised I managed not to react but instead I think I just froze and didn’t know what to do.

I also noticed he corrects her all the time and they have this constant ‘banter’ as mum calls it, where they almost argue who is right. To the onlooker it comes across as him telling her she’s wrong about everything. He also has the code to her key safe on the house. When we arrived back from mum staying with me he had let himself in and left her flowers and cooked a meal for us which was left in the fridge - which was a lovely gesture it just felt strange, like he’s totally love bombing her.

I’ve seriously wracked my brain over whether my issue is one of my own - am I still grieving, am I feeling possessive, I’ve gone over and over the mum deserves to be happy and so on. But my gut just can’t get past the way he spoke to me and how he is with her. I actually feel like a petulant child about it (which I hate!)…am I reading too much into it? Am I subconsciously trying to sabotage?! I simply don’t like him and I feel like I’m really trying to.

It’s hard because I obviously miss my stepdad terribly and its weird somebody else being here but I’m highly aware it’s her house, her life, she needs and deserves to be happy (which I want for her more than anything else) and at the end of the day my opinion doesn’t and shouldn’t matter (much).
It’s been strange because I’ve barely seen her and since I’ve been back she’s been over at his or stayed over there and when she’s been here she’s exhausted so our time has been limited. I’ve taken time off from work to come down and spend time with her and I’m pretty much just here doing very little.

I really don’t know what to do. Should I put my feelings aside despite what I feel are red flags? Or should I keep sharing my concerns which is making it really difficult?

Any advice or opinions would be welcomed - I’m realistic and if I’m coming across as bratty then I’m open to that too! I just want an outside non emotional perspective I guess?

OP posts:
Reonie · 03/07/2025 11:18

Mulletgirl · 03/07/2025 11:07

Thats a fantastic outcome @AurumVox. The 'upset' and crying are also red flags and I hope you DM appreciates that these are an effort to manipulate her. But it didnt work and it seems he to have respected her boundaries - for now.

I am glad he isnt going to your DM family event and that she is back seeing her friends without him. I would warn her that he might invent a 'crisis' to prevent or interupt her trip.

I would keep investigating him - try to find our from her friends what he did etc. Also make sure you are in his company when you visit again - so you can see whats going on (although he is likely to be on his best behaviour). Would also track down the step daughter and make contact to see if she has any concerns.

But overall - youve done a great job and your DM has taken it all on board.

Totally agree with this, and that the crying is a huge red flag. Yes people can have emotions but I struggle to see how this is not a sign that his emotional regulation is way off.

I'm so glad you and your mum seem to be on the same page, or at least close to it!

Can I just say as well, that I've been on MN for 20 years, and it has aged up, naturally. One day I will probably be a widow with money and I am really committed to not being in a relationship then. Being aware of the behaviour of some older men is really important.

SpryCat · 03/07/2025 11:23

I would be wary of asking her friends or his past family any information, unless you find out he’s buried his late wife under his patio. Any word that gets back to them, will look like you’re actively trying to ‘parent’ your mum or split them up, it would feel to mum, that everyone is gossiping about her, behind her back. I would google his name, his late wife’s name and towns they’ve lived in, to see if anything flags up because it doesn’t involve anyone else and discrete.

Shesellsseashellsnotinmystreet · 03/07/2025 11:30

If you Google his name op scroll right down to the very very bottom..
I had cause to search a man. What I found wasn't pleasant whatsoever.. Not relationship stuff but animal cruelty... If I had barely looked I wouldn't have found it.
Your dm is very lucky to have you and your dsis...

SpryCat · 03/07/2025 11:34

You know that, everytime she goes out to see her friends, family celebrations and you visiting, will have an effect on him. His emotions will become unregulated, it will be mum who has to decide if the regularly occurring ‘ups and downs’ of him reacting to her seeing family and friends, is worth being in a relationship with him.

saraclara · 03/07/2025 11:37

I know it's not the optimal result (which would be her dumping him) but fair play to her. She's done well, considering. And she's still listening to you and being open with you. That's quite a result.

AurumVox · 03/07/2025 12:05

SpryCat · 03/07/2025 11:14

Wow, your mum has really laid down her boundaries with him! I think your visit helped her, you were pointing out, she was losing herself in order to keep him happy. She wasn’t too happy to hear the truth but I think deep down, your words aligned with the doubts that she was trying to ignore.
If he is as bad as he sounds, your mum is savvy enough to see it now, if he pushes her and try to trample over her boundaries, I do think she would put him in his place and if he goes too far, end it.
You have to be careful not to react towards him, if you do see him and he plays up, just put your hands up, like your surrendering and walk away. You can just say ‘well on that note, I think it’s best to bow out of this conversation and leave’, you either leave room or if you’re out with them go back to your mum’s house, you don’t retort in anger and just say your goodbyes to mum. That way you’ve pointed out his words or behaviour isn’t acceptable to you and you leave the tension behind, for them to talk through, you can’t be blamed for reacting negatively to him or for him to blame you!

@SpryCat thank you for this, that’s a good way to approach it next time I’m home. I did say to mum the night before I left that I’m an adult now therefore I now get to decide who I share my company with and that he is someone I don’t have to be and won’t be around, which I think she took on board too.
I think at some point I need to see him again though to judge how things are and also to make the point mostly that I’m there and intend to be as well.

OP posts:
Notrees · 03/07/2025 12:09

Has your sister met him? I've seen that you've talked about him, but just wondered if she had first hand experience with him.

Well done for the discussions you've had with your mum. I hope she sees sense soon. Good luck

Mulletgirl · 03/07/2025 13:17

SpryCat · 03/07/2025 11:23

I would be wary of asking her friends or his past family any information, unless you find out he’s buried his late wife under his patio. Any word that gets back to them, will look like you’re actively trying to ‘parent’ your mum or split them up, it would feel to mum, that everyone is gossiping about her, behind her back. I would google his name, his late wife’s name and towns they’ve lived in, to see if anything flags up because it doesn’t involve anyone else and discrete.

I disagree - it was the friends who actually chose to proactively tell the DM to be wary of him and that he is bad news. The DM was happy to relay this to her DD.

However there is no info on what actually was dodgy (farting in public, took too many biscuits, sex pest, anger outburts?) - and this info is very important.

I suspect the friends would not say anything further to the DM now they are seemingly in a (longterm?) relationship but might speak privately and objectively to the OP. It also seems that the DM and OP have a respectful enough relationship where the OP could ask the DM if she could do this.

Also where are his extended family and old friends - are they actively in his life currently? Does he even have any - if not why not?

homeismyhaven · 03/07/2025 20:03

@AurumVoxso pleased things are somewhat stable (for now at least!) Sounds like your mum has her head screwed on right and her eyes open, and knows you are there to talk to openly either way- I think you handled it all so well not to make it a ‘you or him’ situation. fingers crossed the ground rules say in place!

Mulletgirl · 01/09/2025 00:31

How are things for your Mum now @AurumVox ? Did she take him along to the family trip? Or did she go and he didn’t pester her? Have you seen him since?

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