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What are your unpopular opinions that most mumsnetters don’t agree with?

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Rosebush1245 · 21/05/2025 20:01

Curious to know what opinions you see constantly on mumsnet that you think “Am I the only person that disagrees with that!?”

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FlakyCritic · 23/05/2025 10:43

SleepingStandingUp · 23/05/2025 10:26

I can't help but think that people who advocate against all abortion bar a few tight restrictions, it's less about the bundle of cells and more about their saviour complex.

There's many situations where consensual sex leading to unplanned pregnancy doesn't mean parenthood is the best choice, or that the child will have a decent life.

But yes, save those bundle of cells and then walk away for everyone else to fix the rest.

Oh this! They prove it's about PUNISHMENT.

*Add your life being in danger

What are your unpopular opinions that most mumsnetters don’t agree with?
FlakyCritic · 23/05/2025 10:46

TheAmusedQuail · 23/05/2025 10:28

I disagree.

And if the GC movement thinks they are the ones to define feminism, that is moving into being dictatorial. Breath taking arrogance.

It's quite clear that you don't even understand what GC is about. GC is quintessential feminism at it's heart. It's against sexist stereotypes. That's all.

So you are commenting on something that you don't even know what it is.

If you are against sex stereotypes (or Critical of Gender stereotypes), you are GC. So do you support sex stereotypes? Yes or no? If you don't? Guess what? YOU are GC.

Blessthismess2 · 23/05/2025 10:46

TheAmusedQuail · 23/05/2025 10:11

Well, I'm a feminist and I'm not GC.

So the GC may be feminists but they certainly don't speak for all feminists.

Exactly. Of course they don’t. Most feminists are interested in a broad range of issues that affect women’s rights and equality.

GC people are focused exclusively on campaigning for policies that exclude/ deny recognition/ delegitimise trans people.

TheBlueUniform · 23/05/2025 10:46

Missey85 · 23/05/2025 09:28

Yes to this! Dress for your age nobody wants to see a 40yo squashed into a dress made for a teenager 😆

I agree with you both. I cringe when over 35’s wear stuff where you can see their midriff…. Just no. You’re not 20!

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 23/05/2025 10:47

Blessthismess2 · 23/05/2025 10:46

Exactly. Of course they don’t. Most feminists are interested in a broad range of issues that affect women’s rights and equality.

GC people are focused exclusively on campaigning for policies that exclude/ deny recognition/ delegitimise trans people.

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Women's rights, yes.

Not men pretending to be women.

Focusing on them takes the focus away from women's rights, where it belongs.

They have their own rights movement. They don't need ours as well.

FlakyCritic · 23/05/2025 10:48

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 23/05/2025 10:31

What a surprise! You can’t engage because you can’t back up anything that you say. Like all the rest.

They always run away like cowards. Especially when proven they don't even know the definition of what they are criticising.

They themselves, are GC, by their own admission.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 23/05/2025 10:50

Blessthismess2 · 23/05/2025 10:46

Exactly. Of course they don’t. Most feminists are interested in a broad range of issues that affect women’s rights and equality.

GC people are focused exclusively on campaigning for policies that exclude/ deny recognition/ delegitimise trans people.

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How have you come to that conclusion? I won’t hold my breath.

Men shouldn’t be in certain spaces and sports. It’s not difficult. Trans women aren’t excluded from going anywhere, see it as they just don’t meet the entrance criteria is some circumstances. Just like I can’t enter places and categories for 18-25 year olds despite feeling like I’m 21.

SouthLondonMum22 · 23/05/2025 10:51

Chaddi · 23/05/2025 10:13

Honestly if I knew someone that had abortion not to do with SA, not to do with any medical complications at all.... I'd definitely cut them out of my life.

You aren’t completely anti killing children then if you agree with abortion in the case of SA.

Clearly you don’t value children conceived due to SA.

FlakyCritic · 23/05/2025 10:52

Blessthismess2 · 23/05/2025 10:46

Exactly. Of course they don’t. Most feminists are interested in a broad range of issues that affect women’s rights and equality.

GC people are focused exclusively on campaigning for policies that exclude/ deny recognition/ delegitimise trans people.

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NO! We are focussed on excluding MALES from female spaces. We're fine with trans men (females) in our spaces, so are we only 50% anti trans?

It's about the battle of the sexes. Male v female. It's not about 'trans people'.

Keeping males out of spaces where rape survivors and women and girls are does NOT 'deny the legitimacy' of males. Does having a female only space 'deny the recognition' of the male sex? On the flip side, does males having male only spaces 'deny recognition' to the female sex? FFS get real!

See, you have proved you are mouthing off about something you don't even understand or know what you're talking about.

Missey85 · 23/05/2025 10:53

Chaddi · 23/05/2025 10:13

Honestly if I knew someone that had abortion not to do with SA, not to do with any medical complications at all.... I'd definitely cut them out of my life.

If that was your thinking you wouldn't be my friend to begin with! 🙁

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 23/05/2025 10:54

FlakyCritic · 23/05/2025 10:52

NO! We are focussed on excluding MALES from female spaces. We're fine with trans men (females) in our spaces, so are we only 50% anti trans?

It's about the battle of the sexes. Male v female. It's not about 'trans people'.

Keeping males out of spaces where rape survivors and women and girls are does NOT 'deny the legitimacy' of males. Does having a female only space 'deny the recognition' of the male sex? On the flip side, does males having male only spaces 'deny recognition' to the female sex? FFS get real!

See, you have proved you are mouthing off about something you don't even understand or know what you're talking about.

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Yeah, here's my unpopular opinion.

Women who aren't gender critical are not very intelligent.

ThatCyanCat · 23/05/2025 10:54

To be fair, I don't think they're cowards. It's just that they latched on to this insane ideology, that men can be women, because they were told it was progressive and made them better people. They didn't think it through and by the time they realised the full implications - that it isn't just about letting people wear and go by whatever name they want, but requires them to be affirmed everywhere by everyone, so single sex spaces can't exist but we also can't say they're not single sex - they had invested too much of themselves into it to recant. It's much more palatable to accuse everyone of being immature, uncivil or a hateful far right Nazi bigot than to have the humility to realise they made a mistake.

ThatCyanCat · 23/05/2025 10:57

Blessthismess2 · 23/05/2025 10:46

Exactly. Of course they don’t. Most feminists are interested in a broad range of issues that affect women’s rights and equality.

GC people are focused exclusively on campaigning for policies that exclude/ deny recognition/ delegitimise trans people.

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Well that's nonsense, isn't it. JKR is the queen of GC and she also funds a rape crisis centre, a charity to end institutionalisation of children and many other projects. Her Strike novels deal with all manner of aspects of feminism and social issues. Read Troubled Blood.

I know I should stop asking why you people keep saying stuff that's so demonstrably untrue...

FlakyCritic · 23/05/2025 10:57

ThatCyanCat · 23/05/2025 10:54

To be fair, I don't think they're cowards. It's just that they latched on to this insane ideology, that men can be women, because they were told it was progressive and made them better people. They didn't think it through and by the time they realised the full implications - that it isn't just about letting people wear and go by whatever name they want, but requires them to be affirmed everywhere by everyone, so single sex spaces can't exist but we also can't say they're not single sex - they had invested too much of themselves into it to recant. It's much more palatable to accuse everyone of being immature, uncivil or a hateful far right Nazi bigot than to have the humility to realise they made a mistake.

Yes, perhaps it's the sunk cost fallacy. They know deep down they were 'had', but can't admit it. Though that's for the ones that actually understand it. It's obvious there are posters on here who have absolutely no idea whatsoever what GC actually even is! They were probably told by a third hand source what it is, but have no idea.

If they knew the fact, that GC simply means fighting against sex stereotypes, nothing more nothing less - they'd put their hands up and admit they too are GC. They are GC without even knowing it. Unless they do believe in sex stereotypes.

Then there are the ones on here who think it's about excluding 'trans people'. As if 'trans people' aren't either male or female. I genuinely think they see trans as some sort of third sex or something.

Blessthismess2 · 23/05/2025 10:57

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 23/05/2025 10:50

How have you come to that conclusion? I won’t hold my breath.

Men shouldn’t be in certain spaces and sports. It’s not difficult. Trans women aren’t excluded from going anywhere, see it as they just don’t meet the entrance criteria is some circumstances. Just like I can’t enter places and categories for 18-25 year olds despite feeling like I’m 21.

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How have I come to that conclusion? By observing facts.

Most feminists are interested in a range of subjects, like abortion, treatment of women in the family courts, domestic violence, pay equality, etc...

“Gender critical feminists” - aka JKR - spend almost all their time campaigning on who gets to use which toilet , sneering about pronouns, and restricting access to hormonal therapies for treating gender dysphoria, etc. I.e. issues that primarily have the effect of restricting inclusion, safety , health, wellbeing of trans people. .

ThatCyanCat · 23/05/2025 11:00

Blessthismess2 · 23/05/2025 10:57

How have I come to that conclusion? By observing facts.

Most feminists are interested in a range of subjects, like abortion, treatment of women in the family courts, domestic violence, pay equality, etc...

“Gender critical feminists” - aka JKR - spend almost all their time campaigning on who gets to use which toilet , sneering about pronouns, and restricting access to hormonal therapies for treating gender dysphoria, etc. I.e. issues that primarily have the effect of restricting inclusion, safety , health, wellbeing of trans people. .

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By observing facts...

Stop it, you're killing me.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 23/05/2025 11:02

Blessthismess2 · 23/05/2025 10:57

How have I come to that conclusion? By observing facts.

Most feminists are interested in a range of subjects, like abortion, treatment of women in the family courts, domestic violence, pay equality, etc...

“Gender critical feminists” - aka JKR - spend almost all their time campaigning on who gets to use which toilet , sneering about pronouns, and restricting access to hormonal therapies for treating gender dysphoria, etc. I.e. issues that primarily have the effect of restricting inclusion, safety , health, wellbeing of trans people. .

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Here’s the wild thing about intelligent women, you can care about those things, and want to retain single sex spaces which are vital for many, all at the same time! Wooo!

JKR who has funded a rape crisis centre and helped women out of Afghanistan and has been a victim of domestic violence herself only cares about pronouns and toilets? Really? What a bitch. It’s not just about toilets like you make it out to be. If you understand and have observed basic fact you’d know that men can’t become women, and women can’t become men, no matter how many hormones you take.

Do you care about the lasting negative effects hormone can have on a person? Or does affirmation override all that in the name of ideology.

FlakyCritic · 23/05/2025 11:02

Blessthismess2 · 23/05/2025 10:57

How have I come to that conclusion? By observing facts.

Most feminists are interested in a range of subjects, like abortion, treatment of women in the family courts, domestic violence, pay equality, etc...

“Gender critical feminists” - aka JKR - spend almost all their time campaigning on who gets to use which toilet , sneering about pronouns, and restricting access to hormonal therapies for treating gender dysphoria, etc. I.e. issues that primarily have the effect of restricting inclusion, safety , health, wellbeing of trans people. .

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I don't know what you've been observing, that it ain't facts!

You know there are GC people that are 'pro trans'? Oh, that's right, you didn't know that. Because you don't even know what 'GC' means or even the first thing about it. You're that ill-informed.

There are GC people that are anti-JK and pro-trans having gender affirming healthcare.

Guess what? Being GC has nothing even remotely to do with pro or anti trans. Many GC women are pro trans rights.

The two are not synonymous.

See, this is why there is so much IGNORANCE on this topic. People like you have no f'ing clue what GC even means! You couldn't even give the definition if asked the final question for a million pounds.

Blessthismess2 · 23/05/2025 11:03

FlakyCritic · 23/05/2025 11:02

I don't know what you've been observing, that it ain't facts!

You know there are GC people that are 'pro trans'? Oh, that's right, you didn't know that. Because you don't even know what 'GC' means or even the first thing about it. You're that ill-informed.

There are GC people that are anti-JK and pro-trans having gender affirming healthcare.

Guess what? Being GC has nothing even remotely to do with pro or anti trans. Many GC women are pro trans rights.

The two are not synonymous.

See, this is why there is so much IGNORANCE on this topic. People like you have no f'ing clue what GC even means! You couldn't even give the definition if asked the final question for a million pounds.

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You know there are GC people that are 'pro trans'?

😂 well that’s certainly and creative and new variety of gaslighting.

FlakyCritic · 23/05/2025 11:05

Blessthismess2 · 23/05/2025 11:03

You know there are GC people that are 'pro trans'?

😂 well that’s certainly and creative and new variety of gaslighting.

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And there you go with your ignorance! Just do a google search. Go on social media. It's a FACT that there are GC people who are 'pro-trans'.

This clearly is news to you, but it shows how deeply and utterly ignorant and ill-informed you are on this issue. You genuinely had no idea, did you? Completely ignorant. You're mouthing off on something you don't even understand. And embarrassing yourself.

ThatCyanCat · 23/05/2025 11:05

Blessthismess2 · 23/05/2025 11:03

You know there are GC people that are 'pro trans'?

😂 well that’s certainly and creative and new variety of gaslighting.

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Gaslighting...observing facts...

All while trying to force everyone to accept that men are women or else you're a far right hateful bigot who's obsessed with toilets and nothing else.

Blessthismess2 · 23/05/2025 11:05

FlakyCritic · 23/05/2025 11:05

And there you go with your ignorance! Just do a google search. Go on social media. It's a FACT that there are GC people who are 'pro-trans'.

This clearly is news to you, but it shows how deeply and utterly ignorant and ill-informed you are on this issue. You genuinely had no idea, did you? Completely ignorant. You're mouthing off on something you don't even understand. And embarrassing yourself.

Ok 😂

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 23/05/2025 11:05

Blessthismess2 · 23/05/2025 11:03

You know there are GC people that are 'pro trans'?

😂 well that’s certainly and creative and new variety of gaslighting.

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But insisting to others that men can become women and should be allowed in their spaces and sports isn’t gaslighting in its finest form?!! 😂

ThatCyanCat · 23/05/2025 11:05

Blessthismess2 · 23/05/2025 11:05

Ok 😂

Good, solid answer!

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 23/05/2025 11:06

Blessthismess2 · 23/05/2025 10:57

How have I come to that conclusion? By observing facts.

Most feminists are interested in a range of subjects, like abortion, treatment of women in the family courts, domestic violence, pay equality, etc...

“Gender critical feminists” - aka JKR - spend almost all their time campaigning on who gets to use which toilet , sneering about pronouns, and restricting access to hormonal therapies for treating gender dysphoria, etc. I.e. issues that primarily have the effect of restricting inclusion, safety , health, wellbeing of trans people. .

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You clearly have very limited knowledge of what JK Rowling is interested in. (Or any of the rest of us, come to that.)

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