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What are your unpopular opinions that most mumsnetters don’t agree with?

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Rosebush1245 · 21/05/2025 20:01

Curious to know what opinions you see constantly on mumsnet that you think “Am I the only person that disagrees with that!?”

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Arraminta · 23/05/2025 10:17

That breast feeding really isn't all that, and certainly not as necessary as people believe. I was bullied into feeding DD1 and hated it. So refused to do it with DD2. She still went on to pass the 11+ with a top score and got 3 A* at A Level.

ExercicenformedeZ · 23/05/2025 10:19

Chaddi · 23/05/2025 10:13

Honestly if I knew someone that had abortion not to do with SA, not to do with any medical complications at all.... I'd definitely cut them out of my life.

I'm sure that they wouldn't miss you. You are free to have whatever opinions you wish. Fortunately, you aren't free to legislate against abortion.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 23/05/2025 10:19

Blessthismess2 · 23/05/2025 09:52

The only people who feel threatened by it are men who want everyone to pretend they are women.

which is simply your transphobic way of describing trans women.
(oh btw your policies also seriously hurt trans men but don’t let that trouble you).

And they tend to respond by making death threats towards us and proving our point about not wanting them in women's spaces.

this is the equivalent statement of saying, for example, that Muslim people tend to respond to islamaphobia by blowing things up. Obviously disgraceful and not worthy of being taken remotely seriously.

It's not transphobic not to believe that trans women are women, any more than it is Islamophobic not to worship Allah.

They are entitled to have their beliefs, and to have protection from discrimination.

So am I. And I cannot be forced to share their beliefs, or pretend to share them.

The trans people who threaten women aren't "responding to transphobia". They are having angry tantrums because women said no.

ThatCyanCat · 23/05/2025 10:23

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 23/05/2025 10:16

I think if you're referring to women who believe that female people exist and deserve to have sex based rights as "the GC", it is vanishingly unlikely that you are a feminist.

Feminism is, at its heart, inherently gender critical.

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Nobody who thinks women don't actually exist as a sex class and should be forced to share intimate spaces with men or be excluded, and then tries to silence them by telling them they're not "civil" or "adult", is a feminist. It's absolutely risible.

Once you have decided that a man is a woman, you've peaked in absurdity and dishonest use of language and everything you say afterwards can be viewed accordingly. If a man can be a woman, a feminist can be a person who puts male wants over female needs and stand alongside a movement that makes rape and death threats daily but accuses women of incivility. It's laughable and, like their unending accusations of hate, bigotry and everything else, absolutely meaningless. Topsoil gumdrop accent mauve.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 23/05/2025 10:24

TheAmusedQuail · 23/05/2025 09:44

While I disagree with the GC and their belief system, I actively dislike the link between feminists and being a man hater.

Wanting equality is nothing to do with hating men.

What belief system? I don’t believe 2+2=4. It just is. Even if someone believes 2+2=5. Believe that if you like, it’s not fact.

It’s like coining a term for people who understand the world is round. Flat earthers will believe otherwise, but it isn’t.

SleepingStandingUp · 23/05/2025 10:26

Chaddi · 23/05/2025 10:13

Honestly if I knew someone that had abortion not to do with SA, not to do with any medical complications at all.... I'd definitely cut them out of my life.

I can't help but think that people who advocate against all abortion bar a few tight restrictions, it's less about the bundle of cells and more about their saviour complex.

There's many situations where consensual sex leading to unplanned pregnancy doesn't mean parenthood is the best choice, or that the child will have a decent life.

But yes, save those bundle of cells and then walk away for everyone else to fix the rest.

TheAmusedQuail · 23/05/2025 10:28

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 23/05/2025 10:16

I think if you're referring to women who believe that female people exist and deserve to have sex based rights as "the GC", it is vanishingly unlikely that you are a feminist.

Feminism is, at its heart, inherently gender critical.

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I disagree.

And if the GC movement thinks they are the ones to define feminism, that is moving into being dictatorial. Breath taking arrogance.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 23/05/2025 10:28

My unpopular opinion is that people who want to have a large family, or even more than two children, should think more carefully if they can afford to raise said children in the event of death or divorce/relationship breakdown which aren’t new phenomenon’s before proceeding.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 23/05/2025 10:28

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 23/05/2025 10:24

What belief system? I don’t believe 2+2=4. It just is. Even if someone believes 2+2=5. Believe that if you like, it’s not fact.

It’s like coining a term for people who understand the world is round. Flat earthers will believe otherwise, but it isn’t.

"Humans can't change sex and sometimes sex matters" = belief system.

"Everyone has a gender identity and most people's gender identity matches their genitalia but some people's doesn't, and if your identity matches your genitalia you are cis and if it doesn't you are trans and it is your identity which determines whether you are a man or a woman, not your genitalia, and no I can't describe this identity or explain what gender means, Google it" = not a belief system.

Aye, right you are.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 23/05/2025 10:28

TheAmusedQuail · 23/05/2025 10:28

I disagree.

And if the GC movement thinks they are the ones to define feminism, that is moving into being dictatorial. Breath taking arrogance.

Do you know what being GC means?

TheAmusedQuail · 23/05/2025 10:30

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 23/05/2025 10:28

Do you know what being GC means?

I am not engaging with GC issues anymore. I disagree with you and frankly, the negativity is draining.

I respect your POV but I don't wish to engage.

AndImBrit · 23/05/2025 10:31

There is rarely a good reason to leave a father off a birth certificate if you know who he is.

FlakyCritic · 23/05/2025 10:31

TheAmusedQuail · 23/05/2025 09:44

While I disagree with the GC and their belief system, I actively dislike the link between feminists and being a man hater.

Wanting equality is nothing to do with hating men.

The 'GC' 'belief system' is nothing more than being Critical of Gender (or sex) stereotypes. Nothing more, nothing less. If you disagree with that, you are actively saying you agree with sex and gender stereotypes.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 23/05/2025 10:31

TheAmusedQuail · 23/05/2025 10:28

I disagree.

And if the GC movement thinks they are the ones to define feminism, that is moving into being dictatorial. Breath taking arrogance.

Gender critical means what it says on the tin: critical of gender.

Feminists have spent generations trying to liberate women from gender stereotypes imposed on them by society due to their sex, and fight against women's sex based oppression.

And then some men come along and say, "I like to wear dresses and lipstick and that makes me a woman, and not only am I a woman, I am more oppressed than all other women, and by the way, there's really no such thing as biological sex and if you think there is you're a bigot", and you go, "Yeah, seems legit."

I mean, really.

Feminism is for and about female people. The clue is in the word.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 23/05/2025 10:31

TheAmusedQuail · 23/05/2025 10:30

I am not engaging with GC issues anymore. I disagree with you and frankly, the negativity is draining.

I respect your POV but I don't wish to engage.

What a surprise! You can’t engage because you can’t back up anything that you say. Like all the rest.

TheAmusedQuail · 23/05/2025 10:33

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 23/05/2025 10:31

What a surprise! You can’t engage because you can’t back up anything that you say. Like all the rest.

If that is your opinion, fine. 🙄

AndImBrit · 23/05/2025 10:34

Arraminta · 23/05/2025 10:17

That breast feeding really isn't all that, and certainly not as necessary as people believe. I was bullied into feeding DD1 and hated it. So refused to do it with DD2. She still went on to pass the 11+ with a top score and got 3 A* at A Level.

I’ve said to many friends struggling with breast feeding:

”Think of five adults you know, and tell me whether you think they were breast fed or not”.

It’s impossible to do this with any degree of accuracy.

It really highlights the fact that in the grand scheme of things, it doesn’t actually matter.

ThatCyanCat · 23/05/2025 10:34

TheAmusedQuail · 23/05/2025 10:28

I disagree.

And if the GC movement thinks they are the ones to define feminism, that is moving into being dictatorial. Breath taking arrogance.

You try to force women to undress with men, be locked up with them, compete with them in sports, all while being forbidden from saying that they're men, and you accuse others of being dictatorial and arrogant.

Sal Grover is right. Everything these people say, the opposite is true. They're O'Brien on steroids.

FlakyCritic · 23/05/2025 10:34

Blessthismess2 · 23/05/2025 09:46

None of what GCs focus campaigning on has any detrimental effects on (non trans) men whatsoever. The only people it hurts are trans people.

Not true. Being GC has nothing remotely to do with 'trans' per se. It's about not agreeing with Gender Stereotypes enforced on us by the male sex. That's all.

What are your unpopular opinions that most mumsnetters don’t agree with?
FlakyCritic · 23/05/2025 10:36

Blessthismess2 · 23/05/2025 09:52

The only people who feel threatened by it are men who want everyone to pretend they are women.

which is simply your transphobic way of describing trans women.
(oh btw your policies also seriously hurt trans men but don’t let that trouble you).

And they tend to respond by making death threats towards us and proving our point about not wanting them in women's spaces.

this is the equivalent statement of saying, for example, that Muslim people tend to respond to islamaphobia by blowing things up. Obviously disgraceful and not worthy of being taken remotely seriously.

If saying males are males is 'twansphobic', then that makes you femphobic and misogynistic. Transwomen are males with penis and testicles. That's a fact. I think you're confused about what a transwoman actually is.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 23/05/2025 10:36

FlakyCritic · 23/05/2025 10:34

Not true. Being GC has nothing remotely to do with 'trans' per se. It's about not agreeing with Gender Stereotypes enforced on us by the male sex. That's all.

I don't think the doing the dishes part is what they are identifying with.

FlakyCritic · 23/05/2025 10:38

TheAmusedQuail · 23/05/2025 10:11

Well, I'm a feminist and I'm not GC.

So the GC may be feminists but they certainly don't speak for all feminists.

If you're not GC (which means Critical of Gender stereotypes), then you are not even remotely feminist! Feminists are against stereotypes. Not in favour of them.

SouthLondonMum22 · 23/05/2025 10:39

Chaddi · 23/05/2025 10:15

I'm also anti giving people the choice to kill children outside of the womb if raising them is too tough

An embryo is a potential child. It’s nothing like killing an actual child which is why one is legal and one is illegal.

FlakyCritic · 23/05/2025 10:40

Chaddi · 23/05/2025 10:13

Honestly if I knew someone that had abortion not to do with SA, not to do with any medical complications at all.... I'd definitely cut them out of my life.

Likewise I would not associate with anyone who is anti-choice and pro-gestational slavery. That attitude is unacceptable in 2025. Your dangerous and abhorrent attitude belongs in the 1800s. Anyone who is pro-gestational slavery in 2025 should be isolated from the rest of civilised society permanently.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 23/05/2025 10:41

TheAmusedQuail · 23/05/2025 10:33

If that is your opinion, fine. 🙄

An opinion formed from experience. Gender is a made up concept, based on regressive sex stereotypes. As said, being GC is critical of this. Explain how this is a bad thing. If males feel their best authentic selves presenting as what they see as ‘being a woman’ and it’s usually in the form of dress, make up etc, then great. But it doesn’t mean you are now a woman. I don’t wear dresses or high heels. It’s also cherry picking the parts of ‘womanhood’ that’s nice. You wouldn’t choose painful periods, pay discrimination and all the other shit that comes with being a woman.

The day someone gives an intelligent, reasoned, backed up with evidence answer to the usual ‘you’re all big hateful transphobes’ (I know you didn’t explicitly say this) I’ll change bloody sex myself.

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