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What are your unpopular opinions that most mumsnetters don’t agree with?

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Rosebush1245 · 21/05/2025 20:01

Curious to know what opinions you see constantly on mumsnet that you think “Am I the only person that disagrees with that!?”

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JohnTheRevelator · 22/05/2025 23:36

I think it's normal to reserve a table in a cafe or coffee shop before ordering. I know this is a highly unpopular opinion on Mumsnet but as a disabled person,I'm not going to order my food and drink before making sure there is actually somewhere for me to sit first! I really don't want to be standing waiting for however long it takes a table to become free (which in my opinion,is usually never if you're waiting!)

NattyTurtle59 · 22/05/2025 23:36

Seymour5 · 22/05/2025 19:04

Met DH at 16, married at 21, had our Golden Wedding a few years ago. He’s currently washing up after cooking tea for both of us whilst I was cutting back in the garden. Brings me tea in bed most mornings. He’s not perfect, but neither am I, and our interests are very different.

We share money, chores, but don't live in each other’s pockets. And our DC still speak to us. I can’t be the only one to have married young to a decent man?

You're not. Some of my friends got married young - as was the norm in those days - and have very happy stable marriages. One got married at 17 (her husband was 18), and had just turned 18 when her first child was born.

FlakyCritic · 22/05/2025 23:37

bananastraightener · 22/05/2025 23:35

@FlakyCritic Ok, I'll bite. You don't have the monopoly on being a rape survivor, supporting trans people and being a rape survivor are not mutually exclusive things. And trans people also suffer rape.

Anyway let's not derail the thread, I'd like to see what funny things people continue to post. We've both made our points.

Edited

It's not about 'trans people'. It's about males. And not having males in female spaces. Do you understand that, at least?

harrogatemumofone · 22/05/2025 23:38

That is actually easier to make friends down South, compared to up North, when new to an area.

FlakyCritic · 22/05/2025 23:41

JohnTheRevelator · 22/05/2025 23:36

I think it's normal to reserve a table in a cafe or coffee shop before ordering. I know this is a highly unpopular opinion on Mumsnet but as a disabled person,I'm not going to order my food and drink before making sure there is actually somewhere for me to sit first! I really don't want to be standing waiting for however long it takes a table to become free (which in my opinion,is usually never if you're waiting!)

That makes sense.

bananastraightener · 22/05/2025 23:42

harrogatemumofone · 22/05/2025 23:38

That is actually easier to make friends down South, compared to up North, when new to an area.

@harrogatemumofone Yes! I live in the North and overall I find it quite unfriendly and insular although I've made friends here.

It was much easier to make friends when I lived in London, although I think that's also cities vs smaller places.

NattyTurtle59 · 22/05/2025 23:57

Tallyrand · 22/05/2025 23:07

Maybe if landlords weren't buying up portfilios, prices would be reasonable and people like you could have bought.

You almost seem happy to be a rent slave for the rest of your life, so I'll just leave it there.

You have no idea what you are talking about. I have been a home owner in the past, but a separation just at the time houses were beginning their ridiculous rises put paid to that. House prices would have to halve for me to be able to buy now, and that is never going to happen.

I don't actually want to buy now (well, not unless I win a large sum of money). People seem to forget that it's not just having a deposit and paying a mortgage, it's the insurance, rates (I'm not in the UK, only property owners pay those), repairs and maintenance. In my last flat there were some huge plumbing issues which would have had me despairing about paying for. My current flat had a leak which required the bath being removed and a shower (and new vanity) being installed - once again, how would I have paid for that?

I have friends who owned rental properties. They recently sold the last one - they would have liked to have sold earlier but didn't want to ask their tenants to move out. However the tenants did move out - and bought their own place, so it can be done, in spite of the "evil" landlords!

Cattenberg · 23/05/2025 00:08

bananastraightener · 22/05/2025 23:13

@FlakyCriticDo I look like I care?

YouGov polls and your other evidence is hardly convincing. You sound completely unhinged and like you're frothing at the mouth. The British Medical Association has even denounced the judgement and science does not back you up, I'm afraid.

I like to read the sex and gender threads sometimes and laugh away to myself. What bitter, hateful people you are, and you're also weirdos. People's genitals are living rent free in your head. That's not normal.

I am never going to stop supporting the rights of trans people to live as their chosen gender. And this is an unpopular opinion thread. Your opinion is popular on MN and you have a whole board to circlejerk with your buddies. Mines unpopular and that is ok. We aren't going to agree, stop trying to convince me.

I joined MN in 2017. I was so annoyed (and bemused) by the feminist board's focus on trans people, changing rooms and 'things that never happened' that I intended to complain to MNHQ.

Very gradually, over the next three years or so, I changed my mind to a large extent. I don't think I'm bitter or hateful. But once you've seen the thick streak of misogyny running through the trans rights movement, you can't unsee it. The lovely ladies on Twitter who threatened to punch TERFS, kill TERFs and choke JKR with their lady dicks were merely the first examples I saw.

Are these individuals representative of trans people in general? No, of course not. Many trans people just want to get on with their lives and would hate to make anyone else feel uncomfortable or unsafe. But the misogynistic minority (who include many allies who aren't trans themselves) have fought hard to silence the women who disagree with them and had notable successes in law and in practice. I think that's wrong.

DBSFstupid · 23/05/2025 00:15

sprigatito · 21/05/2025 21:58

I think childfree weddings are tacky and narcissistic.

I think mass, poor quality childcare for very young children is a ticking time bomb and is driving the crisis in child mental health

I think it’s really fucking weird that as a society we cherish and idolise children until they hit their teens, then suddenly turn on them and treat them like the enemy. Seeing MNers tell each other to throw out/cut off their distressed and vulnerable young adult children disgusts me.

I had this done to me at 17. I have never got over it. I have just about managed to lead a successful life in some ways and I have overcome huge obstacles but it is in spite of, not because of, what happened to me.

MissConductUS · 23/05/2025 00:20

That Americans are generally very nice, and just as smart and well educated as Brits.

DBSFstupid · 23/05/2025 00:57

MissConductUS · 23/05/2025 00:20

That Americans are generally very nice, and just as smart and well educated as Brits.

In spades.

Jem96 · 23/05/2025 01:03

Nobody needs to have four children. Three is more than enough.

ButteredRadish · 23/05/2025 01:16

FloraBotticelli · 21/05/2025 20:29

That women should be responsible for their own relationships and decisions with their MIL and not hide behind DH to manage it for them.

I agree 100%

Natsku · 23/05/2025 04:21

ruethewhirl · 22/05/2025 16:56

Personally I think 16 would be better, but couldn't agree more re technical/vocational colleges. Everyone's expected to aspire to uni now and it isn't a one-size-fits-all situation.

I also think giving polytechnics university status was sheer lunacy. I'm broadly a Labour voter but was very disappointed by that and the reintroduction of tuition fees.

Around 16 is good but I think GCSEs should be got rid of. Keep a general education until 16 then specialise afterwards - vocational for those inclined that way, academic for those inclined that way, and a dual option for those who are really motivated.

blackpear · 23/05/2025 05:07

I would rather hear someone watching a video on their phones without ear phones in than have to hear peoples' loud, inane conversations. Honestly doesn't bother me at all and I'm always surprised at how angry people get. I accept I'm in the minority though.

YankSplaining · 23/05/2025 05:28

Provided everyone is an adult, “power dynamics” in relationships are less related to age and more related to the personalities of the people involved.

Nine and ten are normal ages to start thinking more about the topic of sex - not about personally having sex, but about the topic in the abstract. Especially if kids are going through puberty on the earlier side.

It makes more sense to give gifts to new parents before the baby is born than it does to wait until after the baby is born.

Anything married women decide to do with their last names is fine.

PassOnThat · 23/05/2025 07:16

Jem96 · 23/05/2025 01:03

Nobody needs to have four children. Three is more than enough.

Why three? Why not just one?

Tallyrand · 23/05/2025 07:28

NattyTurtle59 · 22/05/2025 23:57

You have no idea what you are talking about. I have been a home owner in the past, but a separation just at the time houses were beginning their ridiculous rises put paid to that. House prices would have to halve for me to be able to buy now, and that is never going to happen.

I don't actually want to buy now (well, not unless I win a large sum of money). People seem to forget that it's not just having a deposit and paying a mortgage, it's the insurance, rates (I'm not in the UK, only property owners pay those), repairs and maintenance. In my last flat there were some huge plumbing issues which would have had me despairing about paying for. My current flat had a leak which required the bath being removed and a shower (and new vanity) being installed - once again, how would I have paid for that?

I have friends who owned rental properties. They recently sold the last one - they would have liked to have sold earlier but didn't want to ask their tenants to move out. However the tenants did move out - and bought their own place, so it can be done, in spite of the "evil" landlords!

See you are living up to the spirit of the thread!

Rent money is dead money. You are paying someone else's mortgage or funding their lifestyle/pension. They aren't doing it for the goodness of their hearts, regardless of any anecdotes you have about your friends.

I have no problem with the capitalist principle of making profit, but I draw the line at making profit off of the most basic human necessity of shelter.

StarlightLady · 23/05/2025 07:31

Sex on a first date can be a good thing.

Tallyrand · 23/05/2025 07:32

Cattenberg · 22/05/2025 23:16

A couple of my colleagues have no choice but to rent, even though it costs them more per month than a mortgage on a similar property would. They can't buy because they don't have enough saved for a deposit.

So the government should regulate lenders that if someone can demonstrate say 12 months of rent payments and full bank statements, pass all the affordability etc that they are eligible for 100% mortgages at say 3x joint salary or 4x individual salary.

Enough to get renters off the cycle of renting (if they want), but not enough to create another property bubble.

Sunshineandblueskysalltheway · 23/05/2025 07:36

Ruggerlass · 21/05/2025 21:40

My main one is very contentious and not a situation I’ve ever been in. I’m pro choice but only in certain scenarios. I know contraception can fail, however the amount of women on here seeking abortions for unplanned pregnancies astounds me.

Edited

You support forced birth as a punishment for "unplanned pregnancy"?

ThejoyofNC · 23/05/2025 07:38

Sunshineandblueskysalltheway · 23/05/2025 07:36

You support forced birth as a punishment for "unplanned pregnancy"?

I can't speak for that poster but I certainly do.

DeborahVancesBeehive · 23/05/2025 07:45

SpottedDonkey · 21/05/2025 21:55

The Labour government have made some mistakes (eg winter fuel) and there are issues on which they need to be going further, faster (eg partnership with the EU) but overall they are doing a decent job in starting to clear up the disastrous mess the Tories created.

Unless they can actually sort out immigration, however, nothing else will matter in 2029 and Reform will win the next election by a landslide.

Do you realise that migration has dropped by half due to the last governments policies?

Daffodilsarefading · 23/05/2025 07:48

That women ( and men) who haven’t had to work full time in a stressful job whilst going through the menopause can fuck off.
Stop criticising women who have bad symptoms whilst having to deal with a full time demanding job. Often face to face with the public or other colleagues.
Well done you for not having any symptoms and sailing through it. All the while whilst being able to sit on your arse in the comfort of your own home, doing fuck all.
Some of us don’t have that luxury. Some women have to chair important meetings, dressed in professional clothing whilst suffering from menopausal brain fog and sweating to death.
Be thankful you didn’t have to work until you are 67.

Sharptonguedwoman · 23/05/2025 07:56

ImFineItsAllFine · 21/05/2025 21:17

I have a toilet brush for each toilet and unlike most of MN I firmly believe that's less gross than sticking you hand down the loo (even with gloves on) to clean below the water line.

I'm not married to my DCs father. By choice.

My DC have their fathers surname. I'm perfectly fine with that. Outside of MN I've never once come across DC having their mothers surname if their parents aren't married.

Meet my daughter.

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