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What are your unpopular opinions that most mumsnetters don’t agree with?

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Rosebush1245 · 21/05/2025 20:01

Curious to know what opinions you see constantly on mumsnet that you think “Am I the only person that disagrees with that!?”

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ThatCyanCat · 22/05/2025 16:36

sorryidisagree · 22/05/2025 16:32

That instituting "checks" on biological gender is going to be an absolute nightmare for everyone, is not going to make female-only spaces safer and will only serve to piss everybody off.

It wouldn't piss me off. We managed it just fine for centuries, especially when there were rules about excluding women from voting, getting loans or education; no reason it should suddenly become an impossibility when it's rules about keeping men out of women's changing rooms and rape support centres. If paperwork is needed, we can simply make it a rule that the sex observed at birth and recorded on the birth certificate is not to be changed and then that can be easily referenced where necessary; no need for anything difficult or intrusive.

blacksantanapkin · 22/05/2025 16:38

Too many use the term ‘narcissist’ for people who are just generally unpleasant or selfish. Full-blown NPD traits are terrifying and don’t apply to most people however awful they are .

FlakyCritic · 22/05/2025 16:39

ThatCyanCat · 22/05/2025 16:36

It wouldn't piss me off. We managed it just fine for centuries, especially when there were rules about excluding women from voting, getting loans or education; no reason it should suddenly become an impossibility when it's rules about keeping men out of women's changing rooms and rape support centres. If paperwork is needed, we can simply make it a rule that the sex observed at birth and recorded on the birth certificate is not to be changed and then that can be easily referenced where necessary; no need for anything difficult or intrusive.

Yep, it's like people think time didn't exist prior to 10 years ago. As someone who was a child in the 80s and a teen in the 90s and working in the 20s, and we would call the police if a male was hanging around female spaces, I think it must be newborns complaining who don't remember how simple life was until now. Everything, including life, is so darn 'complicated' and 'complex'. How the hell did we all survive til now?

FKAT · 22/05/2025 16:40

sorryidisagree · 22/05/2025 16:32

That instituting "checks" on biological gender is going to be an absolute nightmare for everyone, is not going to make female-only spaces safer and will only serve to piss everybody off.

Luckily that's never going to happen so you can put away your smelling salts.
We can tell who is male and who is female by looking.

MarySueSaidBoo · 22/05/2025 16:43

DH's Mum died when he was 16. I'm absolutely devastated not to have met her or have her in our lives. She'd be so proud of him, he was her youngest and she really pushed him to be the best version of himself until she got cancer. I don't get the MIL hate that's on here, for anyone with a son that'll be you one day!

People who think that gentle parenting is a "thing". No, you're just lazy and one day society isn't going to be kind on the offspring you've failed to raise.

ThatCyanCat · 22/05/2025 16:44

Besides, once you know it's against the law, and that the people of the opposite sex don't want you in there, and that it is a safeguarding measure, why would you then force your way in if you're a decent human and not a criminal and a creep?

FlakyCritic · 22/05/2025 16:47

MarySueSaidBoo · 22/05/2025 16:43

DH's Mum died when he was 16. I'm absolutely devastated not to have met her or have her in our lives. She'd be so proud of him, he was her youngest and she really pushed him to be the best version of himself until she got cancer. I don't get the MIL hate that's on here, for anyone with a son that'll be you one day!

People who think that gentle parenting is a "thing". No, you're just lazy and one day society isn't going to be kind on the offspring you've failed to raise.

You can't understand because you've been lucky enough to never experience having an abusive mother in law so you have no empathy. You are looking at it with wistful rose coloured glasses. You have no idea how your MIL would have turned out. Maybe stop and have some empathy for women who have had their lives and marriages destroyed by a horrible MIL.

mathanxiety · 22/05/2025 16:48

School uniforms - I have seen with my own eyes that they are completely unnecessary.

Wedding and baby showers are nice, positive events.

All things American are not by definition bad or a threat.

Early specialising in education is a problem.

Your dog is not your fur baby and should always be on a lead if you go outdoors with him.

Cats can flourish indoors and do not need to be let loose on the local wildlife and bird populations in order to be healthy in mind and body.

Dryers are a Good Thing And in a damp climate it is ridiculous that people don't have them.

Everyone should learn to drive.

The UK gets null points in Eurovision because of the songs.

Childfree wedding are a sign the bride and groom are seriously up themselves.

IchBinPapst · 22/05/2025 16:51

I don’t agree that if someone has eaten something - anything - its wrong.

I think its OK to have reservations about Mounjaro etc.

I think childfree weddings are lovely.

I think school uniform is a good thing.

FairPlayer274 · 22/05/2025 16:51

User867463 · 22/05/2025 15:55

Women who got married & had children very young (late teens-early 20s) and gush about their husbands being their "best friend", "soulmate" or "love of their life" are actually victims of early life trauma and cripplingly low self esteem. They brainwash themselves into believing that they have their happy ending and will defend their partner to death regardless of how lazy, useless or abusive he actually is.

Surely you realizing you’re generalizing a lot here?

Chaddi · 22/05/2025 16:54

SwingTheMonkey · 22/05/2025 15:52

You absolutely don’t. You don’t care about children who might be raised in an abusive or neglectful home because they were the result of an unwanted pregnancy and you don’t care about the thousands of children already in care in awful situations - you’d like to add to that number. Honestly, saying you believe in birth above all else, above a living, breathing child’s quality of life is one of the sickest things I’ve heard.

If someone alive is currently and having a bad quality of life. We try and help improve their quality of life. We don't euthanise them.

The homeless are having a really bad time, we don't shoot them in the head to put them out of their misery.

mathanxiety · 22/05/2025 16:56

Livpool · 22/05/2025 16:15

i agree with all these!

You always see people on here planning to ban visits with their newborn for about a month. Just why??

Maybe the women doing the banning knows only too well the people they are trying to avoid?

Not everyone visiting a newborn and the new mother is polite, pleasant, nice, or good company.

ruethewhirl · 22/05/2025 16:56

Arraminta · 22/05/2025 15:49

That for a large swathe of teenagers, staying in school past the age of 14 is educationally pointless. The government should re-introduce technical/vocational colleges for these teens.

Personally I think 16 would be better, but couldn't agree more re technical/vocational colleges. Everyone's expected to aspire to uni now and it isn't a one-size-fits-all situation.

I also think giving polytechnics university status was sheer lunacy. I'm broadly a Labour voter but was very disappointed by that and the reintroduction of tuition fees.

SouthLondonMum22 · 22/05/2025 16:59

Chaddi · 22/05/2025 16:54

If someone alive is currently and having a bad quality of life. We try and help improve their quality of life. We don't euthanise them.

The homeless are having a really bad time, we don't shoot them in the head to put them out of their misery.

If someone is alive currently is your clue. An embryo isn’t the same as an actual human being who exists outside of someone else’s body.

CoffeeCantata · 22/05/2025 17:15

DickAhOn · 22/05/2025 15:19

You might find that an aging population is the main factor that drives increasing healthcare costs. Maybe the NHS isn't the right model for an aging society but it's not because people go to the GP for anxiety.

I agree, but my point is that we need the govt to wag a finger at us and start getting us to be more realistic generally about what we should expect the NHS to do.

I suppose it's the problem of democracy - governments don't want to tell/deliver hard truths because they want to get re-elected!

MarkingBad · 22/05/2025 17:21

ruethewhirl · 22/05/2025 16:56

Personally I think 16 would be better, but couldn't agree more re technical/vocational colleges. Everyone's expected to aspire to uni now and it isn't a one-size-fits-all situation.

I also think giving polytechnics university status was sheer lunacy. I'm broadly a Labour voter but was very disappointed by that and the reintroduction of tuition fees.

I was absolutely ready to leave school at 14 I was bored to death and would have jumped at the chance to go to technical college, I've always felt this way. At 16 I did go on to a YTS (showing my age) and a technical college so I did get there eventually but could just have easily cut out all the non-useful compulsary subjects and finished GCSEs while learning the career I was interested in.

When in the industry I'd often have work experience, youth volunteers etc and pretty much all of them would have been better off going to a polytechnic rather than ploughing on with a school system that didn't suit them.

Incidentally I did very well at school, went to nightschool for A levels and further education for higher quals after. I was very happy to not go on to sixth form and did A levels and night school. I went to university after I'd managed to wash the whole poor school system out of my hair. Sometimes mid-teens are ready to move on and do something that makes sense to them rather than sit in a classroom not enjoying learning day in day out.

CoffeeCantata · 22/05/2025 17:22

ruethewhirl · 22/05/2025 16:20

Fair comment, I read the beginning of your post a bit too quickly. But I do disagree that we should be 'grateful' for the NHS, for the very reason that we do all pay into it. Glad, appreciative, thankful to be in a country that has a public healthcare system and not a shitshow system like the US has? - absolutely. But 'grateful', to me anyway, implies some sort of forelock-tugging obsequiousness which tbh some clinicians seem to be starting to expect, and it's eroding our rights as users of the service imo. The system is under massive stress and I agree with you that certain things can't or shouldn't reasonably be asked of it, but I do feel we are slowly being browbeaten into thinking we aren't entitled to question, push or complain because 'gratitude'. And that can be disastrous for people's outcomes where serious illness is concerned.

I know what you mean, but we're getting into semantics here!

I'm taking a historical perspective - for example, we happen (in this country) to be lucky enough to live at a time when we can turn on a tap and get hot water - we don't have to walk down to the stream with a bucket, chop firewood and strike two flints together to light a fire to heat it etc etc.

Similarly we are lucky to live in a place and time when we have the NHS. Yes, I know we pay for it (those of us who pay taxes) and I'm happy to do so. I just fear that it's not sustainable with current expectations.If we can't increase funding (and there's a lot more wrong with it than funding...) then we must reduce our expectations. And the mental health crisis is one area which is going to prove this - it was never designed to deal with people's long-term MH issues.

Arraminta · 22/05/2025 17:23

That human beings are fundamentally very visual creatures, and that the overwhelming majority absolutely do judge on appearances.

JHound · 22/05/2025 17:33

Tryonemoretime · 22/05/2025 15:44

I'm not quite sure where to start with this...
Hospital treatment for severe anorexia involves force feeding in hospital.
Most people would definitely restrain someone who was about to jump off a cliff.
And many people disagree with euthanasia.
In some cases, restricting an abortion may result in harm to a woman, but allowing an abortion definitely results in the death of a baby and may also harm a woman.

  1. Hospital treatment that happens in very severe cases and is in court due to controversy?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/03/16/nhs-forcing-feeding-coma-girl-patients-draconian-treatment/

  1. I did not say we would not try to assist a teenager in the moment but that we would not continue to restrain them long after they were away from the cliff

But my main point is neither of these examples work as in both you are preventing an individual from harming themself.

In terms of forcing a woman to remain in a state of pregnancy her will you are causing harm to her on behalf of somebody else.

I don’t think women should have less bodily autonomy than corpses and the women’s rights to her own body should always trumps those that want to make biological use of her organs.

That said I do think we have to agree to disagree. I think ultimately this is a fundamental difference in how we view bodily autonomy and we will never agree with each other.

FairPlayer274 · 22/05/2025 17:36

JHound · 22/05/2025 15:08

Yep I can’t afford a home….and I don’t think commercial landlords and landlords with multiple properties who can price me out help that.

I fail to see how people purchasing multiple properties “prices you out” of the market. A very small percentage of people are landlords, and the vast majority of them don’t buy their properties outright; they take out multiple mortgages and use the rent to make the payments on it, until it’s all paid off. It’s leveraging debt in order to make investments.

If you can’t get a mortgage and afford to maintain a house, you can’t get a mortgage and afford to maintain a house. I assume you don’t want to live with your parents still.

Arraminta · 22/05/2025 17:39

That our Special Forces should be exempt from legal prosecution. We ask them to go far above and beyond what other people are capable of, or could even contemplate doing. So the normal rules should not apply to them.

That recent Robert Bilson expose on the SAS was an absolute disgrace. Acting so horrified that they often display sociopathic behaviour? Er, yes, that's why they can run towards the bullets and calmly risk their lives on a daily basis.

JHound · 22/05/2025 17:43

FairPlayer274 · 22/05/2025 17:36

I fail to see how people purchasing multiple properties “prices you out” of the market. A very small percentage of people are landlords, and the vast majority of them don’t buy their properties outright; they take out multiple mortgages and use the rent to make the payments on it, until it’s all paid off. It’s leveraging debt in order to make investments.

If you can’t get a mortgage and afford to maintain a house, you can’t get a mortgage and afford to maintain a house. I assume you don’t want to live with your parents still.

This is often the response landlords give: but their actions indirectly increase values by engaging in buy-to-let schemes, removing stock from the market to use for their lets, setting rents at levels to try to ensure they make profits (obviously) which impacts the ability of renters to set aside deposits / get on the property ladder.

I would never say it is JUST commercial landlords. Obviously it is more complex than that but they are part of the problem and they aren’t doing people the favour they think they are.

A lot of people can afford mortgages. It’s not the monthly payments that’s the issue.

JHound · 22/05/2025 17:45

Arraminta · 22/05/2025 17:39

That our Special Forces should be exempt from legal prosecution. We ask them to go far above and beyond what other people are capable of, or could even contemplate doing. So the normal rules should not apply to them.

That recent Robert Bilson expose on the SAS was an absolute disgrace. Acting so horrified that they often display sociopathic behaviour? Er, yes, that's why they can run towards the bullets and calmly risk their lives on a daily basis.

So people who murder kids should not face prosecution.

Well unless they murder OUR kids. Those foreign kids are fair game.

Cool.

I hope of ever they enact those “psychopathic” tendencies at home then you are equally as understanding.

x2boys · 22/05/2025 17:45

colonialwomanonthewing · 22/05/2025 16:03

People who think the Welsh, Scottish, or Irish are dramatically different to the English - more hospitable, more poetic, more accepting - are deluded, and probably the type of people who have no personality beyond ‘being from [place]’.

Agree with this and there will hsve been much movement ,from all four nations that loads of people despite where they were born and live now will have ancestors from one or more of the other countries.

Arraminta · 22/05/2025 17:50

JHound · 22/05/2025 17:45

So people who murder kids should not face prosecution.

Well unless they murder OUR kids. Those foreign kids are fair game.

Cool.

I hope of ever they enact those “psychopathic” tendencies at home then you are equally as understanding.

The reason Chris Ryan was captured in Iraq was because he refused to kill the boy (herding goats) who discovered him.

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