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What are your unpopular opinions that most mumsnetters don’t agree with?

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Rosebush1245 · 21/05/2025 20:01

Curious to know what opinions you see constantly on mumsnet that you think “Am I the only person that disagrees with that!?”

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RobertaFirmino · 22/05/2025 17:50

Ruggerlass · 21/05/2025 22:27

I accept it’s probably not black and white, but each time you have sex relying on contraception there’s a risk you may get pregnant and you accept that risk.

Edited

Of course I accept that risk. That's what abortions are for.

notquiteruralbliss · 22/05/2025 18:00

Parent isn't a verb
Schools aren't always right
It isn't necessary to conform to stupid rules but appearing to do so can make life easier

Blessthismess2 · 22/05/2025 18:05

1SillySossij · 22/05/2025 15:08

A preterm baby is completely dependent on others for its survival, but its not lawful or moral to kill one

that has nothing to do with anything because it’s not inside a woman’s body.

Blessthismess2 · 22/05/2025 18:08

Tryonemoretime · 22/05/2025 15:13

As you say - her body, her choice - until there is another body inside her.
And aren't there are other times when society has a responsibility to tell others what to do with their bodies? You wouldn't stand back and watch an anorexic starve herself to death, would you? Or watch a teenager leap off a cliff? As a society, we need to protect our most vulnerable members.
I know a very disabled 6ft young man - wheelchair bound, doubly incontinent, fed by peg, non verbal and totally dependent on his parents and carers for survival in every area of his life. He's one of the most vulnerable in society with no hope of ever being able to function independently. Once we start accepting that, to be a valuable member of society you need to be able to protect yourself and function unaided, there will be no barriers to killing the very old and disabled.

As you say - her body, her choice - until there is another body inside her.

Nope. Her body. Her choice. That’s it.

The examples you gave re mental illnesses are irrelevant because they involve people who don’t have full mental capacity.

you absolutely cannot tell a person with full mental capacity what they can and cannot do with their own bodies. End of. It really doesn’t matter what you think - because it’s not your body.

It’s got nothing to do with killing old disabled people. Old disabled people don’t exist inside the bodies of other people. Not sure what you are struggling with here. Maybe it’s the idea that women are people?

PointsSouth · 22/05/2025 18:24

It's perfectly alright to do nothing constructive all day, once in a while. It's okay for your kids to do nothing constructive all day once in a while too. Also your spouse. And it's perfectly alright for the doing nothing constructive to involve no communication at all with anyone else in the house who's also doing nothing constructive.

Doing nothing constructive all day once in a while is not a waste of time. It's vital.

Oh, and it's even better if you do it in your pyjamas.

FairPlayer274 · 22/05/2025 18:25

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 22/05/2025 15:19

Or else their skill set naturally lends itself towards parenting and they're lucky enough to have healthy and relatively "easy" dc?

This. I’ve encountered so man MNs that are like “If YoU jUsT teLL YoUr ChILd No aNd sEt BoUnDaRiEs ThEy’LL bE WeLL beHaVeD!!” And I’m like, “Okay, but what if you’ve done that, and they’re still not well behaved?” They cannot conceive that different children are different, and instead will insist it’s a parenting issue rather than just that some children are naturally easier than others.

Like, my DD was an easy baby. She hardly ever cried, and I was able to easily discern her needs because she gave me clear signals. I don’t see new parents struggling with their fussy babies and go “Yeah, those are incompetent parents!”

Bumpitybumper · 22/05/2025 18:28

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 22/05/2025 15:19

Or else their skill set naturally lends itself towards parenting and they're lucky enough to have healthy and relatively "easy" dc?

It's not just about skillset, it requires an awful lot of time and energy to meet a child's emotional and physical needs. I don't mean basic needs either. If you are a good parent then in my view you are attempting to raise a rounded human so supporting extra curricular interests, a social life and their learning is vital.

Also even the easiest children have tough times and this can be very hard to navigate. The parents I know that believe their children are just plain 'easy' have very little idea of what is actually going on with their child. Children are complex beings.

FairPlayer274 · 22/05/2025 18:36

JHound · 22/05/2025 17:43

This is often the response landlords give: but their actions indirectly increase values by engaging in buy-to-let schemes, removing stock from the market to use for their lets, setting rents at levels to try to ensure they make profits (obviously) which impacts the ability of renters to set aside deposits / get on the property ladder.

I would never say it is JUST commercial landlords. Obviously it is more complex than that but they are part of the problem and they aren’t doing people the favour they think they are.

A lot of people can afford mortgages. It’s not the monthly payments that’s the issue.

Okay, so if people can get mortgages and purchase property, but can’t afford to maintain the property… what are they supposed to do, other than rent someone else’s property?

Also, landlords can set the rent at whatever price they want, but that doesn’t mean they’ll get any tenants to pay that price. Their property value is still subject to the market, and the demand of the tenants. Further, tenants paying too much to live in a given property are often much worse behaved, entitled, or demanding of their landlords. It’s better to have reasonably priced rent and happy tenants in the long run.

Billions of people have existed in an economy with landlords, rented homes, and eventually saved up enough to purchase homes of their own. Somehow methinks the recent inability for young people to become homeowners is the result of some other economical, sociological, and political happenings, rather than the fault of “greedy” landlords.

Arraminta · 22/05/2025 18:44

FairPlayer274 · 22/05/2025 18:36

Okay, so if people can get mortgages and purchase property, but can’t afford to maintain the property… what are they supposed to do, other than rent someone else’s property?

Also, landlords can set the rent at whatever price they want, but that doesn’t mean they’ll get any tenants to pay that price. Their property value is still subject to the market, and the demand of the tenants. Further, tenants paying too much to live in a given property are often much worse behaved, entitled, or demanding of their landlords. It’s better to have reasonably priced rent and happy tenants in the long run.

Billions of people have existed in an economy with landlords, rented homes, and eventually saved up enough to purchase homes of their own. Somehow methinks the recent inability for young people to become homeowners is the result of some other economical, sociological, and political happenings, rather than the fault of “greedy” landlords.

Yep. We were landlords and find it hilarious that we're somehow meant to feel ashamed that we make money out of it? It's almost like we don't actually live in a capitalist society? Oh no, wait. . .

Radra · 22/05/2025 18:47

I don't understand why some people think making money from housing (i.e being a landlord) is intrinsically immoral but think making money from food or water or other necessities is fine

Strawberrycheesecake7 · 22/05/2025 18:54

That it’s very strange to have strong opinions on how long others breastfeed for. It’s not your body/child and it’s none of your business.

That if you live close to your adult child and choose not to give them any help and support with their children, you are not entitled to a relationship with your grandchildren.

Gagamama2 · 22/05/2025 18:56

To expect a certain level of interest / help from grandparents. I’m not talking about regular childcare, but I’ve read so many posts where the OP wants a night away once a year but grandparents aren’t willing to help and everyone is like “you made the choice to be a parent! Stop with the entitlement, your parents don’t have any obligation to babysit!” Etc etc.

ExercicenformedeZ · 22/05/2025 18:57

Strawberrycheesecake7 · 22/05/2025 18:54

That it’s very strange to have strong opinions on how long others breastfeed for. It’s not your body/child and it’s none of your business.

That if you live close to your adult child and choose not to give them any help and support with their children, you are not entitled to a relationship with your grandchildren.

Totally agree with both of these. As I said upthread, I also think that if you don't help your adult children with grandkids at all, and just expect them to do it all themselves (even in an emergency) then you have no right to expect them to care for you when you become old and infirm.

Arraminta · 22/05/2025 18:59

Radra · 22/05/2025 18:47

I don't understand why some people think making money from housing (i.e being a landlord) is intrinsically immoral but think making money from food or water or other necessities is fine

Because they don't actual believe it's immoral. They just state that because it makes them sound morally superior. In reality they're just bitter and mad as Hell that they don't own their own home.

Calmdownpeople · 22/05/2025 18:59

RobertaFirmino · 22/05/2025 17:50

Of course I accept that risk. That's what abortions are for.

Yeah no for me that is way too blasé about abortion. I support a woman’s right to choose but it shouldn’t be seen as everyday contraception.

Seymour5 · 22/05/2025 19:04

User867463 · 22/05/2025 15:55

Women who got married & had children very young (late teens-early 20s) and gush about their husbands being their "best friend", "soulmate" or "love of their life" are actually victims of early life trauma and cripplingly low self esteem. They brainwash themselves into believing that they have their happy ending and will defend their partner to death regardless of how lazy, useless or abusive he actually is.

Met DH at 16, married at 21, had our Golden Wedding a few years ago. He’s currently washing up after cooking tea for both of us whilst I was cutting back in the garden. Brings me tea in bed most mornings. He’s not perfect, but neither am I, and our interests are very different.

We share money, chores, but don't live in each other’s pockets. And our DC still speak to us. I can’t be the only one to have married young to a decent man?

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 22/05/2025 19:06

Bumpitybumper · 22/05/2025 18:28

It's not just about skillset, it requires an awful lot of time and energy to meet a child's emotional and physical needs. I don't mean basic needs either. If you are a good parent then in my view you are attempting to raise a rounded human so supporting extra curricular interests, a social life and their learning is vital.

Also even the easiest children have tough times and this can be very hard to navigate. The parents I know that believe their children are just plain 'easy' have very little idea of what is actually going on with their child. Children are complex beings.

Of course children are complex beings, and of course it takes time and emotional investment to support their overall development. But that doesn't mean that parents will necessarily find it hard work.

Maybe it's about personality as well as skill set, and that side of things just comes more naturally to some people than others... for me, as someone who second guesses nearly everything that I do, parenting is the one thing in my life that has felt instinctive. I guess it may also be affected by the extent to which dc are similar to their parents in their emotional make-up...I always found it very easy to relate to my dd because her mind works in a way that is freakishly similar to my own. We are on completely the same wavelength, and that makes it feel "easy" in a way that I've never experienced in any other relationship. It isn't that I don't know what's going on with her at all...it's simply that it has always felt effortless to find that emotional connection with her.

To be clear, I don't think this makes me a better parent in any way. I just think it has made my parenting journey feel easy in a way that not everyone experiences.

It probably helps, too, that I have only one dc to think about.

Ihateboris · 22/05/2025 19:07

ALL men would cheat, if they thought they could definitely get away with it.

Taylor Swift is nothing special.

High heels are not old fashioned and wearing heels doesn't mean you're a prostitute.

The Royal Family are a waste of money.

Money can make you happy.

ExercicenformedeZ · 22/05/2025 19:09

Ihateboris · 22/05/2025 19:07

ALL men would cheat, if they thought they could definitely get away with it.

Taylor Swift is nothing special.

High heels are not old fashioned and wearing heels doesn't mean you're a prostitute.

The Royal Family are a waste of money.

Money can make you happy.

Agree with all of these except the first. You can't generalise like that, some people have morals. Fine to say the majority, but all? No.

FairPlayer274 · 22/05/2025 19:09

Calmdownpeople · 22/05/2025 18:59

Yeah no for me that is way too blasé about abortion. I support a woman’s right to choose but it shouldn’t be seen as everyday contraception.

the vast majority who have been pregnant or had an abortion know it isn’t a casual affair, nor do they use it as “everyday contraception.”

There are a subset of women who are stuck in abusive relationships and keep getting forcibly impregnated who choose to have multiple abortions in secret, and another subset who just weren’t taught about “regular” contraception properly, and don’t know anything different from getting periodic abortions.

But very few people are just getting knocked up and aborting over and over

Seymour5 · 22/05/2025 19:11

As I have to use a blue badge to park in a disabled spot, I think the same should apply to priority seating on public transport. The signs are quite clear, they're for mobility impaired, pregnant and frail elderly passengers. Happy to show my bus pass! Sadly consideration doesn’t appear to be fashionable any more.

Not a popular view I fear.

SwingTheMonkey · 22/05/2025 19:13

Chaddi · 22/05/2025 16:54

If someone alive is currently and having a bad quality of life. We try and help improve their quality of life. We don't euthanise them.

The homeless are having a really bad time, we don't shoot them in the head to put them out of their misery.

We don’t do a damn thing to help them, and you well know it. Nothing is done about the care system, kids are still living with neglectful parents, people are still living on the streets, addicted to drugs and selling themselves to pay for it. And none of that will change. But as long as those people are alive - who cares eh? You live in cloud cuckoo land. I’m going to go out on a limb and assume this is a religious thing? Do you really think your god would prefer children to be born at if they will live a life of misery?

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 22/05/2025 19:13

Seymour5 · 22/05/2025 19:11

As I have to use a blue badge to park in a disabled spot, I think the same should apply to priority seating on public transport. The signs are quite clear, they're for mobility impaired, pregnant and frail elderly passengers. Happy to show my bus pass! Sadly consideration doesn’t appear to be fashionable any more.

Not a popular view I fear.

Edited

The way I see it is they’re priority seats, they’re not reserved. I’ll happily vacate the seat if needed for those you’ve stated but if it’s free and there’s no other seats, I’ll use it.

Ihateboris · 22/05/2025 19:14

ExercicenformedeZ · 22/05/2025 19:09

Agree with all of these except the first. You can't generalise like that, some people have morals. Fine to say the majority, but all? No.

I've obviously been extremely unlucky then...every single guy I've had a relationship has cheated on me. ..either with escorts or colleagues.

BebbanburgIsMine · 22/05/2025 19:15

elfendom · 21/05/2025 22:22

That the DIL is mostly more sided with than the MIL. (I am not a MIL), but my god MIL's get a hard time on here.
Gentle parenting ... I think it is just pure laziness, takes the least energy.
Dogs and babies and dogs taking precedence over humans and dogs never been left alone for a bit (I love dogs), dogs dictating holidays.
Cats, way too much cat love, can't trust a cat .

I love my cat more than I love anyone apart from my children.

He gives me so much love, and I adore him.

No such thing as too much cat love.

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