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For not dating an unemployed man?

905 replies

Butterfly789 · 20/05/2025 22:53

Just need some validation that I’m not a complete heartless cow!

I recently met a man via online dating and we have been chatting for a few weeks (haven’t met up yet). At first, he was a bit vague about what his job was, but eventually admitted he’s unemployed due to an accident he had 5 years ago. He says he’s unable to work because of this. I was a bit apprehensive, but carried on talking to him and arranged a date, as he’s actually really lovely and I enjoy speaking to him. This was until today when I had a bit of a ‘what am I doing?’ moment and decided this man isn’t for me. I told him this (in a diplomatic way) and he didn’t take it very well.

For context - I am 28, have a well paid professional job, am a homeowner and have a 3 year old. He is 10 years older than me, lives in council housing and as I previously mentioned, is unemployed.

Am I just being a massive snob? As I said, he’s a really lovely man, I’m just not sure how it would work with us having such different lifestyles!

OP posts:
Comedycook · 21/05/2025 11:30

When it comes to dating, sex and relationships, you don't have to be fair...you can say no to anyone for absolutely any reason or absolutely no reason. There's no need to justify it.

whoamI00 · 21/05/2025 11:31

He didn’t tell you what he did honestly, he tried to hide it. That reason alone is enough not to date him.

Hubblebubble · 21/05/2025 11:31

I would never date an unemployed man. Infact, post university I refused to let my long term boyfriend of 4 years move in with me unless he got a job.

IkeaMeatballGravy · 21/05/2025 11:32

YANBU OP

You can be as discriminatory as you like when it comes to choosing a partner. You don't owe anyone a relationship. End of.

AthWat · 21/05/2025 11:32

JHound · 21/05/2025 11:25

It’s incoherent because you are inconsistent in when it’s unreasonable to reject a stranger and when it’s not unreasonable.

If this man had reached out to OP and she rejected him outright without wanting to learn more about him, according to you that would not be unreasonable.

Because OP has had a few conversations with this man her decision to reject him without learning more about him now becomes unreasonable.

That position is incoherent.

(And she does not know “many things she likes about this man” - the issue you don’t know how OLD works. He is essentially a stranger she has had a few conversations with. Only marginally above a strange man you meet on the street. And if her dealbreaker is no unemployed men, it’s not unreasonable for her to hold that boundary she has.)

Edited

Yes, given that she liked everything about him bar the fact that he hasn't worked for while due to injury. Which she has no idea of the specifics of.

That, to me, is not good sense. Although it's her right, of course, and she can't be blamed for it. There's nothing more I can say.

JHound · 21/05/2025 11:33

AthWat · 21/05/2025 11:29

OK, that's nice for you. You think it's reasonable (good sense) for people not to want to date people of different races purely on the basis of race. Enough said, I think.

They did not say that. They said it’s reasonable for people to reject people they are not attracted to.

I also don’t get the relevance of immutable traits to lifestyle choices.

ThatCyanCat · 21/05/2025 11:34

It doesn't matter if OP can or can't "do better". She doesn't want to date this guy and the only reasons people are giving her to do it are that she somehow owes it to him ("learn more about him") or she should take any man even if she doesn't like him.

Ask yourself why so many people on here are attempting to scare or moralise a solvent young woman into dating a man ten years older in a poor financial situation and who isn't gracious about rejection.

JHound · 21/05/2025 11:37

AthWat · 21/05/2025 11:32

Yes, given that she liked everything about him bar the fact that he hasn't worked for while due to injury. Which she has no idea of the specifics of.

That, to me, is not good sense. Although it's her right, of course, and she can't be blamed for it. There's nothing more I can say.

Why are you making things up?

Where does she say “she likes everything about him?”

She does not know him - He’s a stranger!

Your position is absolutely incoherent and is just incel sloganeering.

Incidentally it’s never unreasonable to reject somebody for one trait. I reject men for having young children and I don’t care what other amazing qualities they have. I also date long term unemployed men and would immediately reject anybody on learning that. It’s never unreasonable to decline to date somebody for a factor that will impact your dating life.

And this man was clearly trying to hide the fact he was long term unemployed. If there was a good reason he would have been honest and upfront.

InterIgnis · 21/05/2025 11:37

AthWat · 21/05/2025 11:21

No, she doesn't need to clarify further, but it might benefit her if she did. It's that simple.

I'm not saying she's done anything wrong, or that she should feel bad about. It's nothing to do with him at all. I don't think many people are really getting it.

It also might is likely to benefit her if she doesn’t. If we’re hypothesizing about unknown futures based on what ‘might be’ - maybe if she doesn’t reject this guy outright she’ll miss an opportunity to meet a man that is a far better fit for her.

Disagreeing with you does not mean we don’t understand what you’re saying.

JHound · 21/05/2025 11:37

ThatCyanCat · 21/05/2025 11:34

It doesn't matter if OP can or can't "do better". She doesn't want to date this guy and the only reasons people are giving her to do it are that she somehow owes it to him ("learn more about him") or she should take any man even if she doesn't like him.

Ask yourself why so many people on here are attempting to scare or moralise a solvent young woman into dating a man ten years older in a poor financial situation and who isn't gracious about rejection.

It’s a word that starts with an M and ends in a Y.

AthWat · 21/05/2025 11:41

ThatCyanCat · 21/05/2025 11:34

It doesn't matter if OP can or can't "do better". She doesn't want to date this guy and the only reasons people are giving her to do it are that she somehow owes it to him ("learn more about him") or she should take any man even if she doesn't like him.

Ask yourself why so many people on here are attempting to scare or moralise a solvent young woman into dating a man ten years older in a poor financial situation and who isn't gracious about rejection.

Why conflate "Learn more about him" and "owes it to him" , which are not remotely the same thing?

AthWat · 21/05/2025 11:44

InterIgnis · 21/05/2025 11:37

It also might is likely to benefit her if she doesn’t. If we’re hypothesizing about unknown futures based on what ‘might be’ - maybe if she doesn’t reject this guy outright she’ll miss an opportunity to meet a man that is a far better fit for her.

Disagreeing with you does not mean we don’t understand what you’re saying.

What makes me think people don't understand what I am saying is not that they agree with me, but that they keep on saying I am claiming she should have dated him, or I am trying to "pressurise her into doing it". I've said all along she owes him nothing and should do whatever she wants, but I can say this and at the same think it wasn't a reasonable decision based on the information she gave us. She asked the question. I answered.

TheHerboriste · 21/05/2025 11:45

All of this derailing about race is ridiculous.

One’s race isn’t a choice.

Being a five-year unemployed 35-year-old who’s oddly well enough to exercise and travel to football matches is.

ThatCyanCat · 21/05/2025 11:47

AthWat · 21/05/2025 11:41

Why conflate "Learn more about him" and "owes it to him" , which are not remotely the same thing?

Because if you think she "should" learn more about him then you do think it is a moral obligation, even if you're forced to concede that she may, in fact, refuse a man a date.

AthWat · 21/05/2025 11:48

ThatCyanCat · 21/05/2025 11:47

Because if you think she "should" learn more about him then you do think it is a moral obligation, even if you're forced to concede that she may, in fact, refuse a man a date.

I don't think she "should" do anything, she is an adult in control of her life.

I might think she would be better advised to do something. It has nothing, either way, to do with morality. I'm not sure why you think morality even comes into it.

MargoLivebetter · 21/05/2025 11:49

The premise of the original question is flawed! There is no reasonable or unreasonable about why we do or don't want to date someone. It is personal preference and we can say no to a date for any reason whatsoever. It is AIBU to ask is it AIBU to not want to date someone because they are black, white, disabled, rich, poor, Greek, Indian, Jewish, Atheist, vegetarian. It doesn't matter what the reason, it is down to the individual to decide on whatever basis they so please who they will or will not go on a a date with and if they don't want to, for whatever reason they so choose, then that reason is reason enough.

JamieCannister · 21/05/2025 11:49

TheHerboriste · 21/05/2025 11:45

All of this derailing about race is ridiculous.

One’s race isn’t a choice.

Being a five-year unemployed 35-year-old who’s oddly well enough to exercise and travel to football matches is.

You do realize that sex isn't a choice either, but women are perfectly entitled to exclude all men or all women from their dating pool?

InterIgnis · 21/05/2025 11:50

AthWat · 21/05/2025 11:44

What makes me think people don't understand what I am saying is not that they agree with me, but that they keep on saying I am claiming she should have dated him, or I am trying to "pressurise her into doing it". I've said all along she owes him nothing and should do whatever she wants, but I can say this and at the same think it wasn't a reasonable decision based on the information she gave us. She asked the question. I answered.

Are you willfully obtuse, or is it an accidental affliction?

ThatCyanCat · 21/05/2025 11:52

InterIgnis · 21/05/2025 11:50

Are you willfully obtuse, or is it an accidental affliction?

I'm starting to think it's wilful. It's all about getting women to date men when they don't want to, one way or another.

AthWat · 21/05/2025 11:52

InterIgnis · 21/05/2025 11:50

Are you willfully obtuse, or is it an accidental affliction?

Not sure what reply you want to that? Your insults don't really bother me, I'm afraid. Carry on though if it makes you feel better.

AthWat · 21/05/2025 11:52

ThatCyanCat · 21/05/2025 11:52

I'm starting to think it's wilful. It's all about getting women to date men when they don't want to, one way or another.

Except it isn't, at all.

TheHerboriste · 21/05/2025 11:53

JamieCannister · 21/05/2025 11:49

You do realize that sex isn't a choice either, but women are perfectly entitled to exclude all men or all women from their dating pool?

I think everyone can choose to exclude anyone from their dating pool, without justifying themselves.

But the factor raised about this guy is his apparent lack of interest in earning a living.

ThatCyanCat · 21/05/2025 11:53

AthWat · 21/05/2025 11:52

Except it isn't, at all.

Ah well, that settles it.

AthWat · 21/05/2025 11:55

ThatCyanCat · 21/05/2025 11:53

Ah well, that settles it.

No, the points I've made will make that clear to anyone who reads them without prejudice. But if you feel your stating an unsupported conclusion trumps me denying it, again, that's your prerogative.

InterIgnis · 21/05/2025 11:55

AthWat · 21/05/2025 11:52

Not sure what reply you want to that? Your insults don't really bother me, I'm afraid. Carry on though if it makes you feel better.

I mean, I gave two options to choose from, so feel free to go for whichever one applies.