To absolutely not want closer ties to Europe

[Viviennemary]

What is the matter with Stammer toadying up to the EU. We voted Out. Has he forgotten. I switched the TV off when I heard the word contribution and free movement. Here we go again. Shafted and ripped off at every turn and following their dumb rules. It's groundhog day. I'm furious.

Mere Details! Hufflepuffle.

lord have mercy

You mean like EU laws like the working time directive which limits working hours, ensures adequate rest periods for workers etc? So your boss can't make you work mega long hours?
Bloody awful one, eh?

That's because we have a trade deficit with the EU so it suits them.

I think posters are on their high horse because @Viviennemary clearly doesn't want explanations and has been displaying similar levels of understanding since the actual Brexit vote, despite all the explanations that have been given. She just appears to want to live on an island and have nothing to do with any other countries, and yet somehow still prosper.

So really you don’t have enough knowledge to be able to give a specific answer therefore you are just wound up and furious about something that you really don’t understand….laughable, busy your mind with more simplistic issues that your brain might be able to process

You clearly don't have a grasp of the basics.

I suggest you stay away from the news given you are unable to understand what is actually happening.

It upsets me greatly that people like you removed so much from so many.

That wasn't the question on the ballot paper.

The UK was very active in drawing up EU laws when the country was a member - and no EU laws were ever enacted in the UK without first having been approved by the UK Parliament.

The ECHR (which is the court that Brexiters seem most concerned about) has nothing to do with the EU. It is a body under the Council of Europe, which has 46 member countries (including the 27 EU countries).

You are the one who is confused, not the previous poster - European Court of Justice;

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2019/mar/29/landmarks-in-law-the-90s-fishing-case-that-stoked-uk-euroscepticism

But not non tariff free trade with the EU

That's what Starmer is trying to improve, incredible so many want to harm our ability to export and grow our economy.

They should also exercise their economic might by boycotting anything produced in EU countries or by EU based companies. No more VWs or Prosecco for them!

This isn’t closer ties with Europe. It shackles without any meaningful benefits. What we are giving is worth far more than what we are receiving. Starmer had messed this up big time.

With all due respect (or at least all the respect this is due), perhaps turning off the tv in a huff rather than really understanding the intricacies of the agreement is the problem? If fewer people had done that around the discussions of Brexit, we might well be in a much better position right now.

"Labour needs to sort the economy out"

....trade deals agreed with India, US and EU

"Not like that though"

If Brexiters couldn't fucking define what leave meant they don't get to fucking define what post-leaving looks like forever. Your tantrum is nearly 9 years old.

My children’s school already do

You are doomed then. Unlucky.

This is wonderful news! I’m so pleased that we’ve started building back the metaphorical bridge again.

Have you tried meditation ?

I just feel for the fishermen, ooops sorry, I meant fisherfolk. 😀
was this not a big part of Brexit for them, that the waters surrounding this island would not be overfished by the French and suchl like.
Are they not back to square one?

I guarantee if we had just two weeks of EU visas and no eGates, we'd have many many Brexiteers screaming how disgraceful it was that they no longer were allowed into the EU due previous convictions.

It'd be hilarious.

Except we still have to comply with EU regulations even if we’re no longer part of the EU. If we export goods to them (cars, washing machines, cheese etc), they must comply. And those goods are now subject to expensive checks because we might not be complying. Which is costing us £4bn a year.

At least when we were in the EU we had a say in those laws. And most of the EU CE standards were adopted from the BSI kitemark.

We were right at the heart of law-making and other countries had to comply with laws that we agreed with, agreed to and actually wrote.

Tell us how the UK had the upper hand and was in a position to negotiate more favourable terms in your view.

No because the agreement is an extension of the existing agreement.