To absolutely not want closer ties to Europe

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What is the matter with Stammer toadying up to the EU. We voted Out. Has he forgotten. I switched the TV off when I heard the word contribution and free movement. Here we go again. Shafted and ripped off at every turn and following their dumb rules. It's groundhog day. I'm furious.

Before Brexit we were moving too close to being a Federation of European States for my comfort. I understand many will not object to that.

Don’t let the door hit you on the arse.

I actually meant to vote "you are NOT being unreasonable". Starmer is trying to drag the UK back into the EU by the back door. We need to remind him that the majority of people wo voted in the Referendum in 2016 voted to leave.
We don't want to be dragged back into the EU, because when it eventually crashes and burns, we don't want to fall with it

The only useful thing Starmer has done thus far IMO.

So you don't have a real documentable reason, you just hate everything outside the UK. Do you ever travel? Do you ever buy anything from outside the UK?

Put a sock in it

So, I can only conclude that you are unable to provide an example.

Sadly the majority of people on here are remainers and think the sun shines out of Kier’s rear end!! You won’t get anywhere with them, they’re anti British ☹️🇬🇧

It's Starmer. You had 9 years since Brexit vote. What exactly are you furious about?

Unfortunately you are ignoring facts we can't change, geographically we are part of Europe, ignoring them as trading partners is insane. Also our dear politicians and law makers (all of them) have sat on their backsides and watched their salaries roll in whilst ratifing EU laws rather than go to the trouble of writing them themselves. Nigel Farage himself was an EU fat cat as Euro MP for over 20 years before he having the brilliant idea of backing Brexit-people also completely forget that. The truth is national wealth unged by about a third because of Brexit and we are still losing business in the financial markets all the time because we have no access to the Euro. You really need to reflect on the full cost of a complete break with Europe.

By logic you are being unreasonable. Voting to leave our biggest trading bloc will go down in history as the dumbest thing any country has done, all in the name of irrational emotion and toxic BS populism. The UK's economy has been hammered as a result, we need to get it into our head that the UK is not a global superpower, we need to stop turning the country into a toxic clone of America, we need to re-establish good relations with Europe and, ultimately, rejoin the EU. UK exceptionalism is dreadful.

When we were a part of the EU we were an active contributor and helped form many of the laws that member states live by. Boris Johnson is the total shit who wrote lie after lie and sadly a lot of people believed the shit he constantly spouted in the Telegraph. There is no Brexit bonus. The NHS never received the promised billions advertised on the Battle bus. Such an important choice should have required a two thirds majority. The worst example of self harm in this nations history.

Uk is not being governed by eu, it's called a deal, do you feel same about the Uk-America deal that made? We need deals with the rest of the world and as our closest neighbours it is necessary to have trade deals.

Stop listeningng to Nigel reading the Daily Mail and being gullible Op Scottish fish exporters and Cheshire cheese exporters among many businesses who nearly went out of business post Brexit benefit from this and you might too next time you holiday in Benidorm and can use the e gates YABU you dont even know what it is youre against

Please feel free to express your view here. But starting that painful discussion again? Let Britain heal

I'm also a Brexiteer, I have no wish to ever return to the EU.
OP you're asking the wrong bunch this question as a lot of them seem to think we didn't understand, didn't know our own minds and regret our decision.
This life is about improving things for future generations not getting a short term quick fix of easy access through passport control and longer stays in EU countries.
The future belongs to our children and on their behalf we have to become more adventurous and look further afield for fresh markets in this changing world.
I do think Starmer and his party have failed to push through the changes he insisted he said he would in his manifesto.
The Conservative Party had become lazy, greedy and showed contempt for the voters.
Reform, well a short sharp blast of Reform might just wake the other parties up.
What we really need is strong leadership. No contenders for that job yet.
It's a changing world, different alliances being formed. Dangerous times.
We are watching you Starmer and if you carry on ignoring us, you won't get in again.

Yes you are being unreasonable. Who is we! We was you 17.4 million people whom alot have either passed now or changed their minds.

Given at that time there was about 46 million adults who could vote, two thirds of the country didn't vote.

16.1 million voted remain. So approx another 13 million didn't vote or vote didn't get back on time as postal votes were sent out at the same time abroad as in the U.K.

The referendum called again would be a different result as people have realised what we have lost.

Before you sneer 1000s have lost businesses because of Brexit, shelves are emptied since Brexit because we are the only country ever to put sanctions on themselves. The jobs that have gone. The jobs we can't fill as the EU state people went home who did the work of porters, cleaners, nurses etc we cant fill

The N.I good Friday agreement, was b**ared by it, everything has gone up, and we struggling to get things into the country..

Why the hell would you not want closer ties with your nearest neighbours

As for free movement it is only for 18-30 years old. Why the hell should they have taken away what we had a decades. They didnt even vote for it. The young in general didn't want to leave.

Oh and just like we have an election every 5 years there is no reason the referendum won't be revisited and the fight for the 2nd referendum and rejoin still goes across Europe and the U.K.

The referendum was sold on a lie to keep the elite and bankers rich. It was an opinion poll which never needed to be acted on.

Incase you haven't guessed yes I'm a #HardRemainer now #HardRejoiner 🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺

Oh and please don't tell me to go and live there. I cant can I. Brexit seen to that

I am glad that we’re having closer ties with the EU. Brexit has been a disaster. All the politicians who advocated for it should be jailed for malfeasance.

Yes, because the promised £350Million on the NHS per week worked so well… no wonder you are furious.🙄

What laws?

You are.
it was a narrow margin and people were misled by Farage and Johnson.

But they didn’t though. Only a small percentage of the electorate (about 35%) voted to leave.

Ask again: what laws did you think you were governed by when we were in the EU? And what happened to these laws when we left???

I'm thrilled, I didn't want to leave and went on demos where I heard Kier Starmer and politicians from all sides speak to support remaining. I've hated not being in the eu and it hasn't gone well so far. I think a lot of people are regretting their leave vote.
We may not ever rejoin but this is a good start towards closer relationship with the rest of Europe...After all we are Europeans!

It sounds like OP is my dead dad, trolling us from the grave. Son of an Irish immigrant, who worked across Europe, saved hard and spent his pension cruising the Med.
Voted Brexit
Not missed