Starmer is about to reverse Brexit

[TheQuirkyMaker]

Is is right that an unpopular govt can reverse the democratic wishes of the UK to have nothing to do with Europe?

At the end of the day, Leave won! We won, yay! If you want to join with the winners, join Reform UK! Nige is making a major speech today and will show how he will lower prices, end immigration and free the UK from the remaining burdensome EU regulation, things the Tories and Labour have failed to do!

He won't do anything because he will never be in the government and he knows it, which is why he can make all these promises he is incapable of delivering.

Is this a reform recruitment thread? Selling unicorns and magic beans.

I don't care how many times he went to the stupid EU Parliament.

He was voted in on a Tory ticket and then defected to the Liberals. My parents never voted for him again because he was a turncoat..

There's a new YouGov poll out which asks who would be the best Prime Minister. 44% say Starmer and 29% say Farage. Starmer also beats Kemi Badenoch and Ed Davey who both also beat Farage.

I don't think he is as popular as his deluded acolytes think. They are actually selling spite and hatred although this particular Reform recruiter is in cloud cuckoo land with her refusal to answer questions without resorting to the old Brexit slogans about getting their country back . They may be poor but they will be happy because they are allowed, indeed actively encouraged, to be cruel to migrants and people with non-British ancestry.

Hope your parents were alright after that ordeal.

And subsequently Labour won. We won ! Yay !

With a manifesto promising to build stronger, closer relationships with the EU.

Which is exactly what they’re doing.

What did you win? a Coconut!

Farage will again promise many things and the gullible will believe him....

One reason i didn't vote Leave is because anyone with a modicum of intelligence could see he was promising a "wish list" that was all, nothing of substance.
It was all "we could do this, we could do that" but nothing concrete.

He is following the same script once again, "Fool me once....."

We won, yay!

You didn't win, you wanted to Remain, but didn't vote, remember? You didn't even know what the question was. You thought it was a vote for the UK to have nothing to do with the EU.🤦‍♀️

They won a pair of clown shoes and a bendy banana.

@MissCharlotteLutterell For those who did not read my Brexit Advantage or dismissed it out of hand I am repeating it here.

Being a Member of the EU stopped the UK unilaterally implementing a ban on Live Exports. This was because the EU classed animals as “goods” and not as sentient beings and EU Regulations allowed free movement of “goods”.
So a ban would have impeded trade with other EU Member States.

Now we are no longer in the EU and finally after 50 years of campaigning the Animal Welfare (Livestock Exports) Act 2024 has been passed to stop live transport of animals from UK.
(The EU still supports this vile trade.)

It was sponsored by Steve Barclay MP and Lord Douglas Miller.

It says a great deal about some Members of the EU Parliament if they think sentient creatures should be classed as "goods, so they can be subjected to the cruelty of being transported alive (sometimes for hundreds of miles.)

Anyone who supports the EU and this cruel trade needs to examine their moral compass.
animalequality.org/blog/live-animal-transport/

No need to be sarcastic.

They were very disillusioned and wrote and told him so.

Whilst this is a valid point, it is also a matter of single issue thinking. And we know the vast majority of Leave voters did not vote as they did for animal welfare reasons. If they had, they wouldn't be so keen on US meat imports.

And then.... the electorate in the region voted him in again as a Lib Dem. Hardly universal disillusionment.

Or the import of foie gras

The FTA deals the UK made with Australia and New Zealand allows the import of live animals to the UK

Labour - unpopular? They won by a historic landslide.
Brexit was basically 50/50

That's actually a disgrace. Banning live exports to somewhere a couple of hours away but allowing then from.somewhere 24 hours away? No wonder the Austealians and NZ were so astonished at the deal they got. This is what happens when Brexiteers are so desperate to prove Brexit was a good idea, despite all evidence to the contrary that they just cave to every request just to show that on paper they made a deal. No matter how crap it is.

You are only partially correct.

Single live animals can be imported for breeding purposes. Most will be transported by air but in any event they will be carried in far superior conditions than those put on lorries.
There are specialist companies that transport such animals and they make sure that their welfare needs are met en route.
Own crate, bedding, food and water provided etc

Please see my reply at 15.13.

So maybe you should apologise for your uncalled-for remarks?

Well, if they wanted a turncoat that's up to them.

There is a campaign to stop the import of this cruel food.

https://animalequality.org/news/2025/03/19/uk-demands-an-end-to-foie-gras-imports/

LOANS. Eu citizens didn't pay. They were loans, but you know that.

At least US meat is "on the hook" not "on the hoof".

People do have a free choice whether to buy it or not.

"And we know the vast majority of Leave voters did not vote as they did for animal welfare reasons."

No-one knows why the majority of Leave voters voted "Leave", so don't make stuff up.

Which won't be paid back until 2031