To say going to bed really early is equal to bed rotting by getting up late ?

[RobertaBeckett]

Dh starting to be to bed at 1030 even 10 doenst get up till just before 9

yet gets grumpy if you don’t get up before 9 ….

i say it’s equal

I go to bed late, about 1am but often 2. But I don’t wake up until 8, so I get plenty of sleep.

This thread is so interesting. I’m a night owl - rarely in bed before midnight, then on work days up at 6.50. I know I should go to bed earlier but I just can’t! We don’t have a TV in the bedroom and I never read/scroll in there at night, so it’s bed to sleep rather than to relax. At weekends I tend to wake about 9am, but will often “rot” with a cup of tea, a bit of scrolling, and the cat if I don’t have anywhere to be.

I am half asleep and grumpy in the mornings. It takes me an hour and 2 coffees to register with the world. However, I am very energised in the evenings and I enjoy the quiet time when everyone else is in bed.
I have tried to switch and go to bed earlier (10-10:30pm) but it just doesn’t work. I wake up really early like 5am and can’t get back to sleep. I don’t feel tired until midnight. I get up at 7am.
Working out how much sleep you need is trial
and error but once you know, you know. Many of us don’t have the choice in getting up at a later time …kids need to be ready for school and then work for the grown ups. Pretty sure I would be 12am-8am if I could. I don’t like long lie-ins as feel the day is wasted.
A friend goes to bed at 9-9:30pm and gets up at 5am. Excercises, food preps and watches a bit of tv before everyone else gets up. Horses for courses. Except when we go away together and then we stay up late (close to my normal hours) and get up early (close to her normal hours) for the first couple of nights before we meet in the middle naturally

Who is saying 8am is getting up late?!

Yes I've read similar, it's why some people are more suited to night or late shifts and let's face it, illness, criminals and things like fires don't run on an early bird schedule so if you need medical care, a police presence or a fire engine, those lazy buggers sleeping in until dinner time are your first port of call.
And I've heard plenty of people declare they couldn't possibly hack night shifts - but if we want those things available if we need to then someone has to not just be available but alert and on the ball. They need sleep in order to do that.
Even care, hospitality and retail, generally a bit looked down on, need night support and not just for the other night owls. Moving and putting stock out, cleaning when no one is around, Royal Mail have regular night drivers - it's how post gets from one end of the country to the other, it'd be even slower if that only happened in daylight hours!
Exactly as you say, both have value, but I've found as someone who's done permanent lates and nights that because more people are asleep during the night they think these things maybe just happen by magic and you're sleeping all day and doing nothing all night because 'Everyone is in bed'.

I think it really doesn’t matter as long as it fits your schedule and you’re getting enough sleep, ca.,7-9 hours. Some people like to sit in bed & read , I think we forget that we need to factor in rest time and modern life demands that we’re rushing around all the time.

Where on earth do you live that school starts at 7:30? Definitely not in the UK.

Nursery is OPEN at 7am. They don't actually expect that people who don't need to will get up at 6am to drop their kids off at 7.

If I remember correctly, in some American states the school day can start as early at 7:30. Not sure how uk pupils would cope😂

Yes it annoys me that going to bed early and getting up early is somehow seen as more virtuous than going to bed late and getting up later.

I don’t need to get up particularly early. At this life stage the latest I can get out of bed and get kids ready for school and me to work etc is 7.45am. So that’s when I get up. I go to bed about midnight so I’m comfortably getting 7.5 hours sleep average a night which is clearly enough for me.

I prep everything the night before so it’s basically 45 mins from my bed to out the door with 2 kids. How is that worse than me getting up an hour earlier and faffing about for ages?

As an aside - when we lived in the US school started at 8am. High school was earlier! I was not a fan of the earlier mornings but certainly in our area 8-4 was the standard work day rather than 9-5

The OH and I have completely different clocks. When we're not working, we sometimes literally pass on the stairs as one goes down for breakfast and the other's coming up to bed. It doesn't bother us.

@MrsSunshine2b - no not the uk. The kindergarten opens at 7am, and they expect all children in by 7.45am latest.
School starts 7.30am and finishes by 11.30am/12. It’s actually pretty normal timings in most the world apart
from Uk.

Dinner 4pm. Supper 7.30pm.

Mine would cope fine. Youngest was awake before 6am (again).

I am perplexed that 10pm is seen as early for going to bed and 8am is seen as late for getting up

@tinyspiny - Ds goes at 8.30pm. We all eat together between 6-7pm

I think quite a lot of people would say that is fairly late to get up on a weekday. Almost everyone I know gets up between 6 and 7.30am.

DH & I have totally separate rhythms. I’m mainly in bed by 10 pm but get up by 6.30 am where is he likes to go to bed about midnight and gets up about 8 am. It’s just how we roll.

If you’re working and need to be ‘at your desk’ by 9 or have kids Then that makes sense.

However if your time is your own then what difference is it the actual time you go to bed and get up.
I know Michael Mosley showed us the best times to go to bed ‘health wise’ but I’m very much a night owl. I’ll often work till the dawn chorus and then go to bed because I’m just more productive when it’s dark. ( plus at the moment I can sleep through the din of my neighbours, but that’s another story 🫤)

So does that mean that because I'm up at 6/6.30 on a Sunday for my shift I'm up early, especially for a Sunday as most people aren't and therefore that virtuousness counteracts my lazy wasteful weekday ways lazing in bed until 10.30 because I've either been a late the day before or it's my day off? 🤣

That's light-hearted and not meant as a challenge to anyone!

Me too. I read for an hour or so, sleep for 9 hours if I’m lucky, awake at 6am, up at 7.

I find that the world is amazing when I get up at 4:30. Just the birds and me ☺️

10pm would be a dream for me. It used to be midnight, now it's getting to 00:30. 🙄. Too much night time screen time.

I go to bed at 9 ish but have my dinner at 5 with my kid x