To say going to bed really early is equal to bed rotting by getting up late ?

[RobertaBeckett]

Dh starting to be to bed at 1030 even 10 doenst get up till just before 9

yet gets grumpy if you don’t get up before 9 ….

i say it’s equal

@Hillrunning Why?

My dogs have always dictated bedtime too 🤣

The idea that being in bed early and up early is in some way virtuous is a throwback to some weird puritanical idea. There's nothing wrong with resting when you are tired and nothing inherently "good" about needing/wanting less sleep.

I need a lot of sleep to function properly. In the working week, I will usually go to bed (to read for a bit) around 9-9:30pm and wake up around 6:30am.

I have a very busy job as a full time teacher and could not do my job without this amount of sleep.

On the weekends I might go to bed a bit later and get up later :)

Don't know if it is true or not but always remember my mum saying sleep before midnight was better than after?

It's not though is it.
I understand you're trying to come across as painfully cool and oh so busy but it's just nonsensical.
My children need to be up and ready for school at 7am. I would be neglecting their need for adequate sleep if I allowed them to be out and about regularly at 10.30pm.
That would be limiting their life choices.

I couldn't sleep more than 5-6 hours, it just seems such a waste.

To clarify…are you saying that you think going to bed at 10.30 is early?

If you think this is early…what time do you go to bed?

I would have thought 10-10.30 is a pretty standard bedtime 🤷‍♀️

No not really, because once the day is over I've done all the tasks I need to do and I'm not going to be doing anything productive. I'll just be sitting downstairs watching TV or drinking wine. So I may as well go up and relax in bed if I'm tired. Getting up late now and again is fine but I see it as wasting time. I prefer to get up and get on with my day and do what I need to do.

I love an early night

It can be, but it won't feel healthy.

I had a job for a while which meant leaving the house at around 7am, not that early by many people's standards. I found getting up excruciatingly difficult, regularly had to stop to throw up on the way to work, developed several mental and physical health difficulties, and felt absolutely exhausted all of the time.

Now, I get the same amount of sleep that I did then, but I start work at 10am. All the mental and physical health issues have resolved themselves, I have more energy, and wake up feeling refreshed.

I had to Google "bed rotting", seems no one needs this other than me, but here it is "Bed rotting is where a person stays in bed for an entire day without engaging in daily activities and chores. This concept emphasizes taking time to rest, recharge, and enjoy leisure activities like watching TV, reading, or scrolling through social media without the pressure to be productive." Is this not a horrible term for a good thing?

I love being in bed.

No and no!

I don't think your DH, goes to bed that early or gets up early either. I mean I go to bed at 10pm sometimes earlier but get up between 6.30am/7.00am. So I would say he's laying in if he doesn't get up till 9am.

I mean as an adult who needs 11 hours of sleep? Surely you are doing other things in bed then. I mean a good 8 hours is good enough for me and I've always needed more sleep then most people my age.

I find the idea that normal non retired people with kids can get up at 9am and not permanently be late for life.

10.30pm is late here. Im usually in bed by 9.30pm, read and asleep by 10.30pm

Nursery starts at 7am here, school at 7.30am. So we are all up by 6am very latest, often earlier.

T0.30 is not early… I go to bed at 9 and I love waking up early

For me it’s not. No matter what time I go to bed 7am is the very latest I can sleep. I wish I could lie in but I can’t.

A lot will be dictated by what else is going on in the house. 4 nights out of 5 someone in our household (me, DH, DS) will be doing sport and not home til 8.30 at the earliest. Then we have dinner so 9.30 or 10pm bedtime wouldn't really work for us. I'm crap at getting up early though

But I agree no idea why getting up early is seen as virtuous and staying up late isn't!

10.30 is a really healthy/ sensible bed time

I've had all kinds of routines too - without fail I didn't flourish in any of them which required me to get up early.

I could train myself to do it, but I never felt properly energised and well.

This is an interesting explanation from The Sleep Foundation. It's actually a bit more complex than simple larks and owls, and is all to do with chronotypes and circadian rhythm.

https://www.sleepfoundation.org/how-sleep-works/chronotypes

Both of you should be able to go to bed when you want/need and get up when you want/need.

I'm not intentionally singling you out but this is exactly the kind of comment I mean about judgement for night owls.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with going to bed at 10.30pm - but suggesting this is the "healthy/sensible" time for bed is a gross oversimplification which plays into the whole larks=good, owls=lazy stereotyping.

It also depends on quality of sleep. If I could go to bed and be asleep by 11 and not wake up until 7am that would be great but…I wake up every 2-3hrs and then can be awake for 1-2 hours! So I do stay in bed until about 9.30 am on days off .
I don’t consider myself lazier than the early birds .

Me too! Although I’m up for work at 5am Mon-Fri and at 7am on Sat and Sun for DCs football.

I’m just jealous of 11 hours sleep! I try to get to bed by about 10, it’s rare that I’m not woken by kids before 6am. Last night (this morning?) it was 4am! 😢

I thought bedrotting was laying in the bed literally all day or potentially all weekend. Not just getting up kind of late, or going to bed kind of early.

I'm a night owl but I start work at 7:30 in the morning so I during the week usually go to bed around midnight and get up at 7:00. On the weekends I go to bed between 1:00 and 2:00 in the morning and I get up around 10:00 or 11:00.