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Party pooper - How to respond?

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Secondchoice2 · 17/05/2025 19:33

My son has ASD and struggles to make friends. He is a cheerful 10 year old and is nice to everyone but rarely clicks with people. He has two good friends and I am grateful for that. I have been planning a small birthday party for him for months. He needed 8 guests to run the activity.

I planned it with the mum of one of his two good friends. Let’s call her Cowbag. She has helped me plan, understands the difficulty I have in getting people to attend and I even changed the activity to something her daughter would like. One week to go before the party and she has now withdrawn her acceptance of the invite saying that she accidentally double booked. she sent this by text. My son is devastated.

However, I have now found out that Cowbag’s daughter is now going to the party of another girl on the same day. This girl only gave out invites two days ago.

I spend a lot of time with this woman and I do not know how to respond. I am so upset.

OP posts:
JustSawJohnny · 18/05/2025 15:42

She's putting her own DD before yours, that's all.

It hurts, I know, but she clearly sees it differently and feels her DD should be allowed to go to whichever party she wants to.

What I couldn't get over is the lie. She didn't double book, she just doesn't have the balls to tell you the truth. Add to that the fact that you changed the venue for her DD and, well, it would mean a serious decline in the friendship for me.

Mates don't treat each other that way, OP.

ThejoyofNC · 18/05/2025 15:45

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 18/05/2025 15:38

Here’s my guess.

ND people generally have friends who are also ND.

l would bet her dd is also nd and she wants her to be more “ normal” and popular. Possibly to do with her own school history.

I have raging adhd and was always close to people on the spectrum.

My mom wanted me to be friends with the pretty popular girls because I was pretty and being popular trumped all for her.

All of that said though manners and kindness are two of the most important things a person can have,

She's doing a huge injustice not teaching her that.

That's a crazy assumption that you've made purely based on your individual life experience.

JustSawJohnny · 18/05/2025 15:51

ThejoyofNC · 18/05/2025 15:45

That's a crazy assumption that you've made purely based on your individual life experience.

In all fairness, she did say 'here's my guess'.

We all bring our life experiences to our commentary.

vintagecrow · 18/05/2025 15:52

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 18/05/2025 15:38

Here’s my guess.

ND people generally have friends who are also ND.

l would bet her dd is also nd and she wants her to be more “ normal” and popular. Possibly to do with her own school history.

I have raging adhd and was always close to people on the spectrum.

My mom wanted me to be friends with the pretty popular girls because I was pretty and being popular trumped all for her.

All of that said though manners and kindness are two of the most important things a person can have,

She's doing a huge injustice not teaching her that.

That was a very..wild guess.

JustSawJohnny · 18/05/2025 15:54

Secondchoice2 · 17/05/2025 20:19

The problem is I will see her and her kids at the park after school. I feel sick at the idea of talking to her. I am so angry and hurt.

Then DON'T. Send her a text telling her you know her DD chose another party and had only had the invite a few days back and tell her you feel awfully let down and upset that she lied about it.

We don't have to just put up with other people's shit and carry on as if nothing happened.

Send her a text and concentrate on sorting the party.

JustSawJohnny · 18/05/2025 16:03

Secondchoice2 · 17/05/2025 21:09

I hate your comment because I think you are right and that sucks. He has two friends, so do I want to destroy one of his two friendships? No. Do I want cowbag to understand what a cowbag she is? Yes.

I don’t think I can have both.

I think you can, you just need to give yourself some time so when you do speak to her you can confront the issues without anger.

Fingers crossed the kids will continue to be good friends and play together, which will force the issue to come to a head between the two of you, really.

You don't need to lay into her, you just need to let her know that her actions, lies and flakiness hurt, but the kids are friends and it's your role as Mothers to help them maintain that so you are willing to move past this but you would really appreciate it if she didn't make promises she can't keep in future.

AthWat · 18/05/2025 16:34

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 18/05/2025 15:38

Here’s my guess.

ND people generally have friends who are also ND.

l would bet her dd is also nd and she wants her to be more “ normal” and popular. Possibly to do with her own school history.

I have raging adhd and was always close to people on the spectrum.

My mom wanted me to be friends with the pretty popular girls because I was pretty and being popular trumped all for her.

All of that said though manners and kindness are two of the most important things a person can have,

She's doing a huge injustice not teaching her that.

Guess being the operative word.

Calliopespa · 18/05/2025 17:01

JustSawJohnny · 18/05/2025 15:54

Then DON'T. Send her a text telling her you know her DD chose another party and had only had the invite a few days back and tell her you feel awfully let down and upset that she lied about it.

We don't have to just put up with other people's shit and carry on as if nothing happened.

Send her a text and concentrate on sorting the party.

I think if you do want to say something op, ( and personally I might not bother unless she asked me/ tried to minimise it when seeing me. I’d keep ominous and lofty silence) this sort of approach is best: “I feel hurt and let down because you knew the effort I had put into organising it and that it was important to me and ds.” No name-calling, no slights, no tears.

I think this is much better than saying how long he will take to recover etc ( which sounds like a him problem ) or offering party bags etc ( which seems either lame and full of pathos in the circumstances or passive aggressive - and possibly both).

This is straightforward, factual, no games. Gets it said. Then move on. You’ve told her what you think. She won’t forget. I think when trying to make people feel bad/ guilty, people often make the mistake of leaning into emotion, be it anger, tears of sadness etc. Just say it as it is. I think in the end it’s more powerful. People unfortunately don’t often feel genuinely bad if they have done what they want ( look at some on this thread) and they just then brand your emotion as manipulation/ your lack of control/ overreaction etc. If you stay unemotional and factual it’s pretty hard for them not to grasp you have the measure of them. She’ll know who has ended up wearing the T-shirt of shame. And you have not been nasty or unkind, just said what you felt and why.

JustSawJohnny · 18/05/2025 17:55

Secondchoice2 · 17/05/2025 21:29

I am still torn. Let loose on cowbag or smile and pretend it is all fine to maintain my son’s friendship with Cowbag’s daughter.

The middle ground is your best bet, OP.

Be honest about your disappointment but don't fall into aggression or emotion and make it clear that the kids' friendship is the most important thing here.

Oddsocksanduglyshoes · 18/05/2025 21:57

Calliopespa · 18/05/2025 09:43

I think it’s the cowbag who’d prefer dd to “ feature” at the other party anyway…

ETA even though it’s likely the dd is only a fill-in for someone else who has pulled out at this point.

Edited

That’s sad :( I hate it when people mess up kids party’s

TheHerboriste · 19/05/2025 00:15

Flyswats · 18/05/2025 15:19

You honor your commitments and you don't let your friends down. That's pretty much basic parenting for decent human beings.

Exactly.

These aren’t people of integrity, OP.

You and your son can do better. Don’t settle for mediocrity.

MonteStory · 19/05/2025 08:15

JustSawJohnny · 18/05/2025 17:55

The middle ground is your best bet, OP.

Be honest about your disappointment but don't fall into aggression or emotion and make it clear that the kids' friendship is the most important thing here.

Agreed. Hope all goes well on the school run today @Secondchoice2

aylis · 19/05/2025 10:14

Did you see cowbag on the school run?

ThxForTheFish · 19/05/2025 18:51

MonteStory · 17/05/2025 20:25

All the more reason why I think you need to be honest. You don’t need to attack her or get in a row but just be brutally honest. Avoid her if you possibly can, one word answers to questions and, if pushed, “I’m not really in the mood to chat. I’m quite hurt you nearly ruined my sons party”, shrug, wry smile and walk away.

I had a vaguely similar situation with a mum pulling the whole ‘Oh there wasn’t enough space to invite everyone’ when my daughter was one of 2 kids not invited out of a large friendship group. When I next saw her face to face she tried saying “oh no hard feelings I hope, ha ha, just one of those things”. I just shrugged and said “you could have invited the whole group, you chose not to. That’s your choice but I’m not going to pretend that’s perfectly fine. It’s a shitty thing to do.” Then just stood and looked at her. She looked horrified and it was never mentioned again. But she was noticeably much more ‘careful’ around me, very nicey nice.

People like this are used to treating others like shit, covering it with obvious lies and getting away with it because people don’t want to cause issues.

I think you’re being unfair. Presumably there was a budget? Could it be that an additional £50 (I find most parties are c.£25 / head) wasn’t achievable? The line has to be drawn somewhere.

Secondchoice2 · 19/05/2025 18:52

I didn’t do the school run today. DH went. I cannot avoid it tomorrow though ☹️.

OP posts:
TooGoodToGoto · 19/05/2025 18:53

Secondchoice2 · 19/05/2025 18:52

I didn’t do the school run today. DH went. I cannot avoid it tomorrow though ☹️.

Good luck, you’ve got the high moral ground!

ThxForTheFish · 19/05/2025 18:53

Blueberry911 · 17/05/2025 20:45

Again, this is absolutely on you making the event about her child instead of yours. Why on earth did you do that?

Come on! This is OP doing what she can to make her child’s party more appealing for one of us few friends. OP is not in the wrong here.

ThxForTheFish · 19/05/2025 18:55

Sometimeswinning · 17/05/2025 20:53

What putting my child first? No. None of what the op has said has made sense. Why organise a party where her ds doesn't have the friends to attend? Why choose an activity for friends dd for his birthday? What did he want? Are friends dd and him friends?

OP should be organising a party for him and his friends. Not a random day where one person dropping out ruins it.

Teaching your child that their wants trump everyone else’s feelings. It’s a really import lesson for kids that if they commit to something they commit and can’t just opt out because something better comes along.

MonteStory · 19/05/2025 19:01

ThxForTheFish · 19/05/2025 18:51

I think you’re being unfair. Presumably there was a budget? Could it be that an additional £50 (I find most parties are c.£25 / head) wasn’t achievable? The line has to be drawn somewhere.

They invited kids from outside of school, not a money issue.

It’s the way it’s done. If arranging a party is going to leave out just 1 or 2 out of an established friendship group then just don’t plan it that way?

She also ‘announced’ that not everyone could be included completely unnecessarily on a school WhatsApp. Leaving everyone wondering if one of their kids was one of the chosen few. Again, that’s an active choice. She could have messaged privately, she could have not said anything. It was pathetic dick swinging.

ThxForTheFish · 19/05/2025 19:08

I think the WhatsApp thing is obnoxious and unnecessary. The fact that kids came from out of school doesn’t change the fact that there might have been a limit on numbers (for whatever reason)

edited to say this is replying to Montestory

Jumpers4goalposts · 19/05/2025 19:28

Call her out for it. People like cowbag only do it because people don’t question it.

Laura95167 · 19/05/2025 21:37

I think Cowbag was probably between a rock and a hard place. Her daughter isn't your DSs friend and her daughter probably would rather be with her actual friends, and i can understand that.

It was let you, her adult friend or let down her 10 year old daughter who would have to miss out on something with her friends to give your son a good bday.

Do you really need 8 people? As long as you're paying 8 people? If so could you not ask a cousin? Someone else to bring a cousin or friend?

I feel bad for you, but i also can see why she made the decision she did.

Oddsocksanduglyshoes · 19/05/2025 22:33

Secondchoice2 · 19/05/2025 18:52

I didn’t do the school run today. DH went. I cannot avoid it tomorrow though ☹️.

Thinking of you that must be incredibly stressful :(

Tbrh · 19/05/2025 22:59

I'm feeling for you OP, I think you should prepare what you want to say (if anything), and get it over with. The more you avoid her, the bigger it will feel.

AliceMcK · 19/05/2025 23:01

AthWat · 18/05/2025 14:42

I’d normally never let my DDs back out of a commitment, but I honestly don’t know what I’d do if my dd was desperate to be included else where.

If you're going to be honest and not stand firmly on your high horse like a lot of contributors to this thread, you probably do know what you'd do. If your daughter was saying "I know you told me I ought to go to Xs party because he hasnt got many friends, but now Y is having a party and everyone will be there and I really, really want to go" then you'd let her go to Ys, not drag her along to X's to be a reluctant and sullen participant, at best, in something she never really wanted to go to in the first place.
If she did get forced to go to Xs that could, quite easily, be the end of any friendship there is as she would resent him for "making her be there".

Wow who crawled up your arse!

there is no need for such a response, whose standing on their high horse, Im certainly not, I was very honest, in this particular situation I’m not sure what I’d do that is best for my child, because it’s only my child that’s my priority at the end of the day. I’d love to be whole holier than though about commitments and priorities but every situation is different, which is clearly what I was saying!