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Why is Alice Evans Gruffudd homeless?

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Englishsummerblues · 14/05/2025 23:19

Doesn’t she have any famous friends? Where has all her money gone? Does she have to live in L.A? It just all seems bizarre, just move somewhere cheaper.

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babymamalove · 16/05/2025 01:14

Can someone explain to me how this woman has custody of the children? Surely there is enough evidence of her behaviour that proves she is an unfit parent?

TheHerboriste · 16/05/2025 02:22

Arraminta · 15/05/2025 18:46

When all of this started, I remember reading an interview with one of Ioan's best friends since school. He said that Alice issued an ultimatum to make Ioan marry her, and that he had cold feet before the wedding, but didn't know how to get out of it. None of his friends wanted him to marry Alice, she was described as being 'a nasty tempered bully'. And reading between the lines, Ioan was a bit of a pushover and easily dominated by Alice. Apparently his parents pleased with him to not marry her?

I think all through their relationship Alice ruled him with a rod of iron and revelled in it. When he finally escaped I think she went berserk because she no longer had control. And control is everything to Alice. Everything.

I genuinely believe she is fully prepared to burn down her own life and her daughters' lives if that means that Ioan's new (happy) life will burn down too. She has that classic 'family annihilation' mentality.

What an utter wimp he must be, if even a fraction of this is true.

TheHerboriste · 16/05/2025 02:36

I’ve loosely followed this saga.
It’s strange that she won’t get a job.

steff13 · 16/05/2025 02:56

babymamalove · 16/05/2025 01:14

Can someone explain to me how this woman has custody of the children? Surely there is enough evidence of her behaviour that proves she is an unfit parent?

There's an attorney on YouTube who was talking about this case and she was explaining California custody laws. I'm getting ready to go to bed but I will see if I can remember her name.

InterIgnis · 16/05/2025 04:03

I believe the custody battle is still ongoing. Courts can move extremely slowly.

It’s a complex case that involves clear parental alienation, but it is mind boggling that she still has sole physical and legal custody of them.

Why is Alice Evans Gruffudd homeless?
Why is Alice Evans Gruffudd homeless?
Notatallanamechange · 16/05/2025 05:26

TheHerboriste · 16/05/2025 02:22

What an utter wimp he must be, if even a fraction of this is true.

Bet you wouldn’t say that about a female abuse victim. Disgusting.

Tomatotater · 16/05/2025 06:14

babymamalove · 16/05/2025 01:14

Can someone explain to me how this woman has custody of the children? Surely there is enough evidence of her behaviour that proves she is an unfit parent?

It seemscshevhas alienated them from the father so they don't want to have to place them in care if they refuse to stay with him. Also, because a lot of celeb kids have nannies to care for them, social services have other priorities, as a responsible adult is in charge. Remember the ' Primrose Hill set'? I think it was a then 2 year old Iris Law who swallowed Ecstasy at a kids party thrown by Pearl Lowe, who was a Heroin addict? None of their kids were taken away.

Willyoujustbequiet · 16/05/2025 07:09

YellowDuster12 · 15/05/2025 10:19

Parental alienation is really hard, the kids are fed and clothed, which means they're not a priority for CPS to remove. Sadly even though Alice is abusive, removing them from her (and they can no longer safely be around their father) at this point would cause them even more harm. There is no evidence she has assaulted them (she has assaulted Ioan), there are transcripts of audio recordings where she has verbally abused them. Even in the UK I doubt what's happening with the girls would meet the threshold for removal into foster care.

Parental alienation is harmful pseudo-science and was invented by a discredited psych as a court defence for a paedophile. Gardener then committed suicide.

It's now recognised as a tool for abusers to continue their abuse and to silence their victims.

It's internationally condemned and new court guidance issued following reports by the Family Justice Council last year.

Claims of parental alienation raise a red flag.

MereNoelle · 16/05/2025 07:29

Willyoujustbequiet · 16/05/2025 07:09

Parental alienation is harmful pseudo-science and was invented by a discredited psych as a court defence for a paedophile. Gardener then committed suicide.

It's now recognised as a tool for abusers to continue their abuse and to silence their victims.

It's internationally condemned and new court guidance issued following reports by the Family Justice Council last year.

Claims of parental alienation raise a red flag.

Are you saying that there are no cases in which one parent deliberately harms their children’s bond with the other parent?

Willyoujustbequiet · 16/05/2025 07:33

MereNoelle · 16/05/2025 07:29

Are you saying that there are no cases in which one parent deliberately harms their children’s bond with the other parent?

The Family Justice Council stated that genuine cases are rare. That's why new guidance has been issued.

MereNoelle · 16/05/2025 07:38

It’s also rare for men to be victims of domestic violence, but Ioan was.

prh47bridge · 16/05/2025 07:44

I'm not sure how Gardner's suicide is relevant. What has been rejected is parental alienation syndrome. This is not recognised by any mental health organisations. However, it is accepted that alienating behaviours by a parent are common in situations such as custody battles. It is true that sometimes a parent will cause their child to become estranged through their own actions and then claim parental alienation, so the courts, at least in the UK, are cautious about accepting such claims. However, it clearly happens sometimes. The fact it is rare does not mean it never happens.

In this case, there is abundant evidence of Alice's attempts to turn the children against Ioan, starting from well before the marriage broke up.

MoominUnderWater · 16/05/2025 07:45

Her own social media posts in the past have demonstrated she’s being alienating the kids from him. I’m pretty sure I remember a post from years ago where she said if the courts made the kids have contact with him she’d told the kids to make allegations of abuse against him and then they wouldn’t have to go back. She certainly used to post blind drunk in the early hours and say all sorts of incriminating stuff and often delete the next day. The tattle threads were eye opening with lots of screenshots.

CarolineBaggette · 16/05/2025 07:49

She deletes anything suggesting she should stop what she’s doing and blocks the person who said it. I know for a fact because she blocked me for commenting she’d be better off out of LA.

DaisyChain505 · 16/05/2025 08:26

Willyoujustbequiet · 16/05/2025 07:09

Parental alienation is harmful pseudo-science and was invented by a discredited psych as a court defence for a paedophile. Gardener then committed suicide.

It's now recognised as a tool for abusers to continue their abuse and to silence their victims.

It's internationally condemned and new court guidance issued following reports by the Family Justice Council last year.

Claims of parental alienation raise a red flag.

Parental alienation is 100% real and I’ve watched it happen with my own eyes.

Just because someone in the past who claimed it turned out to be a bad person doesn’t mean that it isn’t real.

CarolineBaggette · 16/05/2025 08:27

The woman is a disgrace and he’s not much better. He hasn’t applied for custody of those girls even though he knows they are in a very disturbing situation with an unstable mother. He doesn’t want it. It appears the grandparents and uncles/aunts have abandoned them too. Nobody can deal with her but it’s been dragging on for so long. Alice clearly cannot cope at all and you can see why he left but having left, he could have kept his new relationship out of the spotlight. People do.

DaisyChain505 · 16/05/2025 08:28

Anyone who would like to get a professional yet easily understandable view on the whole topic should YouTube Andrea Burkhart. She is a lawyer who has done a few videos on the whole situation.

ConcernedOfClapham · 16/05/2025 08:28

Who is she?

Willyoujustbequiet · 16/05/2025 08:34

DaisyChain505 · 16/05/2025 08:26

Parental alienation is 100% real and I’ve watched it happen with my own eyes.

Just because someone in the past who claimed it turned out to be a bad person doesn’t mean that it isn’t real.

The majority of people who claim it are abusers themselves. It was literally invented as a defence for a child sex abuser. That's why it's discredited.

Genuine cases are rare and must be concluded by a court based on the weight of evidence not personal opinion.

DaisyChain505 · 16/05/2025 08:35

CarolineBaggette · 16/05/2025 08:27

The woman is a disgrace and he’s not much better. He hasn’t applied for custody of those girls even though he knows they are in a very disturbing situation with an unstable mother. He doesn’t want it. It appears the grandparents and uncles/aunts have abandoned them too. Nobody can deal with her but it’s been dragging on for so long. Alice clearly cannot cope at all and you can see why he left but having left, he could have kept his new relationship out of the spotlight. People do.

He was keeping his relationship out of the spotlight. If you had read the court documents you would know that Alice found out about them and said she was going to release the information to the public to hurt his image which forced his hand to going public with the relationship earlier than he wanted to.

Again, if you had actually read the court documents you would know that he’s spent hundreds of thousands of pounds fighting for the girls. He got court ordered therapy sorted for them yet Alice would either refuse to take them to their sessions or would walk in and interrupt them or throw herself on the floor and demand ambulances. (All proof in the legal documents)

Any time he did manage to see the girls he paid for a professional chaperone because Alice would set the girls up to trash his apartment and record their visits. He was doing everything by the book and trying his hardest.

There are no Grandparents or close family on the scene because most of Alice’s family have cut her off (I wonder why!) and she alienated Ioans parents from the family.

Ioan tried his hardest to stay in the girls lives but when they had their mum spewing vicious lies in their ears constantly it was only going to go one way. What was he meant to do, live alone in a cave until the girls decided to change their minds?

These situations are never ideal but he deserves to try and find what happiness he can whilst the relationship with the girls is out of his hands.

If you had actually read the court documents and knew the facts your opinion would be a lot different.

DaisyChain505 · 16/05/2025 08:38

Willyoujustbequiet · 16/05/2025 08:34

The majority of people who claim it are abusers themselves. It was literally invented as a defence for a child sex abuser. That's why it's discredited.

Genuine cases are rare and must be concluded by a court based on the weight of evidence not personal opinion.

It’s a huge stretch to say that the majority of people claiming parental alienation are abusers.

It is extremely common for a parent to be bitter and scorned by a relationship breaking down and to put their negative feelings towards the other parent before their feelings for the child and their relationship with the other parent first.

I’ve witnessed first hand a child be alienated and how the parent doing it would lie and manipulate things so they could “keep the child for themselves”

Foolsgold74 · 16/05/2025 08:52

I've also witnessed a father claim to the world that his ex wife was alienating the daughter in particular against him, that the daughter was a "bitch" and that he was doing everything to maintain a relationship with the kids. He was deeply plausible, charismatic, rich, successful, handsome and likeable, so was utterly believed. The reality was that he was a nasty piece of work, abusive, a liar and cheat, vengeful and had lived a double life for 20 plus years. It's hard to know the truth without being on the inside.

Foolsgold74 · 16/05/2025 08:56

ConcernedOfClapham · 16/05/2025 08:28

Who is she?

This has been answered several times already. Plus...Google. I suspect this isn't a genuine question.

KimberleyClark · 16/05/2025 08:58

Foolsgold74 · 16/05/2025 08:52

I've also witnessed a father claim to the world that his ex wife was alienating the daughter in particular against him, that the daughter was a "bitch" and that he was doing everything to maintain a relationship with the kids. He was deeply plausible, charismatic, rich, successful, handsome and likeable, so was utterly believed. The reality was that he was a nasty piece of work, abusive, a liar and cheat, vengeful and had lived a double life for 20 plus years. It's hard to know the truth without being on the inside.

There is evidence in the court documents that does come from the inside.

DaisyChain505 · 16/05/2025 09:07

Foolsgold74 · 16/05/2025 08:52

I've also witnessed a father claim to the world that his ex wife was alienating the daughter in particular against him, that the daughter was a "bitch" and that he was doing everything to maintain a relationship with the kids. He was deeply plausible, charismatic, rich, successful, handsome and likeable, so was utterly believed. The reality was that he was a nasty piece of work, abusive, a liar and cheat, vengeful and had lived a double life for 20 plus years. It's hard to know the truth without being on the inside.

There is evidence from the children’s therapist to say Alice would either not turn up to therapy sessions, or bring them and then storm in arguing or actually throw herself on the floor and demand an ambulance. All in the name of stopping the therapy.

There is evidence from the professional chaperone who would accompany ioan when he had the children that states they would run around his house pouring milk on his bed and writing slurs in mustard in his kitchen.

He knew that if he was ever alone with the children Alice would claim sinister things so he did everything by the book.

There is also video and audio recording taken by the children where Alice tells them to “Back her up or fuck off.” and also not to worry as “Mummy would find them a new Daddy soon.”

In the latest court documents there is video evidence of Alice offering the children cocaine shown in one of the girls FaceTiming their dad and text messages from the girls saying Alice had left the door open for her drug dealer.

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