DH won't let daughter go on school trip to mosque

[RealUmberAnt]

I'm shocked and appalled!! He (M41)says he doesn't want her (DD12) learning about people who marry there daughters off at 9 years old and all their women are oppressed and forced to cover up and do as their told!

I feel like he's taring all Muslims with the same brush and it's good to learn about other religions and see other places of worship!

I'm so mad!! I honestly don't think I can stay with someone who has these opinions!!

This is not necessarily a religious issue so much as a cultural one in some parts of the world, especially underdeveloped countries.

And look at some of the Christian cults in the USA who were making young girls marry their leaders, the Sugars where the girls were basically household maids and nannies, with restrict on clothes, privacy, significant corporal punishment, segregation from the outside world etc.

I don't think what a high level of unconscious bias you are viewing this through.

You don't think Islam is a religion?

This is bullshit.

How would it be good for social cohesion? It comes across as a criticism of their religion which isn't likely to be very welcome.

I hope these talks are going to include all faiths and cultures as otherwise it comes across as singling people out.

No. It's a political ideology.

The Qur'an is a political text?

The Muslim religion follows the Quran. Islam is different kettle of fish.

Well to be honest in the Batley area in West Yorkshire one of the primary schools organised a trip to a both mosque and a church for the pupils to promote understanding of other faiths.

The trip to the mosque was first. All went well and the children were told lots about Islam.

The subsequent trip to the church did not happen because the parents of the Muslim children refused point blank to allow their children to enter the church.

It certainly taught the other parents and children something about Islam but perhaps not quite what was intended.

I doubt they'll be many Mumsnetters saying those parents are a disgrace and racist for their narrow minded stance and views on Christianity though.

Islam is the name of the religion. A follower is called a Muslim.

It's the same at my daughter's school. They had an Eid party where children were invited to come into to school wearing sparkly party clothes. Yet I notice at the school Christmas play, the Muslim children are absent and not taking part.

Well technically. I don't know where in the Quran though that it states women should be covered at all times to the eye balls. It's essentially been hijacked by misogynistic men.

There is a lot of interplay between all world religions and politics. They are still religions.

In my opinion, no.

How people practice their religion is of course influenced by their culture. E.g. in some Catholic countries women wear a veil to mass but that is very rare here.
Some Muslim women cover their heads, some do not, some follow varying degrees of modest dress.
Some Christian groups follow certain dress codes (the craziness of the evangelical trad wife movement), whereas in my local churches people will wear jeans and jumper.
This does not mean they are not religions.

Come out from under that rock. It's nice out here.

Well that's even worse then! Unless they're telling men to do the same it's utterly disgusting.

Ah, well make sure you let all of world leaders and religious leaders know love, because I don't think they are aware you have declared this.

Some world leaders think women can have a penis so I'd be better off having a conversation with a block of lard.

You're Fartage's number 1 groupie aren't you.

I've worked in schools for over a decade and never had Muslim, Sikh or Hindu parents refuse permission for their child to take part in a Church visit. Sadly, have had a few racist twats like OP's DH kick off about trips to the Gurdwara or Mosque over the years, but not many.

OP, I can tell you from experience that kids who hear this ignorant crap being spouted at home often repeat it in school! You need to tell your DD point blank that her Dad is wrong on this and make sure she goes on this trip.

Oh I can't be arsed dumbing down my thoughts process enough to engage with you.

Not just technically. That's the name of the religion.

I often wonder how people marry people without knowing what they are like. I would feel like my vetting proceeds was useless if I accidentally married a bigot.

Ignore your husband, send your daughter on the trip.

(This reminds me of a mate of mine who is always whining about how racist and homophobic is ex wife is and how he does not want her passing her views to their kids. I always tell him “well you chose to marry her and have kids with her.”)