Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Evil MIL

280 replies

Warmsunnyday1 · 13/05/2025 00:58

Who has one? I do, shes a horrid narcissist who can see no wrong in her actions, she falls out with everyone, of course its never her fault, always everyone else,the poor woman. She doesn’t speak to her son or myself anymore because i dared to call her daughter out for speaking to me like I was absolutely nothing, i mean how dare I, should have just sat back and taken all the abuse like a good little DIL. Why are they so nuts?

OP posts:
Warmsunnyday1 · 14/05/2025 12:05

Icanttakeanymore1 · 14/05/2025 09:46

Yes in our case. SIL (mid-40s) has always lived at home and is absolute poison.

SIL hates the GC and has now ruined all relationships with grandparents.

Edited

My SIL is the same, always lived home and complete poison.

OP posts:
Warmsunnyday1 · 14/05/2025 13:17

TammyJones · 14/05/2025 08:45

Yes thank you.
I lost my mum as a teen.
so wanted a good relationship with mil.
everyone warned me but I tried so hard.
sometimes We’d get on great , but she was quite unpredictable-
I’d never met anyone like this before

but she’d sent great long letters (which I can’t really remember what she said) all before the internet.
I got to the stage of read then in the bin. I did get so cross I actually replied to one - let her have both barrels. I was told by sil that I wasn’t my usual (people pleasing self) and I didn’t mean it. (I did)
The day my dh Finally told her , to her face ‘Enough’ I could have applauded.
as the years went on firm boundaries were put in place.
mil could be lovely, but also manipulative, attention seeking, drama queen , liar, woe is me and completely unaware of any self reflection.
she also alienated people / family.
she’s been dead a few years now and sadly sil is trying her hardest to take her place.
I’m not sure if I should reach out or not.
sil is giving us all the silent treatment because, (we think) we have denied her some money from the will.
it is only a few thousand that was ear marked for my dh, but she wants it as she says it was her dm.
we’ve Kept it safe fir dad / fil and have been using it to refit the bathroom/ walk-in shower.
once dad passes we will split whatever is left with her…..: but that’s not good enough as she has needs (holidays ) now.

I think when you have lost your own parent, a good relationship with your in-laws is just so much more important to you, and the disappointment when things dont work out is so much greater than if you did have your own mother for example, because you would still have love and support and your children would still at least have one decent grandmother. Im pretty sure my mother would be scrambling out of her grave to save me if she could 😅 x sorry about your SIL, if you think she is going the same way as your MIL, I would not reach out. Of course it would be nice to have adult conversations and build bridges, but unfortunately some people just can’t do that xx

OP posts:
Someone2025 · 14/05/2025 13:52

Warmsunnyday1 · 14/05/2025 13:17

I think when you have lost your own parent, a good relationship with your in-laws is just so much more important to you, and the disappointment when things dont work out is so much greater than if you did have your own mother for example, because you would still have love and support and your children would still at least have one decent grandmother. Im pretty sure my mother would be scrambling out of her grave to save me if she could 😅 x sorry about your SIL, if you think she is going the same way as your MIL, I would not reach out. Of course it would be nice to have adult conversations and build bridges, but unfortunately some people just can’t do that xx

My advice for anyone would be to have infrequent contact with in laws and for short durations of time, then you can remain on friendly terms
I’ve seen these types of relationships go wrong too many times, let your spouse mainly deal with his family and you yours, familiarity breeds contempt

Warmsunnyday1 · 14/05/2025 14:25

Someone2025 · 14/05/2025 13:52

My advice for anyone would be to have infrequent contact with in laws and for short durations of time, then you can remain on friendly terms
I’ve seen these types of relationships go wrong too many times, let your spouse mainly deal with his family and you yours, familiarity breeds contempt

Excellent advice, do not get involved 😂

OP posts:
Warmsunnyday1 · 14/05/2025 15:25

lifeisgoodrightnow · 13/05/2025 12:37

I had one of these MILs and I so desperately wanted to have a good relationship with her as my mum is gone ( when I was 10). She just used my vulnerability against me.

Examples include : asking for photos on our wedding day of just my DH and her family in case we split up; suggesting ( after 4 kids inc a set of twins ) that I get sterilised - my husband shouldn’t have a vasectomy in case he wants more children with someone else down the line; when we’d been married 25 still trying to fix him up with old high school girlfriends as he could ‘do better’; calling me DH ‘wife I SUPPOSE ‘ at our 20 th wedding anniversary to her friend ( who was horrified) ; lying to the DVLA so she could keep driving despite knowing she had blackout risks, telling everyone I was 50 when she knew full well I was 49 so I was inundated with 50 cards and she thought that was funny and on and on.

she’s dead now and none of us miss her at all. And it could and should have been so different.

solidarity OP x

She sounds absolutely terrible xx

OP posts:
TammyJones · 14/05/2025 15:50

Warmsunnyday1 · 14/05/2025 13:17

I think when you have lost your own parent, a good relationship with your in-laws is just so much more important to you, and the disappointment when things dont work out is so much greater than if you did have your own mother for example, because you would still have love and support and your children would still at least have one decent grandmother. Im pretty sure my mother would be scrambling out of her grave to save me if she could 😅 x sorry about your SIL, if you think she is going the same way as your MIL, I would not reach out. Of course it would be nice to have adult conversations and build bridges, but unfortunately some people just can’t do that xx

Actually that brought tears to my eyes- my mum would have so loved the grandchildren, she never met…..I don’t tend to think about it much now , she’s been gone well over 40 years now.
But you are right I did try harder with mil, even organising visits when dh would rather not.
We’d been half way there and I’d be asking why dh was in such a grumpy mood…
It all seems so silly - he was a 40 year old man, and he didn’t like me leaving the room if mil was there.
My dm was so different
everyone loved her
I like to think she’s watching over us all those 💖

Facescar77 · 14/05/2025 18:20

My MIL is wonderful! It's my husband that got the MIL from hell!

Greenthing67 · 14/05/2025 18:27

My ex mil threatened to attack me several times. Stood by her son when she found out he hit me. Screamed abuse at me in a children's library. Refused to listen to my concerns about how she is round my child. Won't get adaptions done for her home where her son lives as my child has disabilities. Allows family members to make racist comments about my partner. Got very upset when the police visited her and told her to behave herself. Has not seen the child now for almost a year because they can't remember how the child fell over 3 times in 10 minutes.

restingbitchface30 · 14/05/2025 18:28

Mines a narc. Cut contact a year ago, it’s been bliss! Mine would wait until no one was in ear shot and make nasty comments to me. She was rude to my children from a previous relationship. She undermined my parenting constantly. She would praise her son as a parent but criticise me any chance she got. She would comment of my weight. She told me I was wrong to leave my very abusive ex because we had kids, I should have stayed for them. She’s just vile!

FlakyCritic · 14/05/2025 18:33

LeaveALittleNote · 13/05/2025 01:10

I’m jealous that you don’t need to speak to her anymore. My MIL comes to stay all the time and I absolutely detest her.

Sorry but more fool you for having her stay over so much. Put your big woman panties on and say no. There are no prizes for being a martyr and suffering all that often.

FlakyCritic · 14/05/2025 18:40

grapesandmelon · 13/05/2025 10:43

Maybe, but from my own friends experience, the narcissistic DIL would spout shit like this thread all the time to make herself a victim of the "Evil MIL" when it was entirely the other way round. The DIL would make an issue of every tiny thing. Too many phone calls/visits? Interfering MIL. So MIL backs off...MIL doesn't put any effort in and favourites other DC/DGC. MIL asks about DILs life ... Sticks her nose in. Doesn't ask about DILs life ... MIL doesn't care.

I've seen the damage it did to the MIL who has a DIL always playing the victim so I absolutely hate these threads with a passion as I rarely believe the "poor innocent DIL" perspective. Especially when there are no real examples of wrongdoing on the MILs part and it's all wishy-washy "she's unkind" stuff.

You sound like an abusive and narcissistic MIL who is determined to paint MILs as innocent victims and gaslight and DARVO DILs.

1543click · 14/05/2025 18:45

MIL are just people. Some are lovely ,some are not
DIlL are just people . Some are lovely , some are not.

Lizziespring · 14/05/2025 18:52

I'm now longing for my son to get married asap so I can identify on here how much my (imaginary) new DIL loathes me.

lifeisgoodrightnow · 14/05/2025 18:56

Lizziespring · 14/05/2025 18:52

I'm now longing for my son to get married asap so I can identify on here how much my (imaginary) new DIL loathes me.

Most of us just wanted to be accepted by our MILs I tried really hard with my MIL . I was even with her when she died and battled to make sure she got the right care in the nhs right to the end. It doesn’t change how much she mistreated me.

My DH and DSIL and DBIL were incredible and stood up to her which just made her double down bad get worse as she aged .

Iamgettingolderandgrumpier · 14/05/2025 19:05

I am a MIL but get on really well with my DCs partners but my own ILs were hard work. I am married to the least favourite son and don’t we know it. They have always treated us + our DC very differently to favoured son + partners (had a few with dc to them all and they are all favoured over my DC). They were very demanding, expecting us to spend all holidays with them (yes, I do have a family but that didn’t matter.) Anything that went wrong or if we decided to do something different to that they wanted us to do, was because of me. MIL used to say that quote, ‘daughter is a daughter all her life, a son is a son until he takes a wife’ all the time to me. Luckily, my DH recognised them for what they are and has been NC for many years. I have never demanded anything off my DC and families but happily, they enjoy visiting and spending holidays etc with us.

Nikki75 · 14/05/2025 19:30

Both my sons have lovely girlfriends, I'd always make sure I have good positive and supportive caring relationships with them.. I had a pain the backside mil once .. I couldnt put up with that again weird how they become so jealous.

laraitopbanana · 14/05/2025 19:44

goody2shooz · 13/05/2025 10:04

@Warmsunnyday1 and @Mistyglade if they behave like that I wouldn’t expose my child to her.

That.

histories repeat in more than one way…if someone is unhealthy, keep your child away from them.

I am not sure when the « before » is but surely horrible MILS/family members have always been around. People got on with it and knew to create stronger relations with the ones actually nice. Nowadays…we hear so much about families that only have these sick members left…sad really.

laraitopbanana · 14/05/2025 19:46

Nikki75 · 14/05/2025 19:30

Both my sons have lovely girlfriends, I'd always make sure I have good positive and supportive caring relationships with them.. I had a pain the backside mil once .. I couldnt put up with that again weird how they become so jealous.

Nicely done!

any tip? I am far away from it but it is good to always keep learning as early as possible!

MaddestGranny · 14/05/2025 20:06

dear @LeaveALittleNote, your MN name is very appropriate given your circumstances. In your shoes I would not respond when she says those nasty things in her son's/your DH's absence. However, as soon as possible afterwards, make a note & date it (as verbatim as poss) of what was said. Let them build up for a while. When it seems the right time to do so, share them with DH and explain that you wanted to have actual examples, so that he wouldn't think you were being whiny or flaky.

grapesandmelon · 14/05/2025 20:25

FlakyCritic · 14/05/2025 18:40

You sound like an abusive and narcissistic MIL who is determined to paint MILs as innocent victims and gaslight and DARVO DILs.

And you sound like you haven't bothered to read the thread!

As I've said previously, it's not at all limited to MILs. It's anyone who uses SM to do the "woe is me" speech or the "they hate me cuz I speak the truth" SM rant that is the usual indicator as to who is the real perpetrator.

madmeg1952 · 14/05/2025 20:39

I really don't understand why some MILs behave so badly. I think I'm an okay MIL to my two SILs. So long as they are decent fellas/hubbies/dads and treat their own parents well, what's any better? Not my business if they aren't quite what I had hoped in a SIL, what matters is are my DDs happy with them? And they seem to be.

I've learnt there are some topics to avoid, some opinions to keep to myself (actually I find this quite hard so sometimes make a joke out of it, seems to work okay) - and a great plus is that we get on well with our DDs in-laws too.

Maybe I'm just lucky? I think I was an okay DIL too. But I do know others (MILs as well as DILs and SILs) who do have problems., usually cos at least one of them either interferes too much or imposes their views on their marriage/child-rearing. Again, not my business.

FlakyCritic · 14/05/2025 20:43

grapesandmelon · 14/05/2025 20:25

And you sound like you haven't bothered to read the thread!

As I've said previously, it's not at all limited to MILs. It's anyone who uses SM to do the "woe is me" speech or the "they hate me cuz I speak the truth" SM rant that is the usual indicator as to who is the real perpetrator.

There is no indication the OP has ever posted on SM about this.

You insinuated the OP was lying. The OP detailed a couple of horrific things her MIL did. You didn't even have the decency to reply to her and say sorry.

MaddestGranny · 14/05/2025 20:46

Occasionally, y'know, things can eventually go right:
My beloved & only DD had "kissed a few frogs", as they say, before she found & married her DH, who must be at least one of the best SILs in the world.

I've been welcomed into his family; now spend every 2nd Christmas with his parents; had a wonderful, welcoming time at his sister's very relaxed wedding.
This is all in contrast with my own experience of growing up with GPs on both sides, spurning and/or mistreating both of my parents. Undeservedly.

So that, from early teens, I had no family left at all except for my widowed mother. It was all very sad, messy & lonely.

That my DD now has an extended family who, though with their own problems, manage to get on & are committed to being a family, is a revelation and a joy to me. I'm delighted to be a MIL to my wonderful SIL. I'm very grateful to him for a) accepting me into his heart & into his family, and b) for relieving me of the worry that, when I die, I'd be leaving my DD alone in all the world. That won't happen now.

Mere1 · 14/05/2025 20:49

LeaveALittleNote · 13/05/2025 01:10

I’m jealous that you don’t need to speak to her anymore. My MIL comes to stay all the time and I absolutely detest her.

My mother in law died really young, early in our relationship. My husband has never got over it. Try harder to get along.

Smelltherain · 14/05/2025 20:52

I had an awful one too , controlling, manipulative, jealous and because I cut ties of course I'm the bad one , how could I upset the poor woman who could do no wrong. I sympathise with you , they are evil !!

Swipe left for the next trending thread