To think forced starvation is just plain evil!

[Farticus101]

On the BBC today. The UN has condemned using man made starvation as a war tactic. Surely we can come to a general consensus that whatever you think about the conflict, Israel's actions here are just plain evil?

www.theguardian.com/world/2025/may/11/there-is-suffering-everywhere-you-look-says-mother-of-emaciated-baby-girl-trapped-in-gaza

I agree. I do wonder what it will take for it all to end.

You think Hamas aren’t an Army?

You mean large numbers of Jews being killed for being Jewish?

October 7th hardly happened out of nowhere.

What happened before October 7th that in your opinion justifies the murder of over 1200 people in one single day, plus rape, plus hostage taking?

Goodness me you like your pointless melodramatic statements don’t you.

Recognising that a more peaceful approach is for a war to end and there to be a victor than the continuation of fighting, is not disgusting.

Out of interest how would you like it to all end?

People expect the armies of civilised 1st world countries not to commit war crimes. Hamas is a terrorist organisation and they have behaved like terrorists. People expect behaviour in accordance with international law from the IDF particularly as it has previously been described as 'the most moral army in the world'.

No she didn’t.

Ill ask you, seeing as only one person had answered so far - what do you think will happen if Israel is disarmed?

And yet people have voted to a very direct question.

No one is forced to vote. If they vote they believe one way or the other.
21% believe the starvation of civilians is not evil.
Thankfully 79% believe it is evil

If some are unsure, as the question may be more far reaching, then they can decide not to vote and discuss instead.
If mumsnetters are voting they have made their decision.

This thread would have been interesting had it not been about Israel and Gaza.
I wonder then what the %s would be ?

Israel is Jewish homeland, stolen from them - or have we forgotten that?

The defence is on the fact that neighbouring countries want Jews obliterated. HTH.

Ill ask you - what do you think would happen if Israel laid down its arms?

I’m on a thread about the evils of starving civilians

They have not won. A powerful wealthy and well resourced terrorist organisation is operating next door to them, with the key aim of exterminating all Jews. That’s not winning until the power is taken away from them or they all hopefully die.

Then the responses would be “We need more than that OP”.

The assumption that everyone who’ve voted YABU must love starving children is very odd and obtuse indeed

What a shock, people don’t want to be honest about what would happen to Israel if it stopped defending itself.

Youd be on a thread about “Remember when there were Jews in the world” if that happened FWIW.

I know Hamas are not an army. It’s not a question of think.

Jews and Israel are not the same thing, why are you conflating them?

What are they then? A social club?

Or perhaps it was a childish, loaded question.

If the only Jewish state (the very existence of which really seems to upset people despite the fact other religions have dozens of their own states) is obliterated, it’s only a matter of time before Jews elsewhere were also taken out - and u like now they’d have nowhere to go, no haven if Holocaust 2.0 reared its ugly head - and don’t say it wouldn’t happen. Antisemtism is rising rapidly the world over. People are simply teeming for an excuse to murder Jews.

Are you implying in this post that I am blaming ‘Jews’ for October 7th and therefore that I am an antisemite? Because that’s what it looks like and that is libel. You’d better ask to get it taken down.

Probably because the stated aim of Hamas, in their founding charter and never repudiated, is to kill all Jews. Not Israelis - Jews.

I won’t ask it to get taken down. Maybe you should ask to get your disgusting justification down if the murder and rape of women and murder of babies and toddlers?

You’re blaming someone for October 7th though - who?
Whose fault is it?

Try answering without making a melodramatic punchy statement

It’s a terrorist organisation as you know full well. That is not an army. Armies are MEANT to abide by the rules of war and within international law.

What exactly is your point? Do you think Hamas are defending their children?
Why did they launch the October 7th attack then, didn’t they think there might be consequences? Did October 7th make their and their children’s lives safer?

So you are standing by the fact that you have accused me of blaming Jews for October 7th? think carefully about that.