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Friend becoming overbearing

298 replies

DontReplyIWillLie · 10/05/2025 08:45

And not just with me, which is the main issue…

I have a friend, Daisy, who I’ve known for a few years through a hobby. She’s a very nice, kind woman, but she does tend to go overboard on texts, that are largely about nothing. She’s an early riser too, so when my alarm goes off and I barely know where or even who I am, the first thing I see is “Good morning Don’t. Today looks like it will be a lovely day. The sun is already shining. I may take a walk in the park” or similar. Sometimes I don’t remember to reply when I’ve woken up properly, but I must admit that sometimes I just don’t bother, as there’s no question to answer or anything that really requires a reaction. I was hoping this might discourage her from the daily bulletin.

Anyway, she picked up on it and I got this long text saying “I have noticed that sometimes I text you and you do not reply. Please let me know if I have offended you somehow and should not be texting you anymore”. I bit the bullet and said that sometimes I just forget because I see the messages when I’m barely awake, and that sometimes I don’t think something needs a reply if there isn’t a question or something specific to say. She was a bit bewildered about the first part - she was saying “But surely you turn your phone off at night, so you don’t see any messages until you switch it on and can check them?” - but she seemed to have got that I’m not trying to upset her; I just don’t need a text for everything.

However, this communication overdose has now spread to my other friends; people she only knows through me. I ran into a friend, Carol, who I hadn’t seen in ages while on my way to meet Daisy and invited her to join us for a drink. They got on well and swapped numbers, because they share a common interest. Barely a fortnight later Daisy messaged me saying “Have you heard from Carol? Is she okay? I’ve messaged her three times this week and she hasn’t responded”. I was taken aback, and I did say maybe it was a bit much. (I’ve known Carol for years and I probably only hear from her every few weeks or so.) I asked Carol the next time I spoke to her and she awkwardly said that she’d found it a bit odd; she’d really only expected to share a couple of links and so on.

This wasn’t the only time. Another friend runs a bar; I took Daisy in for a drink and we chatted to him while it was quiet. The next time I saw him he said, “Bloody hell, that Daisy’s a bit much, isn’t she? She’s messaged three times asking when she can bring me some cakes! I don’t even know her!” I had no idea she’d even asked for his number.

Anyway, it’s my birthday coming up. I usually go away for it with another friend, as hers is a few days earlier, but we’re not doing that this year. The question is, do I invite Daisy on my birthday night out? I just have visions of her wanting to swap numbers with all my other friends and then chasing them wanting to know why they haven’t replied today, when can she bake them a cake etc.. I really don’t fancy having my friends all complaining to me that they’re being bombarded by someone they barely know.

Do I just not ask her? She doesn’t do social media (part of the reason she always wants to swap numbers - she can’t just add people on Facebook or whatever) so it’s not like she’d see pictures and find out. Or am I being mean?

OP posts:
Delphiniumandlupins · 10/05/2025 11:25

You need to remind Daisy that she should match the other person's energy in her friendships. It's lovely she is open and friendly but if she sends a text she should wait for a response before sending another. If the response is 3 days later she should not bounce back another message immediately. Is she any better with social cues face-to-face? Most people don't want/expect to build close friendships with every person they meet.

DinaofCloud9 · 10/05/2025 11:26

Funny how some of these posters berating the OP for being horrible sound nastier than the OP.

MissDoubleU · 10/05/2025 11:26

Look, I’m autistic. I’ve been the daisy before. I’ll admit that. I’ve also had my own daisy or two! So I feel a unique authority on the matter.

You aren’t being unkind at all. Your birthday should be spent how you wish, with people you want there who will mix well with the vibe you’re setting. If Daisy is too intense for this setting, that’s fine. You don’t have to invite everyone and mix every different circle. Similarly, you’re 100% correct when you say you’re not responsible for her happiness or managing her friendship expectations. You sat your own boundaries. If she’s upset or disappointed at lack of contact kindly reassuring her that you just aren’t that kind of frequent texted but you look forward to hanging out next time. She will get the message.

Again, ignore Pp. you’ve done nothing wrong. It’s a hard situation when you actually do like the person but just need a little distance and free time.

Anxioustealady · 10/05/2025 11:30

I would hate this, it would feel like harassment to me. It really winds me up when you don't respond to someone immediately to something that can wait, and they send "????"

I'm introverted, and I would find it really stressful someone chasing me all the time to chat, and I don't see why people like me should have to put up with something like that to "be kind".

DontReplyIWillLie · 10/05/2025 11:31

As for messages really early in the morning, well i don't take my phone into the bedroom with me and don't look at it till I've had my coffee. That's your responsibility, not hers.

And you not having your phone in the bedroom and not looking at it until you’ve had your coffee is your choice, not mine.

I use my phone as my alarm clock. Sometimes I like to have a flick through the news headlines before I get out of bed. I don’t think I’m particularly unusual in this and I don’t think it’s too much to ask for someone to consider that, just because they’re up before six and enjoying the sunrise, not everyone will be.

OP posts:
DontReplyIWillLie · 10/05/2025 11:35

It really winds me up when you don't respond to someone immediately to something that can wait, and they send "????"

A friend’s boyfriend did this in the very early days of their relationship. She told him in no uncertain terms that it would be very foolish to send that text twice.

He must have listened, because four years on they’re still together 😄

OP posts:
Anxioustealady · 10/05/2025 11:36

DontReplyIWillLie · 10/05/2025 11:31

As for messages really early in the morning, well i don't take my phone into the bedroom with me and don't look at it till I've had my coffee. That's your responsibility, not hers.

And you not having your phone in the bedroom and not looking at it until you’ve had your coffee is your choice, not mine.

I use my phone as my alarm clock. Sometimes I like to have a flick through the news headlines before I get out of bed. I don’t think I’m particularly unusual in this and I don’t think it’s too much to ask for someone to consider that, just because they’re up before six and enjoying the sunrise, not everyone will be.

No you're not unreasonable for this OP. Lots of people have their phones near them at night for emergency calls, and people are considerate not to contact them before they're up. That's normal.

AngelicKaty · 10/05/2025 11:36

@DontReplyIWillLie I've voted YABU to not invite her to your birthday party because if you like her then that is just mean. However, you would NBU to sit her down, as a friend, and kindly explain to her that whilst she needs constant messaging contact, other people do not and that, in fact, she risks putting off other people if she can't grasp this.
Regarding your own handling of her messages, I have a friend who is a little like this and if the message doesn't actually require a reply (like her one about the weather) I just acknowledge it with an emoji (it would have been "sunglasses on smiley face" for that one). Your friend does sound lonely/needy so it seems like she needs some kind of acknowledgement when she messages someone, so I would keep it as brief as this if nothing more meaningful is required.

LobeliaBaggins · 10/05/2025 11:37

I respond very quickly to actual requests or emergencies. Like " Want to go to this movie?". Or " My mum died."

Not to good morning messages though.

Anxioustealady · 10/05/2025 11:38

DontReplyIWillLie · 10/05/2025 11:35

It really winds me up when you don't respond to someone immediately to something that can wait, and they send "????"

A friend’s boyfriend did this in the very early days of their relationship. She told him in no uncertain terms that it would be very foolish to send that text twice.

He must have listened, because four years on they’re still together 😄

Honestly a deal breaker lol, he did well to recover it 😄

ItGhoul · 10/05/2025 11:39

Daisy sounds suffocating, needy, pushy and hyper-sensitive and I would not be inviting her. I would also be cooling off majorly on the friendship.

Yes, it is possible that she is lonely, anxious and socially awkward. No, that does not mean (contrary to Mumsnet belief, apparently) that you have to put up with behaviour that you find irritating and stressful and boundary-crossing. You’re not her unpaid care-worker. A friend is not someone who makes your heart sink when you get a message from them.

Daisy isn’t messaging people all the time because she’s a kind and friendly person. She’s messaging them because he wants their attention and for them to relieve her boredom.

ItGhoul · 10/05/2025 11:40

DinaofCloud9 · 10/05/2025 11:26

Funny how some of these posters berating the OP for being horrible sound nastier than the OP.

Agreed. The #bekind people are usually among the least pleasant people on social media.

Mary46 · 10/05/2025 11:41

She sounds needy. Are you her only friend. I had a similar thing oh didnt hear from you. I said ah Im not on phone much at wends as too many whatsapp groups. She got the hint.

wizzywig · 10/05/2025 11:44

What would happen if you did say "daisy don't text people so much. Ask something once and that's it" or words to that effect?

Feelingmuchbetter · 10/05/2025 11:47

I very much hope Daisy can’t make your birthday and drops you op. She can find some other morning type friends she can be herself with. You sound cantankerous and difficult op, she sounds needy and lonely - this is really not a good friendship match.

I hope you will be respectful towards her, as you really haven’t been up to now. You are a walking red flag with the insults, backstabbing and gossiping, but we are not the first to tell you that I suspect…

BrightonEarlyOneSummerMorning · 10/05/2025 11:48

Feelingmuchbetter · 10/05/2025 11:47

I very much hope Daisy can’t make your birthday and drops you op. She can find some other morning type friends she can be herself with. You sound cantankerous and difficult op, she sounds needy and lonely - this is really not a good friendship match.

I hope you will be respectful towards her, as you really haven’t been up to now. You are a walking red flag with the insults, backstabbing and gossiping, but we are not the first to tell you that I suspect…

Edited

Yet OP is the one likeable enough to actually have lots of friends

ItGhoul · 10/05/2025 11:49

Feelingmuchbetter · 10/05/2025 09:36

Emotional support animal?? She is sending you cheerful morning texts not using your number as a crisis line.

If you have indeed said something and she hasn’t listened, then just ignore the message and message back when you want to. It’s not hard.

You are being very unkind about her, and seem largely unaware of that.

She is sending ‘cheerful morning texts’ because she wants a reply. And if she doesn’t get one she guilt trips the OP by asking if there’s something wrong. The reply/attention she is seeking is the emotional support element.

She isn’t texting the OP because she wants to brighten the OP’s day. She is texting the OP because she wants the OP to brighten her day. This is all about Daisy and what she wants from people.

PrincessHoneysuckle · 10/05/2025 11:50

She sounds like Martha from Baby Reindeer

Feelingmuchbetter · 10/05/2025 11:51

BrightonEarlyOneSummerMorning · 10/05/2025 11:48

Yet OP is the one likeable enough to actually have lots of friends

Almost certainly they are not real friends. Just people passing through. Real friendship tends to run at a deeper level than gossiping, the odd night out and running down vulnerable people.

ItGhoul · 10/05/2025 11:51

Feelingmuchbetter · 10/05/2025 11:47

I very much hope Daisy can’t make your birthday and drops you op. She can find some other morning type friends she can be herself with. You sound cantankerous and difficult op, she sounds needy and lonely - this is really not a good friendship match.

I hope you will be respectful towards her, as you really haven’t been up to now. You are a walking red flag with the insults, backstabbing and gossiping, but we are not the first to tell you that I suspect…

Edited

My irony meter just exploded.

The OP is very much not the one who sounds unpleasant on this thread 👀

thepariscrimefiles · 10/05/2025 11:52

Feelingmuchbetter · 10/05/2025 11:47

I very much hope Daisy can’t make your birthday and drops you op. She can find some other morning type friends she can be herself with. You sound cantankerous and difficult op, she sounds needy and lonely - this is really not a good friendship match.

I hope you will be respectful towards her, as you really haven’t been up to now. You are a walking red flag with the insults, backstabbing and gossiping, but we are not the first to tell you that I suspect…

Edited

Daisy doesn't have any other friends, never mind morning type ones.

You have been much nastier about OP than she has been about Daisy and you are just making up stuff now.

As for:

'You are a walking red flag with the insults, backstabbing and gossiping, but we are not the first to tell you that I suspect…'

This is a personal attack that Mumsnet doesn't allow, but I won't report it as it is better to leave it there so people can see what sort of person you are.

EarthSight · 10/05/2025 11:54

Ignore the strange post from @Feelingmuchbetter

It's either -

  • This poster probably feels a bit judged because they themselves are a bit like this, so they've come out with that post in order to defend their own behaviour
  • This poster is actually your friend
  • They're a troll
  • They're don't understand people at all
  • They don't have much empathy which is why they ridiculously called you a bitch for your post.

Don't justify your behaviour to them. It's power trip for them.

Gymnopedie · 10/05/2025 11:56

Feelingmuchbetter · 10/05/2025 11:47

I very much hope Daisy can’t make your birthday and drops you op. She can find some other morning type friends she can be herself with. You sound cantankerous and difficult op, she sounds needy and lonely - this is really not a good friendship match.

I hope you will be respectful towards her, as you really haven’t been up to now. You are a walking red flag with the insults, backstabbing and gossiping, but we are not the first to tell you that I suspect…

Edited

So when Daisy says jump, OP has to say how high? Otherwise it's not a real friendship?

EggnogNoggin · 10/05/2025 11:57

Poor Daisy? No, I'm sorry but if everyone is feeling cheesed off at her communication style and everyone is giving her the same message by not replying as she expects, then moaning around the houses about it isn't the answer.

She is the common denominator and it would infuriate me that she refuses to see it.

Its almost a manipulative level of ignorance, very faux-ImJustBeingFriendlyEveryoneElseIsRuuuuude.

I have a lovely friend, truly kind, but fuck me, she can't let anyone finish a sentence and it is SO annoying. People choosing to look past it doesn't mean itnisnt annoying.

Daisy is annoying.

Feelingmuchbetter · 10/05/2025 11:57

Or the poster won’t participate in unkindness towards a vulnerable person many of us suspect is ND. Not cool.