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Friend becoming overbearing

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DontReplyIWillLie · 10/05/2025 08:45

And not just with me, which is the main issue…

I have a friend, Daisy, who I’ve known for a few years through a hobby. She’s a very nice, kind woman, but she does tend to go overboard on texts, that are largely about nothing. She’s an early riser too, so when my alarm goes off and I barely know where or even who I am, the first thing I see is “Good morning Don’t. Today looks like it will be a lovely day. The sun is already shining. I may take a walk in the park” or similar. Sometimes I don’t remember to reply when I’ve woken up properly, but I must admit that sometimes I just don’t bother, as there’s no question to answer or anything that really requires a reaction. I was hoping this might discourage her from the daily bulletin.

Anyway, she picked up on it and I got this long text saying “I have noticed that sometimes I text you and you do not reply. Please let me know if I have offended you somehow and should not be texting you anymore”. I bit the bullet and said that sometimes I just forget because I see the messages when I’m barely awake, and that sometimes I don’t think something needs a reply if there isn’t a question or something specific to say. She was a bit bewildered about the first part - she was saying “But surely you turn your phone off at night, so you don’t see any messages until you switch it on and can check them?” - but she seemed to have got that I’m not trying to upset her; I just don’t need a text for everything.

However, this communication overdose has now spread to my other friends; people she only knows through me. I ran into a friend, Carol, who I hadn’t seen in ages while on my way to meet Daisy and invited her to join us for a drink. They got on well and swapped numbers, because they share a common interest. Barely a fortnight later Daisy messaged me saying “Have you heard from Carol? Is she okay? I’ve messaged her three times this week and she hasn’t responded”. I was taken aback, and I did say maybe it was a bit much. (I’ve known Carol for years and I probably only hear from her every few weeks or so.) I asked Carol the next time I spoke to her and she awkwardly said that she’d found it a bit odd; she’d really only expected to share a couple of links and so on.

This wasn’t the only time. Another friend runs a bar; I took Daisy in for a drink and we chatted to him while it was quiet. The next time I saw him he said, “Bloody hell, that Daisy’s a bit much, isn’t she? She’s messaged three times asking when she can bring me some cakes! I don’t even know her!” I had no idea she’d even asked for his number.

Anyway, it’s my birthday coming up. I usually go away for it with another friend, as hers is a few days earlier, but we’re not doing that this year. The question is, do I invite Daisy on my birthday night out? I just have visions of her wanting to swap numbers with all my other friends and then chasing them wanting to know why they haven’t replied today, when can she bake them a cake etc.. I really don’t fancy having my friends all complaining to me that they’re being bombarded by someone they barely know.

Do I just not ask her? She doesn’t do social media (part of the reason she always wants to swap numbers - she can’t just add people on Facebook or whatever) so it’s not like she’d see pictures and find out. Or am I being mean?

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Feelingmuchbetter · 10/05/2025 10:13

You have come on looking for permission to leave Daisy out of your birthday celebrations, and to ask for validation.

You do not need to invite Daisy to your birthday party if you don’t want her there, but at least own it and say it’s because you are embarrassed of her/sick of her or whatever.

What you are seeking is to distort the situation to fit your own narrative that you are a nice person, and she is a pain in the rear.

The fact is you are not a nice person or even a friend to Daisy, because decent people don’t go around gossiping, excluding and name calling. I hope Daisy ditches you in favour of real friends.

Genuinely I am feeling very sorry for her, and I am super glad I don’t have friends like you op.

Deboh · 10/05/2025 10:15

Just tell her you don’t like her. This is ridiculous how old are you?

LobeliaBaggins · 10/05/2025 10:15

How on earth is posting on MN gossip?

DontReplyIWillLie · 10/05/2025 10:16

I am super glad I don’t have friends like you op.

Well, that’s one thing we can agree on at least.

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Butchyrestingface · 10/05/2025 10:17

I would let this friendship drift, OP.

BTW, I think Daisy has found your thread. Grin

AlpacaMittens · 10/05/2025 10:18

Tee hee, chuckling to myself coming on this thread straight after the (baklava) neighbour thread 🤣

MyOliveHelper · 10/05/2025 10:18

Feelingmuchbetter · 10/05/2025 10:13

You have come on looking for permission to leave Daisy out of your birthday celebrations, and to ask for validation.

You do not need to invite Daisy to your birthday party if you don’t want her there, but at least own it and say it’s because you are embarrassed of her/sick of her or whatever.

What you are seeking is to distort the situation to fit your own narrative that you are a nice person, and she is a pain in the rear.

The fact is you are not a nice person or even a friend to Daisy, because decent people don’t go around gossiping, excluding and name calling. I hope Daisy ditches you in favour of real friends.

Genuinely I am feeling very sorry for her, and I am super glad I don’t have friends like you op.

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Daisy will never find real friends because her desperation and relentlessness will push people away.

Dragonfly97 · 10/05/2025 10:19

I'd find her a bit suffocating OP; I had someone like this, and I just faded out the friendship in the end, she was such hard work, didn't listen, got offended if I tried to explain stuff, it was exhausting. I'd take a step back if I were you, be less available. She might take the hint.

Feelingmuchbetter · 10/05/2025 10:20

So just put on your girly pants and tell her op. That way the chirpy annoying messages will stop immediately and you will have some peace (if you can call it that) Job done. ✔️
I am not sure what the issue is.

Somethingthecatdraggedin7 · 10/05/2025 10:24

I would love to meet someone as kind and enthusiastic as Daisy. She sounds great.
You and your friends, not so much.
Christ alive there are nasty people here on MN both you and many of the replies to this thread.

RhiWrites · 10/05/2025 10:25

I know someone like this. It’s just too much. She pushes people away when she’s trying to make friends because they feel overwhelmed.

I think it would be a kindness to sit Daisy down and say that not everyone is as sociable as her and she shouldn’t bombard people with texts but let friendship gradually. Depending on how that goes you can decide about the party and maybe invite her with the warning you’d rather she didn’t ask for anyone’s number although if they ask for hers of course she can give it.

The danger is her saying “tee hee I’m not allowed to ask for your number. Don’t says so.” But maybe you can ask her not to do that either.

it provably won’t work and she’ll be hurt. But at least you’ll have tried to help her understand where she’s going wrong.

VirgosNeedGoals · 10/05/2025 10:25

She sounds a needy nightmare and I can't believe anyone disagrees with you. Just tell her to stop acting like a fucking madwoman.

DontReplyIWillLie · 10/05/2025 10:27

I would love to meet someone as kind and enthusiastic as Daisy.

Great! PM me your number and I’ll pass it on.

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Thelnebriati · 10/05/2025 10:28

I suggest you google for the traits of a covert narcissist, just because someone is superficially charming doesn't mean they are a good person.

I know its difficult to make new friends as we get older but sending texts very early in the morning then getting upset when they are not well received is making a mountain out of a molehill.

LobeliaBaggins · 10/05/2025 10:28

Somethingthecatdraggedin7 · 10/05/2025 10:24

I would love to meet someone as kind and enthusiastic as Daisy. She sounds great.
You and your friends, not so much.
Christ alive there are nasty people here on MN both you and many of the replies to this thread.

Daisy has found the thread!

Somethingthecatdraggedin7 · 10/05/2025 10:30

LobeliaBaggins · 10/05/2025 10:28

Daisy has found the thread!

Ah, more personal mocking. How lovely.
It is so helpful when people prove your point.

MyOliveHelper · 10/05/2025 10:32

Thelnebriati · 10/05/2025 10:28

I suggest you google for the traits of a covert narcissist, just because someone is superficially charming doesn't mean they are a good person.

I know its difficult to make new friends as we get older but sending texts very early in the morning then getting upset when they are not well received is making a mountain out of a molehill.

As is assuming that everyone turns their phone off and back on like you do. I do have a really clingy friend, but I'd never have been able to take it if she was like this. What she does is push people away because she thinks they're rejecting her. She actually doesn't demand more because she feels she doesn't really deserve it. If she foisted herself on me like this, we'd never be friends now. It's a red flag.

Hodges67 · 10/05/2025 10:33

I had a friend like this who would approach my friends and think they would naturally want to be her friends. It was very embarrassing when friends I don’t know very well would say she had approached them by facebook or texts and they didn’t want to have a relationship with her, she would then ask me why so and so had not replied to her! She used all these social events as a networking event for herself, so awkward! She actually had poor mental health and was very lonely as she didn’t work due to her health. In the end it came to a horrible end as me and a few of us who saw her occasionally decided to end the friendship. It had become very toxic and unpleasant for us dealing with her odd and needy behavior. We received endless texts from her about how spiteful we all were etc but after approximately a year, she has stopped texting us. Am glad she is out of my life as she was so manipulative and played the victim card. I wish her well but she wouldn’t accept that we could only see her now and again. Your friend doesn’t sound as bad as the one I knew, but
good lucK with her….

Butchyrestingface · 10/05/2025 10:33

Somethingthecatdraggedin7 · 10/05/2025 10:30

Ah, more personal mocking. How lovely.
It is so helpful when people prove your point.

Never mind the snark. OP has kindly offered to pass your number along to Daisy and you haven’t even thanked her.

Don’t look this gift horse in the mouth.

ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine · 10/05/2025 10:33

Is it possible that Daisy has a learning disability? What you’re describing really reminds me of an old school friend of mine who definitely does. Very overly friendly and keen to push into friendships and just ends up pushing people away. Sadly I’ve ended up distancing myself because my attempts to avoid being completely smothered by her caused great offence. It seems it has to be all or nothing, and I can’t give all.

LobeliaBaggins · 10/05/2025 10:35

One one side posters who never answer their door, on the other posters who think Daisy sounds lovely!

Distance yourself, OP.

healthybychristmas · 10/05/2025 10:36

I feel for her as I think she wants a deeper friendship and more friendships than she has. Is she single? She sounds lonely.

DontReplyIWillLie · 10/05/2025 10:38

MyOliveHelper · 10/05/2025 10:18

Daisy will never find real friends because her desperation and relentlessness will push people away.

This is the sad thing. Despite what one or two posters on this thread are trying to suggest, I do genuinely like her, and I’d happily include her in more if things were different. But I just feel like if I invite her along to anything, in a week’s time I’ll be getting messages asking why she hasn’t heard from Susan, am I sure nothing’s wrong with Liz because she isn’t answering me etc..

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Naunet · 10/05/2025 10:39

Thelnebriati · 10/05/2025 10:28

I suggest you google for the traits of a covert narcissist, just because someone is superficially charming doesn't mean they are a good person.

I know its difficult to make new friends as we get older but sending texts very early in the morning then getting upset when they are not well received is making a mountain out of a molehill.

True narcissists are very rare, 0.5 - 2% of the population, far more likely she ND or just lacks social skills.

Sassybooklover · 10/05/2025 10:40

It may be that Daisy is lonely but I do think that she's a little socially awkward and perhaps struggles with knowing what's acceptable. I don't think Daisy is going to understand 'hints', because they will go over her head. It needs a direct but kind conversation with her, so she can see her behaviour is too much, and work with her, so she can find a happy medium. Unfortunately, if she's coming across as 'too much', people won't want to engage with her, which in turn makes her more needy and feel even more lonely. She's in a vicious circle.