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Friend becoming overbearing

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DontReplyIWillLie · 10/05/2025 08:45

And not just with me, which is the main issue…

I have a friend, Daisy, who I’ve known for a few years through a hobby. She’s a very nice, kind woman, but she does tend to go overboard on texts, that are largely about nothing. She’s an early riser too, so when my alarm goes off and I barely know where or even who I am, the first thing I see is “Good morning Don’t. Today looks like it will be a lovely day. The sun is already shining. I may take a walk in the park” or similar. Sometimes I don’t remember to reply when I’ve woken up properly, but I must admit that sometimes I just don’t bother, as there’s no question to answer or anything that really requires a reaction. I was hoping this might discourage her from the daily bulletin.

Anyway, she picked up on it and I got this long text saying “I have noticed that sometimes I text you and you do not reply. Please let me know if I have offended you somehow and should not be texting you anymore”. I bit the bullet and said that sometimes I just forget because I see the messages when I’m barely awake, and that sometimes I don’t think something needs a reply if there isn’t a question or something specific to say. She was a bit bewildered about the first part - she was saying “But surely you turn your phone off at night, so you don’t see any messages until you switch it on and can check them?” - but she seemed to have got that I’m not trying to upset her; I just don’t need a text for everything.

However, this communication overdose has now spread to my other friends; people she only knows through me. I ran into a friend, Carol, who I hadn’t seen in ages while on my way to meet Daisy and invited her to join us for a drink. They got on well and swapped numbers, because they share a common interest. Barely a fortnight later Daisy messaged me saying “Have you heard from Carol? Is she okay? I’ve messaged her three times this week and she hasn’t responded”. I was taken aback, and I did say maybe it was a bit much. (I’ve known Carol for years and I probably only hear from her every few weeks or so.) I asked Carol the next time I spoke to her and she awkwardly said that she’d found it a bit odd; she’d really only expected to share a couple of links and so on.

This wasn’t the only time. Another friend runs a bar; I took Daisy in for a drink and we chatted to him while it was quiet. The next time I saw him he said, “Bloody hell, that Daisy’s a bit much, isn’t she? She’s messaged three times asking when she can bring me some cakes! I don’t even know her!” I had no idea she’d even asked for his number.

Anyway, it’s my birthday coming up. I usually go away for it with another friend, as hers is a few days earlier, but we’re not doing that this year. The question is, do I invite Daisy on my birthday night out? I just have visions of her wanting to swap numbers with all my other friends and then chasing them wanting to know why they haven’t replied today, when can she bake them a cake etc.. I really don’t fancy having my friends all complaining to me that they’re being bombarded by someone they barely know.

Do I just not ask her? She doesn’t do social media (part of the reason she always wants to swap numbers - she can’t just add people on Facebook or whatever) so it’s not like she’d see pictures and find out. Or am I being mean?

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neonjumper · 10/05/2025 10:42

Not unreasonable in the least . Nobody needs a monologue of the internal workings of what is going on in someone else’s head.

she is incredibly selfish and self indulgent . She is not thinking about how her morning texts impact others … people have lives outside of her yet she thinks she is the focus of other peoples lives .

im not surprised resentment is building as you are now having to fire fight her impact on other people she has started to bother .

The ‘you are being unkind’ posters want you to be a people pleaser , wanting you to put your own discomfort aside to allow her to behave thoughtlessly.

Naunet · 10/05/2025 10:42

OP, if you genuinely like her, why not invite her but just give your friends fair warning that she's a heavy texter, so they can make an informed decision re giving out their numbers?

LobeliaBaggins · 10/05/2025 10:45

Naunet · 10/05/2025 10:42

OP, if you genuinely like her, why not invite her but just give your friends fair warning that she's a heavy texter, so they can make an informed decision re giving out their numbers?

Don't think this is a good idea. That would be gossip.

MyOliveHelper · 10/05/2025 10:48

I don't think she is ND or a narcissist. I think she's just been raised or developed the belief that people owe her friendship. I've met people like this but mostly as parents to children who they believe are owed attention, affection and companionship from others.

I have a colleague who believes that children in the park should stop playing when they see her child and ensure she is welcomed into a group she feels secure in before they continue their own pursuits. She thinks it is unkind to do anything else.

She doesn't connect the dots that some of the other people there will have brought a friend or relative they know with them, and that's why they already have someone to play with at the park. They have someone to bring with them because they are able to make and keep friends without repelling them. This trait also makes it easier to meet new children in the park without pissing them off.

So because her daughter feels like the other children should be making time and space for her, she puts them off of actually doing that, and then she doesn't have anyone to play with.

It's this thing of "my special indigo child deserves everything and I'll.make sure they'll get it". It raises lonely children into neurotic even more lonely adults.

Banmooo · 10/05/2025 10:51

Feelingmuchbetter · 10/05/2025 09:24

I find your post quite breathtakingly unkind. You are not much of a friend to Daisy, whom sounds quite lonely to me.

If you don’t like her early morning messages, why not gently say I am not a morning person and can’t respond to later in the day. Maybe message me later so I am more with it. Or I am not a fan of texting so don’t take it personally.

You have instead decided to let your friends gossip and be unkind about her, calling her names like ‘overbearing’ just makes you sound like a bitch to be honest.

Daisy just sounds friendly to me, and I’m sure your friends are capable of dealing with her ‘unwanted’ texts. It’s weird why they would exchange numbers with someone they don’t like in the first place.

I am not great with people that message too much, it doesn’t bother me, I just reply when I can.
Set my own boundaries, like most people.

It seems like you are using it as a way to be unkind and spiteful about her. You know leaving her out of your birthday arrangements is very hurtful, no doubt you will do it anyway and justify it by blaming her. I really hope Daisy makes some better friends. Poor thing.

This is an insanely oversensitive reaction.

ilovesushi · 10/05/2025 10:51

Help her to get set up on facebook so she can blast her messages out to the world rather than pestering individuals. (Assuming she's not on because of lack of familiarity rather than personal choice).

Naunet · 10/05/2025 10:51

LobeliaBaggins · 10/05/2025 10:45

Don't think this is a good idea. That would be gossip.

Well personally I wouldn't care what others wanted to label it, I see it as being a good friend to everyone. She doesn't need to be nasty when warning her other friends that she's a keen texter, it's just stating a fact.

Thelnebriati · 10/05/2025 10:56

Making you feel obliged to manage her relationships with others isn't a nice thing to do. Its actually pretty controlling.

SuperTrooper14 · 10/05/2025 10:57

Not a chance that the PP who are saying "poor Daisy" would be happy with a daily onslaught of text messages blowing up their phones from the second they wake up along with follow-up messages wanting an explanation for why they've not been replied to. Those PP are just trying to guilt-trip you OP when you have nothing to feel guilty about. You've told Daisy it's too much but she hasn't listened and what's more she's now going after your friends. Definitely don't invite her to your birthday.

dontcryformeargentina · 10/05/2025 10:57

I have a friend like that too. She absolutely disrespects other people’s boundaries and pursues her own agenda no matter what. I had to distance myself from her as her neediness and attention seeking made me feel uncomfortable. Realised that she wasn’t a genuine friend when my mom was sick and I told her that I wasn’t available for her daily messaging. She totally ignored that and continued bombarding me with her issues. She didn’t even wish my mum to get better or acknowledged my situation. I see her as an energy vampire now. Very limited contact.

Gymnopedie · 10/05/2025 10:59

Daisy can send as many messages as she likes, on whatever subjects she likes. What she can't do is demand that everyone she messages answers her immediately/almost immediately/at all.

What she does with her time is up to her. What she doesn't get to do is dictate how others spend theirs.

FurryFroggg · 10/05/2025 11:04

I actually feel for her. Since having DC I have become very lonely. I don’t have many friends. I have to limit the amount I message other mums because I know I could be too much if I didn’t. I’d love to have more play dates but stop myself asking because others have busy lives and lots of friends. Tell her kindly but firmly OP, she will likely be embarrassed but I get the feeling she is just very lonely and doesn’t know how to approach it. But equally you don’t have to be the answer to her issues. Be straight with her.

Being lonely sucks. It’s really hard to feel on the outside.

SmoothRoads · 10/05/2025 11:07

If you like her then invite her. If she messages your friends a lot more than they would like, it's up to them to communicate this with her, just like it's up to you to ask her to send fewer messages.

I have a friend who messages a lot. She always sends 10 messages rather than one big one. Sometimes I find it a bit much and mute the app for a bit. But she doesn't mind if I don't get back to her right away and she also doesn't mind that I send a lot fewer in return.

As for messages really early in the morning, well i don't take my phone into the bedroom with me and don't look at it till I've had my coffee. That's your responsibility, not hers.

thepariscrimefiles · 10/05/2025 11:09

Feelingmuchbetter · 10/05/2025 09:24

I find your post quite breathtakingly unkind. You are not much of a friend to Daisy, whom sounds quite lonely to me.

If you don’t like her early morning messages, why not gently say I am not a morning person and can’t respond to later in the day. Maybe message me later so I am more with it. Or I am not a fan of texting so don’t take it personally.

You have instead decided to let your friends gossip and be unkind about her, calling her names like ‘overbearing’ just makes you sound like a bitch to be honest.

Daisy just sounds friendly to me, and I’m sure your friends are capable of dealing with her ‘unwanted’ texts. It’s weird why they would exchange numbers with someone they don’t like in the first place.

I am not great with people that message too much, it doesn’t bother me, I just reply when I can.
Set my own boundaries, like most people.

It seems like you are using it as a way to be unkind and spiteful about her. You know leaving her out of your birthday arrangements is very hurtful, no doubt you will do it anyway and justify it by blaming her. I really hope Daisy makes some better friends. Poor thing.

OP's post is hardly 'breathtakingly unkind'. She did explain to her friend why she didn't reply to every text after her friend had asked her directly why she wasn't immediately responding and she thought that Daisy took this on board.

Daisy isn't just being friendly. She is expecting an immediate response to her messages and chases replies relentlessly. Because she met these people through OP, these friends are complaining to her. Daisy hardly knows these people yet she thinks it is reasonable to chase OP about the non-response from some of these friends. Surely most people would find this annoying.

MadamCholetsbonnet · 10/05/2025 11:10

Surely Facebook is ideal for someone like this?

Arewethebadguys · 10/05/2025 11:10

Clip clop clip clop . . . is that the sound of baby reindeer hooves?

YearlySubscriptionRenewal · 10/05/2025 11:11

Deboh · 10/05/2025 09:36

But she’s not asking you to be her support, she’s just saying hello. What is she actually saying then in these morning messages?

No, she really IS asking for support.

You do not send daily morning messages like this to anyone who is not VERY very close to you - I wouldn't even send that to my kids!

Maybe a lover, or a best friend but it grows organically, you BOTH send daily constant messages.

It is very over-bearing and frankly a pain in the arse. OP is not being unkind, she is asking for advice on how to deal with this level. The friend is lacking basic awareness and also needs to get a life frankly.

You don't send messages to people just saying "good morning". It's just weird, and it's way too much.

latetothefisting · 10/05/2025 11:12

tbh I don't think you need the whole backstory - you don't have to invite everyone you know to your birthday party anyway.

I know that Daisy isn't on social media so won't know regardless, but even if she was, I wouldn't be upset if I saw one friend of mine celebrating with other friends I didn't know. I wouldn't automatically be expected to be invited to everything - surely most people have different friend groups? I would just assume this was a meet up with, say, uni friends, and of course you wouldn't bother also inviting work colleagues or people you know from the gym or whatever.

It would be different if you were thinking of excluding her from a social group you were both part of but she doesn't know these people. You weren't going to invite her on the original weekend away with another friend, so you don't need to invite her to the new plans with different friends. The only difference is the new plan is a slightly bigger group, but that's not the same as it being an all-inclusive group where you're obliged to invite everyone you know!

YearlySubscriptionRenewal · 10/05/2025 11:14

MadamCholetsbonnet · 10/05/2025 11:10

Surely Facebook is ideal for someone like this?

absolutely this.

More social media, comment (lightly and A LITTLE BIT) on other people posts, post your own.

FB, Insta and the like...

If you are feeling that lonely but don't do things face-to-face for whatever reason (illness, baby, new city) go on FB! Start a group, become and admin, and post a daily "good morning" on your wall that people can ignore, or reply to.

YearlySubscriptionRenewal · 10/05/2025 11:14

Arewethebadguys · 10/05/2025 11:10

Clip clop clip clop . . . is that the sound of baby reindeer hooves?

nailed it 😂

cannaecookrisotto · 10/05/2025 11:15

She sounds like she has good intentions but socially awkward. She sounds like a nice person from what you’ve posted so I’d take the direct approach and just have a cup of tea and diplomatic chat about her text frequency. Either she takes huge offence and tells you to fuck off (texts stop) or she listens and reduces texting. Win win 🏆

Okiedokie123 · 10/05/2025 11:15

@Feelingmuchbetter if anyones post/comment on this thread is "breathtakingly unkind" I think its yours.

Okiedokie123 · 10/05/2025 11:18

@cannaecookrisotto yes to that suggestion. Plus I think - why not be on FB/social media, like it or not, these days thats the ideal way to share a daily update with the world. Those who want to interact will and those that dont will scroll by.

Lollipop2025 · 10/05/2025 11:20

I had a work friend like this. Constant messages and I'm a bit rubbish at replying at the best of times. He then started saying I was on my final warning and he wouldn't message again if I didn't reply this time ect. Honestly it was really overbearing. I work full time and have 3 children and I felt like he expected me to jump every time he messaged. He was a right pain on my daughters birthday. He would phone me at 6am! I would answer because who the hell rings at that time of day so I always assumed it was important it never was. I just completely stopped in the end. I found it really intrusive.

Sorry not much helpful advice. I would probably invite her and let other people decide on how to deal with replying to her.

thepariscrimefiles · 10/05/2025 11:20

Feelingmuchbetter · 10/05/2025 10:13

You have come on looking for permission to leave Daisy out of your birthday celebrations, and to ask for validation.

You do not need to invite Daisy to your birthday party if you don’t want her there, but at least own it and say it’s because you are embarrassed of her/sick of her or whatever.

What you are seeking is to distort the situation to fit your own narrative that you are a nice person, and she is a pain in the rear.

The fact is you are not a nice person or even a friend to Daisy, because decent people don’t go around gossiping, excluding and name calling. I hope Daisy ditches you in favour of real friends.

Genuinely I am feeling very sorry for her, and I am super glad I don’t have friends like you op.

Edited

Daisy obviously lacks boundaries and oversteps with people she hardly knows.

If OP was as horrible as you say, she would just block Daisy's number and ghost her and tell her friends to do the same.

I assume that if Daisy had some 'real friends', she wouldn't be chasing OP and her friends like this.

I think that Daisy needs OP's friendship more than OP needs Daisy's so your advice will probably leave Daisy in a worse position than she is already.