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To be annoyed that my manager said she “needs more energy” from me?

177 replies

ThatTaupeCritic · 09/05/2025 22:59

I’m doing my job well, meeting deadlines and staying professional. But in a recent catch-up, my manager said she “needs more energy” from me. What does that even mean? I’m not in sales or performance - I don’t see how being more “bubbly” affects the quality of my work.

It just rubbed me the wrong way. AIBU to think this kind of feedback is vague and a bit performative?

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echt · 09/05/2025 23:52

Sometimes managers just feel they have to say something. Anything. Years ago I went on staff leadership training (teaching) and we were invited to say something about another member of staff in the room that they were good at and share it.
Then do the same for something they could improve on.

Without exception the good things were very precise, concrete things that the person did: clear communicator, etc. Without exception all the critiques were expressed as a metaphor, e.g. needs to think outside the box. 100%

I don't know if this means that people hesitate to critique someone so take refuge in the nebulous or they just can't name the horrid truth in an open meeting.

Anyway, your manager has been vague and metaphorical so you'll need to go back to her. I'd take the tack of not saying what the fuck does "give more energy" mean you twazzock? and try to get the specific. Ask her for an example of how you could do what you do better. Don't be surprised if this doesn't go well as her remark might have been based on fuck all so you can't get better.

Keep a diary record of what she says/has said.

InWalksBarberalla · 09/05/2025 23:53

Next time you talk with her tell her you need more psychological safety from her.

MoistVonL · 09/05/2025 23:54

I would understand that to be you lack engagement, initiative.

That you do exactly what’s required but don’t show an understanding of how to improve, be more creative or efficient, or do anything beyond the minimum spec of your role.

OR that your manager is crap and wants you to sing and dance for your supper.

Both are possible.

SocialEvent · 09/05/2025 23:55

Call their bluff and say you really want to take it on board so please could you have some SMART metrics to measure yourself against and a timeline so it’s objective.

TimeForABreak4 · 09/05/2025 23:59

I'd have pushed her even further to explain and said can you give more context and if she gave another vague comment. I'd have then said I'm still struggling to understand sorry, can you give specific examples of how I should bring more energy to the role.

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 09/05/2025 23:59

Ask her to frame it as a SMART objective and you'll get onto it right away.
Bet she can't!

Chinnuy · 09/05/2025 23:59

SocialEvent · 09/05/2025 23:55

Call their bluff and say you really want to take it on board so please could you have some SMART metrics to measure yourself against and a timeline so it’s objective.

Great idea. Put the responsibility back to them in explaining it. So annoying when managers make vague statements like that.

I clashed with my manager at a comms company because of this. They had these vague comments about me not being sociable or friendly enough despite the fact I was under supported and given far too much work from the second week of being there.

I was often working until 7pm along with other junior staff while many senior staff swanned off at 4pm.

It wasn’t enough for me to get on with it and complete the task to a high standard, I also had to be “perky”. Since then I’ve steered clear of that kind of workplace.

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 10/05/2025 00:00

Cross posted with @SocialEvent !

Screamingabdabz · 10/05/2025 00:02

MrsMickey · 09/05/2025 23:06

without a bit more info, it’s hard to say, but some people are very functional in the work place, they will do what they just need to, get the job done and go home. That’s sometimes ok and sometimes not. When I’ve had people in this situation what I really mean is I want them to be coming up with ideas, doing their work in more original than functional ways, looking to see how they can perform tasks more efficiently to free capacity to help other team members or do more, contributing to team meetings and the working environment, being interested in what the organisation does and how it operates, networking etc.

id start by asking the manager if they can provide you with examples of what they mean in the meantime, perhaps reflect - do you take longer than others to do your work? Are you very quiet and reserved compared to others? How does how you behave in the workplace align to your organisational values?

‘Getting the job done’ is all that is required. People like you, jobsworths, who want all that and more, just make work life so much more tedious. Most of us are just selling our labour to eat and put a roof over our heads. We have no corporate affiliation other than the one we lie about. Perhaps you are the one that needs to ‘reflect’?

CanYouDoTheTwist · 10/05/2025 00:04

It’s giving this vibe, is she a young manager? vm.tiktok.com/ZNdM1oDWF/

Frillysweetpea · 10/05/2025 00:08

She needs to task you with something measurable if she feels you have a performance issue. This sort of statement is unfair on you.

Smilesinthesunshine · 10/05/2025 00:09

Is it possible that she doesn't really know her arse from her elbow and is just coming out with what she hopes will sound managerial? I have found that some people will do this when they haven't really got anything pertinent to say. Perhaps she was just floundering and being a dick. Ask HR if they can offer any clarity on the situation.

Calmdownpeople · 10/05/2025 00:11

I would guess it’s because you are ‘just’ doing your job. Energy can mean lack of pro activity, lack of engagement, lack of positivity, only doing your job and nothing else, not building relationships, only doing exactly what your job is and nothing else etc.

Are you putting in your hours and performing your tasks and nothing else?

Jumpingthruhoops · 10/05/2025 00:12

DrCoconut · 09/05/2025 23:08

I was turned down for a job because I wasn't "bubbly" enough. I had been doing the job on agency for about 6 months (sick cover and the person ended up leaving due to ongoing illness) and the CF asked me if I'd continue covering until they could find someone else. If I hadn't desperately needed the money I'd have told them where to shove it. People who are full of wind are "bubbly" and normally spend their days gassing to others rather than actually doing the job.

Not necessarily... and that view is more than a little bit judgy.

Bubbly people are more personable and, as a result, tend to be very well thought of in the workplace.

Don't knock it till you've tried it, eh?

ThatTaupeCritic · 10/05/2025 00:18

CanYouDoTheTwist · 10/05/2025 00:04

It’s giving this vibe, is she a young manager? vm.tiktok.com/ZNdM1oDWF/

Funnily enough she’s actually older which makes the vibes-based feedback even weirder.

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ThatTaupeCritic · 10/05/2025 00:20

Smilesinthesunshine · 10/05/2025 00:09

Is it possible that she doesn't really know her arse from her elbow and is just coming out with what she hopes will sound managerial? I have found that some people will do this when they haven't really got anything pertinent to say. Perhaps she was just floundering and being a dick. Ask HR if they can offer any clarity on the situation.

That honestly wouldn’t surprise me - it did feel like filler feedback dressed up as something meaningful. I’ll see what HR says and I’ll continue to keep note of how she operates going forward.

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ThatTaupeCritic · 10/05/2025 00:23

Calmdownpeople · 10/05/2025 00:11

I would guess it’s because you are ‘just’ doing your job. Energy can mean lack of pro activity, lack of engagement, lack of positivity, only doing your job and nothing else, not building relationships, only doing exactly what your job is and nothing else etc.

Are you putting in your hours and performing your tasks and nothing else?

I’m doing my job well and hitting deadlines but I’m not doing performative enthusiasm or going beyond scope just to tick an invisible box. I prefer clarity, if she wants something specific, I’d rather she say so than use vague language like ‘energy.’

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Teado · 10/05/2025 00:24

She wants the performative enthusiasm I think. It’s annoying.

TurquoiseDress · 10/05/2025 00:26

It all sounds a bit wanker-ish speak

I’d have asked for a simple translation, WTF are saying exactly (or maybe not quite like that!)

k1233 · 10/05/2025 00:40

I read it as no sense of urgency ie not turning things around quickly but dawdling through them. Not actively looking at ways to improve things etc

It's ambiguous feedback and really should be structured better.

DrCoconut · 10/05/2025 00:49

@Jumpingthruhoopsit maybe depends on what you think of as bubbly. To me it's the kind of person who won't stop talking and is OTT enthusiastic about everything. Like Noel Furlong in father Ted. I find these people draining and they spend more time yapping and distracting everyone than actually working. Then everyone pulls together to get things done and they get the credit because they dominate all conversation and make management think they did everything. No one else can get a word in edgeways to contradict them. Luckily my current line manager can see right through this BS and we have very little of it.

Tbrh · 10/05/2025 00:56

AliBaliBee1234 · 09/05/2025 23:04

I would take it to mean more enthusiasm

This. Am guessing you probably come across a bit meh, which isn't great to be around. But definitely ask for specifics if you are confused or ask one of your work friends if you are willing to accept some constructive feedback

Tbrh · 10/05/2025 00:59

Jumpingthruhoops · 10/05/2025 00:12

Not necessarily... and that view is more than a little bit judgy.

Bubbly people are more personable and, as a result, tend to be very well thought of in the workplace.

Don't knock it till you've tried it, eh?

Yep agree with this. Bubby to me means positive, friendly and enthusiastic and usually the kind of person people enjoy being around.

Foostit · 10/05/2025 00:59

I would definitely ask her to clarify as it has clearly upset you. In my last job I was taken aside and told that I needed to smile more. 🙄
I have a chronic health condition so told them I didn’t really feel like smiling when I was in constant pain. There was also the issue of me fucking hating the job which didn’t really make me want to smile much either! I lasted just over 3 months before I left.

Calmdownpeople · 10/05/2025 01:00

ThatTaupeCritic · 10/05/2025 00:23

I’m doing my job well and hitting deadlines but I’m not doing performative enthusiasm or going beyond scope just to tick an invisible box. I prefer clarity, if she wants something specific, I’d rather she say so than use vague language like ‘energy.’

See I think you may have hit the mail on the head there. It isn’t performative enthusiasm and by thinking so it may come across as negative. It should be seen as engaging and a positive attitude to work and being there.

I think it can be seen as clear. The opposite of energy is flat, dispirited and listless. Maybe that’s how you are coming across which can affect other people you work with and can be seen as negative.

I get you are annoyed and that continues to come across in your response. I suggest you think about what it may mean instead of being annoyed.