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Apparently I’m attention seeking

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PooStep · 08/05/2025 08:17

Currently on holiday with DH, MIL, FIL, SIL and her husband.
Before we even got here they had all been going on about this specific breakfast in the specific restaurant that is a local speciality. It was decided we would go there on our first morning and get this item.
So first morning, this item is mentioned again and they’re all excited about getting it. The way they were going on I was assuming this item was all they sold in the morning so I said too I was up for trying it.

We got to the restaurant- sat down and FIL told the waitress we wanted 6 of said item. I then said “actually, I wouldn’t mind having a Quick Look at the menu?”. I saw MIL roll her eyes and I’m pretty sure SIL pulled a face too but can’t be certain. DH then whispered to me “don’t start this now for gods sake” !? Was asking for the menu really so bad? I’d noticed as we walked in that everyone was eating different things so clearly there was more on offer than this one item. I ended up choosing something different, I didn’t realise however that mine would take longer to arrive so I was sat without anything while they all ate theirs. SILs husband did say “shall we wait until Poostep’s arrives?” And MIL said “no I don’t think so, we came in for these didn’t we, I don’t want mine going cold”. So they all ate. Mine arrived 15 minutes later and naturally I was sat eating on my own after they all finished.
later DH asked me if I was going to be seeking attention throughout the holiday. So were they right to be annoyed?

OP posts:
TorroFerney · 08/05/2025 11:31

BeeCucumber · 08/05/2025 08:25

Why did you change your mind at the last minute?

Because that’s what you can do if you’ve a brain. Didn’t impact anyone. She wasn’t saying I’m not eating here.

SoMuchBadAdvice · 08/05/2025 11:31

Bestfadeplans · 08/05/2025 11:16

Is this a joke? They all have to have the same thing?

Yes, it's what people who go on holiday together tend to do most of the time.

YearlySubscriptionRenewal · 08/05/2025 11:32

nomas · 08/05/2025 11:30

Lots of misogyny on this thread. The OP is a just a little woman who should do as she’s told and shouldn’t expect any agency. How dare she try to choose her own breakfast and drink? How dare she not be a mind reader and be ready on time when she hasn’t been told what that time is?

OP, my advice is to never go on holiday with PIL again and give your DH short shrift next time he tries to order you about. Tell him he is not your keeper.

There's always one 🙄

It has nothing to do with "being a woman". How many posters have said they would have reacted the same way if it was their HUSBAND (so male) behaving like the OP.

You know perfectly well it has nothing to do with "doing as you are told".

BustingBaoBun · 08/05/2025 11:32

Nowhere has the OP said she ordered a full English , maybe the service was rubbish for her particular dish

Why are posters making up but she ordered a full English while they had a pastry

KT1113 · 08/05/2025 11:33

Kreepture · 08/05/2025 09:43

I've a feeling it's what someone said upthread, the Pastel de Nata, i know its supposed to be a whole experience to go eat one freshly made from certain places, and if it is, i do agree the OP was being unreasonable to go off piste.

Edited

I still dont think her ordering something else is rude. She didn't change the venue, the time or stop them eating what they wanted.

The hair drying thing which I've now seen is weird though. I wouldn't come down from my room mid-getting ready in order to have a coffee if i knew people were waiting for me to go out.

MrsSkylerWhite · 08/05/2025 11:33

SoMuchBadAdvice · 08/05/2025 11:31

Yes, it's what people who go on holiday together tend to do most of the time.

Edited

It really isn’t.

nomas · 08/05/2025 11:33

BunnyLake · 08/05/2025 10:26

How do you know that’s what they had, I can’t see any reference to specific food.

Anyway, I would have hated being the only one sitting there eating a full English while everyone had finished their pastry. The clanking of my cutlery against the plate while everyone sat there finished would have had me wishing I’d just ordered what they had (I get self conscious eating if no one else is).

I can’t eat egg based desserts in the morning. I’m sure they would have hated it more if it had been me and I had thrown up all over the table.

Everyone is allowed to eat what they want.

PinkyFlamingo · 08/05/2025 11:33

Attention seeking seems to be your DHs favourite description of you. For going for a walk?! Is he just as unpleasant at home?

OneMintWasp · 08/05/2025 11:34

Obviously don't know the full story but if it is like my in laws, they rule the roost and make all the decisions about every aspect of your holiday (life if we would let then). Deciding what drink you'll be having and what meal you'll be eating is the tip of the iceberg. To decide whether I'm being unreasonable or if it's just that they're smothering me I look at how the dynamics are with other people. Ie my parents, our friends, other members of the family on their side. There is no other tension with anyone else and i dont feel the need to 'assert myself' because they don't try and dictate every thing I do. The whole dynamic is different. I have the fact that my husband agrees with me (as does SIL a lot of the time) so that helps. The eye rolls usually only happen at me but everyone else thinks theyre selfish and controlling.

OlivePeer · 08/05/2025 11:34

heroinechic · 08/05/2025 11:23

I wasn’t sure from your first post, but having read them all I think I can understand their frustrations.

My family is like this. We grew up in a very structured way, and when we go on our annual family holiday we all slip back into it which essentially means getting up early and doing whatever it is my dad decides we are doing, and quickly. There would be absolutely no grace for you blow drying your hair and having a coffee, you’d be left behind frankly. There’d be no waiting around for you to peruse a menu either, or waiting for you to get your food before us eating if yours would be coming late.

DH falling in line with this was something I discussed with him before going away with my family for the first time! When we go away with his family they are totally different, no structure, dither for hours over what to do and where to go, I can’t stand it!

I'm so divided on this. On the one hand I can see why the family is finding OP annoying (especially the hair and coffee thing), but on the other hand, posts like this make me angry even at the thought of this kind of "holiday". If my partner tried to discuss me "falling into line" with his dad's wishes, I'd tell him where to shove his structured family holiday.

IcyPlumOtter · 08/05/2025 11:35

You know if you are really miserable, you can just go your own way, refuse to go on their outings, eat and drink what you like....or go home.

HevMc007 · 08/05/2025 11:36

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 08/05/2025 11:11

This thread is really interesting- it identifies several types of people

  1. controlling one’s - the ones aggressively saying variations of “just eat the bloody Churros or nothing” the group that keeps order.
  2. The ones who only really value being part of a group giving up any personal desires/wants to go along with the crowd irrespective of how that is fulfilling to the individual “don’t rock the boat” and will take all manner of shit to be part of the crowd - just keep the peace at whatever cost. - the group that keeps society stable.
  3. The people who actually don’t take kindly to being told what to do, the more you push them to do something your own way the more group 3 says “fuck off”. Natural contrarians - the group that actually pushes society to change and develop by not being afraid to stand out from the crowd.

Society needs all 3 but group 1 generally hates group 3 because group 3 favours chaos over order (group 3 is prob where many ADHDers sit). This means group 1 can’t do what they love and boss people around. Group 3 will see this as bullying and shout fuck off even louder.

Group 3 probably dislikes group 2 because they see them as boring appeasers who won’t rock the boat for what’s right. Group 2 are horrified at group 3 because they threaten social order which must be upheld at all costs.

The 3 groups, esp 1 and 3 prob shouldn’t holiday together

Edited

I agree to an extent however people who value individual choice are also spilt into those who are self aware and good at communicating their needs and then those who like to be contrary for contrary sake and thrive on conflict.

I really value being able to make my own choices and don't like feeling forced into group choices, so I make sure and communicate this ahead of time. Like if my friends want to go for tapas I'd say ahead of time "just to let you guys know I'll be ordering my own dishes and not just do a whole share thing because I don't like fish". It sets clear expectations and gives them the chance to say if this will be an issue.
Or if they said they all wanted to go to a fish only restaurant I'd just say "enjoy it, I'll sit this one out". I don't want to force them to accept me changing the group dynamic just because I don't fit neatly into it.

Whilst I'm not demonising OP or suggesting she just meekly let FIL control her diet and schedule, sounds like she does need a bit more self awareness and to learn to communicate more effectively with her ILs. Especially if she genuienly wishes for a more harmonious experience, unless of course she enjoys the conflict, in which case continue as is!

For example with the day out when she held everyone up with the hairdrying....just say ahead of time "day out sounds good, not sure when we'll be ready though so you guys go ahead and we'll catch you up there later"

DrNo007 · 08/05/2025 11:36

Weird behaviour on their part (including your DH) and I would not be going on holiday with them again. Well, maybe you go with your DH but only if he first apologises for being an idiot.

I sympathise, as when I was a kid and asked for something different in a restaurant to what my parents were having it was on the menu my father got furious and told me off for "making a fuss". And yes, they didn't like me, just as your relatives don't seem to like you.

Having said, in your position, I would have invited everyone else to start eating without you as there is no virtue in having food go cold just because you are waiting for everyone to be served. The restaurant should have served everyone at the same time but often they do not.

WitchesCauldron · 08/05/2025 11:36

PooStep · 08/05/2025 08:17

Currently on holiday with DH, MIL, FIL, SIL and her husband.
Before we even got here they had all been going on about this specific breakfast in the specific restaurant that is a local speciality. It was decided we would go there on our first morning and get this item.
So first morning, this item is mentioned again and they’re all excited about getting it. The way they were going on I was assuming this item was all they sold in the morning so I said too I was up for trying it.

We got to the restaurant- sat down and FIL told the waitress we wanted 6 of said item. I then said “actually, I wouldn’t mind having a Quick Look at the menu?”. I saw MIL roll her eyes and I’m pretty sure SIL pulled a face too but can’t be certain. DH then whispered to me “don’t start this now for gods sake” !? Was asking for the menu really so bad? I’d noticed as we walked in that everyone was eating different things so clearly there was more on offer than this one item. I ended up choosing something different, I didn’t realise however that mine would take longer to arrive so I was sat without anything while they all ate theirs. SILs husband did say “shall we wait until Poostep’s arrives?” And MIL said “no I don’t think so, we came in for these didn’t we, I don’t want mine going cold”. So they all ate. Mine arrived 15 minutes later and naturally I was sat eating on my own after they all finished.
later DH asked me if I was going to be seeking attention throughout the holiday. So were they right to be annoyed?

Poostep? How old is he, 5??

They sound like nobs OP

Butchyrestingface · 08/05/2025 11:36

BustingBaoBun · 08/05/2025 11:32

Nowhere has the OP said she ordered a full English , maybe the service was rubbish for her particular dish

Why are posters making up but she ordered a full English while they had a pastry

Nobody is making anything up. It’s a guess about what MIGHT have happened. I haven’t seen anyone putting it forward as Gospel Truth.

OP’s breakfast appears to have been more involved given the additional preparation time. But she’s declined to clarify what either dish is so it’s purely guesswork. She’s the one who appears to be put out by the fact that the rest of the group didn’t wait for her order to arrive before tucking into theirs.

Cakeandusername · 08/05/2025 11:37

nomas · 08/05/2025 11:33

I can’t eat egg based desserts in the morning. I’m sure they would have hated it more if it had been me and I had thrown up all over the table.

Everyone is allowed to eat what they want.

But that’s totally different. If you are allergic you’d have never agreed to go for an egg pastry in first place. Presumably you’d have had a conversation with them/checked online if the bakery do other food. If yes I’ll come and order something, no I’ll eat at apartment and meet you at museum at 10 etc.

stayathomer · 08/05/2025 11:37

You just all sound very different- I disagree that there’s any issue with your dh though- imagine being stuck in the middle of that one!!!

BustingBaoBun · 08/05/2025 11:37

SoMuchBadAdvice · 08/05/2025 11:31

Yes, it's what people who go on holiday together tend to do most of the time.

Edited

That sounds like hell to me

No wonder I didn't want to do huge family holidays. Awful

UndermyShoeJoe · 08/05/2025 11:37

I think it’s a bit of this and a bit do that.

However breakfast is 9/10 are getting say a croissant and your waiting for cooked food yabu

Drinks I don’t like pineapple so would have very quickly seen if anything caught my eye during the question so answer straight away sorry no I’m fine or do you mind if I get the orange one.

Hair drying and coffee while everyone’s waited for you to shower already to go out for the day. If of gone without you. Nothing worse than someone else making the day waste away on your paid for holiday.

nomas · 08/05/2025 11:38

Cakeandusername · 08/05/2025 11:37

But that’s totally different. If you are allergic you’d have never agreed to go for an egg pastry in first place. Presumably you’d have had a conversation with them/checked online if the bakery do other food. If yes I’ll come and order something, no I’ll eat at apartment and meet you at museum at 10 etc.

It’s no different at all. Everyone should have the right to choose from the menu.

I can’t believe I’m having to explain this to a group of grown women.

Calliopespa · 08/05/2025 11:38

SoMuchBadAdvice · 08/05/2025 11:31

Yes, it's what people who go on holiday together tend to do most of the time.

Edited

Indeed. It happens in lots of group situations - school trips, group meals out etc.

Its part of functioning as a group. Some people are ciearly just not cut out for it but that doesn’t make them somehow superior or resistant to misogny or any other rubbish. Her DH is fitting in. Is that “misogny?”

Id just call it what it is: being awkward.

BustingBaoBun · 08/05/2025 11:38

Butchyrestingface · 08/05/2025 11:36

Nobody is making anything up. It’s a guess about what MIGHT have happened. I haven’t seen anyone putting it forward as Gospel Truth.

OP’s breakfast appears to have been more involved given the additional preparation time. But she’s declined to clarify what either dish is so it’s purely guesswork. She’s the one who appears to be put out by the fact that the rest of the group didn’t wait for her order to arrive before tucking into theirs.

I have seen two or three posts saying it like it is fact

PassOnThat · 08/05/2025 11:38

nomas · 08/05/2025 11:30

Lots of misogyny on this thread. The OP is a just a little woman who should do as she’s told and shouldn’t expect any agency. How dare she try to choose her own breakfast and drink? How dare she not be a mind reader and be ready on time when she hasn’t been told what that time is?

OP, my advice is to never go on holiday with PIL again and give your DH short shrift next time he tries to order you about. Tell him he is not your keeper.

I agree with this. My ILs consider my DH's preferences but never mine. My parents also respect my DH's preferences and give them a lot of space, and part of that I know is driven by him being a man and my mother having a slightly odd deferential attitude that I'm not sure she even recognises herself. But it doesn't matter so much because she and I plan most things around the children's needs and show consideration to each other, and are quite relaxed about people wanting to do or eat different things. My ILs, not at all.

The consequence of having my needs disregarded on so many occasions is that now I completely zone out when I'm around my ILs for more than half a day. It's a shame because they're quite nice people and mean well, but the idea of "live and let live" is completely foreign to them. I never express any opinions or preferences because I'll be told that I'm wrong. I just count the hours until we can go home.

Cakeandusername · 08/05/2025 11:39

BustingBaoBun · 08/05/2025 11:32

Nowhere has the OP said she ordered a full English , maybe the service was rubbish for her particular dish

Why are posters making up but she ordered a full English while they had a pastry

Someone said was it cinnamon bun v cooked full English and Op replied very similar scenario. You can click just to see Ops updates.

AngelicKaty · 08/05/2025 11:39

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 08/05/2025 11:24

But the “entire group” has not decided something - the PIL seem to decide something - their kids are used to doing as they are told, the OP doesn’t have any input and is expressing her own needs. Where are the PIL compromising in any of this? When you say compromise, what you actually mean is “just follow the herd”

I was replying to the scenario @ClownStar describes, not OP's.
And as I've previously posted, I'm on the fence with this thread. I think OP should have gone along with the first breakfast - she'd never tried this particular food item either so "trying something different" (something different to something she's also never tried before!) just seems a bit contrary and not a great way to start the holiday. There are several other breakfasts to come for her to try other things. I also wouldn't have wanted the pineapple cocktail, but if the offer from FIL is "do you want one DIL?" her answer should have been "no thanks" because it doesn't seem like the offer was for any cocktail. Regarding getting up and out early would have annoyed me too (because it takes me ages to get ready!) and I would have wanted to be told about the plans the previous evening so I could ensure I was up early enough to join them (if I wanted to) but I wouldn't have kept the group waiting while I carefully dried my hair and then got myself a coffee (she could have chosen not to wash her hair, or rough-dried it on this one day whilst her DH brought her a coffee to drink while she finished getting ready - quickly).
I can see both sides of the argument, but my comment still stands - they all need to learn how to compromise and rub along with each other, but if I were OP, I wouldn't be going on any future PIL-funded family holidays unless I could learn to do that.

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