To wonder what Starmer was thinking with this one

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Indian nationals being cheaper to hire in the UK? Not paying NI contributions? What is the massive gain we get from this? As a life-long Labour voter this is just another policy that makes me want to cry. He just doesn’t get it, does he?

It only applies to Indian companies bringing over Indian nationals. I don’t believe this was negotiated under Labour but, I suspect, Sunak. Although Starmer still gets it in the neck 😂

Reform is the party run by Nigel Farage which was formerly known as the Brexit Party.

If there are people voting for Reform who were against Brexit then that is rather bizarre on their part.

One of the much lauded benefits of Brexit was the ability to make our own trade deals. This is one of them. And still they are not happy?

I'm not sure how he gets out of bed and scratches his own balls of a morning tbh

Pure insanity. It's hard enough for (young) people to get a job as it is and this is bound to make it so much worse, especially when UK companies have been hammered with NI employer hikes just last month, so no incentive to hire new workers. Absolutely terrible optics from Labour.

Anyone who thinks you can have a trade deal without giving things away is terribly stupid.

The NI thing is reciprocal so any Uk worker in India won’t pay the equivalent of NI there.

There are so many good things for British exporters in this deal, especially reduced tariffs on Whisky and Cars. Also clothes made in India when imported into the Uk, will be cheaper for us.
But let’s not talk about the good things.

It’s for Indian employees of Indian firms seconded to the U.K. Doesn’t affect U.K. employment at all.

the Indian rate is 24% (employer and employee) so there is no real saving to either employer or employee

this is purely to ensure individuals who go on a short term secondment do not lose access to their home social security (eg in the UK you don’t miss years paid in for state pension purposes)

this is only for people who are going on short term secondment

I'm no fan of the current governments economic plans but this is a complete storm in a tea cup and shows that people wilfully don’t want to understand

Cheap clothes?

We are drowning in cheap clothes. The planet is drowning in cheap clothes.

He's so bad it's almost funny to watch isn't he. Who knows why he does what he does - but he is the PM and labour were voted in so...

I don’t think that’s fair. Sometimes it’s not wilful ignorance but an inability by Labour to properly communicate and get ahead of the curve?

FFS, India is one of the only countries we can fully trust these days. It is fine. Even Apple are producing their iPhones there now.

This is exactly the sort of deal we did Brexit for. Farage can't have it both ways.

This is a completely normal arrangement for temporary workers, one the UK already has with other countries. So I take it you just don’t want Indian people temporarily working in the UK?

Even a London grammar school is setting up a partner school in India. People need to see the bigger picture. A trade deal with India is a good thing. They manufacture a lot of stuff cheaply and we need that. They also have IT capacity, brilliant mathematicians. What we should be doing is getting our Higher Education model into India, for example, so our unis benefit as they do not have enough unis there.

Why? We have landed a deal with a larger and rapidly growing economy. At a time when world trade is going tits up. We have made it fair that people placed in either country from their respective home countries pay ni in their home country and can return to the benefits of it.

What would you rather have. Personally I'd like to make us as self sufficient as possible, close all the boarders, have no external trade unit that's achieved...but it's 2025 not 1025 so that's impossible, we live in a global economy and need to trade in the world platform

It’s a con to allow more unchecked immigration.

Why employ locals eh? Just set up a company with Indian domain and hire people from abroad, dodge the tax due, undercut local wages. Robert’s your dad’s brother.

Just watch, it won’t be genuine capital flowing into the country as a result of this bogus trade deal. It’ll be bogus foreign companies, bringing in low skilled labour, paying them even less than local labour costs, piling more pressure into public services through arrivals of extended families, low paid migrant labour is not net contributing.

Higher immigration, lower tax receipts, lower GDP per capita, more people using public services they don’t earn enough to pay for.

What an absolute disaster and a fraud.

But cheap clothes yeh?

Why is it fair that they pay NI in their country when they are physically here and will be getting medical treatment here?

Why should you and I be paying for that?

Not sure about boarders? Do you mean boarding schools? Why do you want them closed?

Because UK citizens will be doing the same thing when they work there

it’s for temporary visas isn’t it?

its entirely reasonable

How many UK citizens to how many Indian citizens?

is it going to be one in one out?

in my company we have been sending people to India on secondment for quite a few years

there are a lot of service centres out there and companies send staff out to set up/manage for a few years

so I would imagine there are a lot of Brits going over

and don’t forget the company won’t pay uk NI but will pay Indian equivalent which is quite high so there’s no saving there

unchecked immigration.

No, this isn't freedom of movement, they'll need to apply for work visas.

I think you’ll find that India has many booming industries and lots of UK professionals would
be keen to work tbere

i suspect you may have a very over inflated view of the UK’s superior desirability as a place for professionals to work compared to India.

Uk citizens have no incentive to work in India. The financials just don’t add up. UK has 50x the GDP per capita of India. Not for long though, the way this moronic government is carrying on.

This bogus ‘trade deal’ will lead to traffic one way only.

They’ll be working for their own companies in India. It’s from seconded workers. Temporarily. Someone upthread has already said lots do it