To ask if you are not a Christian, what non Christian values you live by?

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Just that really!

I’m not in favour of either murder or killing really. Are Christians?

Try not to hurt people
Look after the people I love
Don't take people's stuff
Work hard
If what others are doing doesn't hurt people then it is fine (e.g. having relationships with other consenting adults etc.)
Pre-existing humans are more important than ones who are not yet born
Try not to fuck up the planet more

That's about all I can think of.

I'm Alexandrian wiccan. I live by Christian values. A lot of us are dual qualified Catholic and witch, it's frowned upon but you just don't go round telling everyone.

I believe in treating everyone the same. Homosexuals and women are equal members of society and deserve the same respect as everyone else.

Women and men should have equitable rights
My sex class was not made from Adam’s rib

Sex before marriage is fine for two consenting adults

I don’t try to convince others to be religious or follow the path I have chosen

Gay and lesbian people are welcome

I don’t preach at people, well not all the time anyway

They are values Co-opted by Judeo-Christian texts. They existed before any of the Abrahamic religions, and exist in other religious traditions now.

Completely agree. The reality is people lived in organised societies millennia before Christianity was invented. So the values and behaviours that make society livable predate Christianity by a mile. Christianity just co-opted some, codified them and then used scare tactics to control the population. It was then and is now all about power and money. So one could take the view that decent human values have been corrupted by religion…!

Not really sure what you mean OP. I believe the majority of human values are innate and neither Christian nor non-Christian, so I expect all people to have the same core values which are reflected in the law in civilised countries like ours.

it is fairly clear to me that Christianity is simply an ancient system of population control, partly via fear, which is now largely obsolete. Why, in contrast, do you feel you need a book written and edited by a handful of men many hundreds of years ago to tell you what your values are?

ps one of my values is that if there was a ‘god’ why on earth would they judge people based on how much/how well they worship ‘him’? To me this is totally contradictory of any concept of values I perceive as ‘good’.

Science

I try to treat all with kindness. This seems to be something most Christians I come across struggle to do and is not a value they live by.

The social work code of ethics?

Christians don’t have a monopoly on being good people. In fact, in my experience, the opposite is often true.

they also don’t have the patent on rules to live by. Why anyone would think they have is an anathema to me.

I don’t pray. I don’t worry about what happens after I die. I just try and be a decent human being. I do t need the threat of damnation to make me do that. I do that because it’s just the right thing to do. I don’t need some 1st century bloke to tell me that.

I tend to go with these. I also see destroying people as being optional rather than a commandment

There's nothing wrong with being gay.

Women aren't second class citizens and should be able to do everything that any man can

You don't have to think like i do or you'll suffer for eternity.

80 year old virgins do not have a right to interfere in anybodys sex life. Or in our lives in any way really.

I quite honestly believe that my values are much better than a Christians.

This.

Yes. Have you heard of other books?

My values are mine. Many may align with the teachings of Christianity, but also with Buddhism, Hinduism, <insert religion of choice here>, and generally being a decent human.

I don't have to believe in God or Jesus to believe that I should treat others with respect and kindness. Or to be nice to others who have asked for clarification on a question you asked.

I have been thinking about this some more. I guess of the fundamentally non-Christian values that I have is the belief that we should make the very most of opportunities in this life because it is all that we have. And that we should do our very best to make a positive difference to the world for the same reason.

I also believe in a woman's right to choose what happens to her body. That's not a Christian value.

I believe there are a variety of countries that kill their criminals

China, Iran, USA, Egypt, Singapore, Iraq, Kuwait, Sudan, Somalia all kill some of their criminals.

Its an unchristian thing to murder someone

If you're using this as a way of saying you're "pro-life", that "definition" you speak of also varies across Christian's depending on their values. Some are pro-choice.

I grew up in the UK; the laws in the UK (equity, common law and statute) date back approximately a millennia. During that millennium the nations that made up what we now call the UK were Christian and this informed both the laws as ratified as statute and also the judicial decisions that form the body of common law and equity-based law.

Yes, there are some similarities between judeo-christianic teachings and philosophies and those of other religions… but there are also significant divergences. Marriage/monogamy, for instance? Marriage to one spouse is fairly unique to western legal systems and thus an expectation within our cultural values. Divorce was frowned upon until recently precisely because of the (christianic) religious roots of our understanding of monogamous marriages and family set-ups. Islam is also an ‘abrahamic’ religion… yet its implementation and the way it shapes culture and law in other countries is beyond divergent from our own cultural values… look to pretty much any middle eastern state (Dubai, Qatar, but Afghanistan especially) to see how our Christian values completely distinguish us from nations who do not share those same values.

Reason and critical thinking.

Not exclusively. That’s the point. You don’t have to be Christian to have those values. Other religions have them too. People of no religion have them, but not because they are Christian values. They are just good values.

I eat meat on Fridays

I was actually taking about this today woth my son. We were handed a leaflet in town centre, a Christian group were promoting their faith. I said I don't believe in this, but I live by values, such as being good and kind to others, respectful and enjoying nature.