To ask if you are not a Christian, what non Christian values you live by?

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Just that really!

The Golden Rule which has been found in every major religion since the Babylonians.

Treat others as you wish to be treated in the same circumstances.

Totally agree with Dairy .

Having heard of the Bible, I have come to realise that the Old Testament is referenced in many religions, not just Christianity. While it does contain tales and morals of Human values, it is also written with the spin of the patriachy of its time, and should therefore be read with that in mind.

Mine is Don't be a cunt.

Most people I meet in life are just getting on with their lives. I get on with mine.
I don't knowingly or deliberately piss people off, and would listen to someone who felt differently before deciding if they have a reasonable point.
I would like to be treated the same really.

I am an atheist.

Am not a Christian, but the laws of the uk - which shape most of our values and behaviours - are nonetheless shaped by and framed within our largely Christian history and traditions. So, regardless of my [lack of] spiritual beliefs, my values are Judeo-Christian. It’s unavoidable.

I second - Don't be a dick.

I have had some practicing Christians behave like dicks towards me, it's such a simple concept - easily over looked.

Treat others how you would hope to be treated yourself.

Just basic morality. Don't need a bible to tell me that.

I don't believe that my beliefs or values should impact other people. I don't agree with forcing others to do things because it aligns with what i believe. I don't believe in promoting religion. Teaching people who are interest, sure. But standing on streets shouting bible verses or insulting people under the guise of "helping" them, absolutely not.

I’m not religious and have never owned a bible. I’m not a twat, I don’t shag anyone behind my husbands back and I don’t steal stuff if that’s the type of values you mean? But I achieve all that because I’m a nice grown up and not because a book tells me to.

Yes, it was.

Because you OP was so vague, and possibly implied that Christianity is the source of values that many good people have in your use of ‘non Christian values’.

Ask better questions if you want better answers.

Such as ‘if you are not religious where do your values come from’, for example.

Nice try.
Islam strictly no borrowing with interest. No mortgage, no car loan & no credit card. No bank overdraft. No borrowing for business.

Modern definition of usury is not same as paying any interest. It paying very high interest.

Some Christians I’ve known have held decidedly dodgy views.

I'm not a Christian, but I was born and raised in a country where Christianity was the main religion, and I live in one now. That means that most of my values are influenced by Christianity. Christians now don't have a monopoly on value systems built through the last two thousand years

Heh heh heh...

Not a Satanist exactly but not far off their rules:

https://churchofsatan.com/eleven-rules-of-earth/

However, I am too apathetic to destroy those who bother me as per Rule 11. Unless it comes down to self defence.

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Ok, non christian values. Based on what I've seen of christian values in action.

Respect people irrespective of sexuality

Allow women to take control of their own fertility re: contraception and abortion

Be a decent person because it's the right thing to do, not because some all-seeing entity might know if we aren't

Accept your adult child's live-in partner even though they are not interested in your church, because they are a good person in their own right, and don't exclude her from said partner's funeral just because they weren't married

Is this the kind of thing you are looking for?

These are Jewish values, not Christian.

No.2 used to be a "thing" in Catholic and some C of E churches but has now fallen out of use since about 1960.
Infant mortality has fallen and fewer women die in childbirth

I am atheist. I do not believe there is any objective morality, societal views of “right” and “wrong” differ hugely across both time and geography, there is virtually nothing that has been considered wrong consistently. So the words are pretty meaningless really.

i live by the values that have evolved in order to allow society to operate and humans to live in groups. Broadly act utilitarian, although not if you take that to extremes. My life and that of those I love is better if I am nice to people, so I am kind, generous and empathetic. Life is better if society operates well and is stable and safe, so I support pooled investment in law and order, healthcare, education and maintaining out environment. I don’t break most laws, because i don’t want to do so enough for it to be worth the risk. I care about the planet, because it is the only one we have.

Ah! The Bible, that wonderful source of morality, which condones slavery, child sacrifice, rape and genocide.

It’s good to see a few people at least giving a nod to the fact our values system in the west is massively influenced by Christianity- whether the church has successfully abused by its own rules or not.

There are no ‘Universal Values’. Societies around the world see things very differently.

A Chinese friend tells me (rightly or wrongly) that philanthropy is not a very Chinese principle. Charity isn’t considered a universal good, more a risky enterprise that may cost you what you can’t afford, and does you no good.

There was a heroine in Chinese mythology who kept the elderly mother in law alive by breastfeeding her during a famine. Allowing her baby to die. That wouldn’t be considered a massively heroic act in the UK!

When we claim our western values are universal and not based on Christianity, we are likely to be wrong on both counts!

Thank you, this is a good response - you say you live by the values which evolved for our particular time and place - do you ever evaluate these from an "outsider" position/standpoint? And to what extent to you feel your own personal sense of right and wrong is a culturally shaped intuition, rather than a neutral acceptance that these are our norms. If that makes sense

Like the Parable of the Sower.
Seeds down on good ground grow well and are fruitful.
This is of course Christian, but reflected in all faiths. Like the ground is Important.
I am not a Christian, I have my own ethics which are of course influenced by the environment which surrounds me. Morals are these rules and differ wildly from culture to culture, but they are all equal.

My only rule I guess, is do no harm. I try my hardest in all that I do to follow that.

And I nearly forgot, murdering small children for laughing at bald men.

Whovian!

The seven virtues that were attributed to Plato predate Christianity and are also similar to Judaism.

But is the definition of harm not so subjective that this is virtually meaningless?