To ask if you are not a Christian, what non Christian values you live by?

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Just that really!

This

my BIL does this….its fucking irritating

That is incorrect.

Christianity does not claim to possess or take credit for all human virtues. While Christianity emphasizes specific virtues and their importance in living a life pleasing to God, it acknowledges that virtues exist independently of faith and can be developed through secular means as well.

You continue to be rude. You continue to double-down on comments to myself and others. You continue to ignore many, many commenters by posters who say they are Christian who contradict what you claim.

You are not showing good Christian values.

Perhaps reflect on what you have done. Have some self awareness.

I see you've been polishing some mirrors again 😆😆😆

You are not showing good Christian values.

And how would you know what they are if you aren't one ??

And yet so many people on here are saying that the values non-Christians are posting are Christian.

Values are values, irrespective of your faith. Some will cross faiths. Some will be held by people of faith and people with no religion. Many Christians, whether you encounter them or not, will tell you that a value is Christian regardless of whether it was held by people before Christianity was a thing or not.

@IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos And yet so many people on here are saying that the values non-Christians are posting are Christian.

As "Christian" isn't a Protected Title/Belief system there are bound to be crossovers.

Some people can't even agree what religious groups are "Christian" !

And yet any time any of us mention a broad human principle that applies to all faiths and none, we get told 'that's a Christian principle '. It's exhausting.

Not from me you don't.

I thought that you were aiming for this to come up when I read the title. Its a good question.
I notice that one of the first answers on the thread was ‘do unto others’ as a non Christian value.

Christianity has shaped the west so deeply that people don't realize that it is the source of almost all of their morality, its just so embedded that we automatically think it is right and can't imagine any other way of life. It is easy to believe they are human values.
But there are other systems and I promise you they are not all the same travel broadens the mind. I have lived in the ME and now in China peoples' morals and values are demonstrably different and I do believe it is due to the different histories and religions. If the West had not had Christianity history would have looked like game of thrones and we would probably be a lot more selfish and callous

Does it matter?

As long as people are being true to themselves, living a good life, being good people with good values that enhance human life without intentionally impacting the rest of the world negatively. Does it matter whether they are following any religion or not? Or what they call it?

I don´t know if this is a "non-christian" value, but I believe you should respect it when someone doesn't want to join your religion. Do not try to manipulate or disrespect someone for respectfully bowing out of your religion.

This thread is a perfect example of this. The poster tried to post a "gotcha" question as to why her (his?) religion is the only answer. I find it disrespectful. I would never try to make this poster abandon his or her faith, but I do not feel this is reciprocated.

I just try to be awesome at everything I do.

It is interesting to reflect that if a non Christian asked a Christian repeatedly what Christian values they lived by, but then denied every response as being valid then they’d be seen as disrespectful and attacking religion.

Yet, despite incontrovertible evidence that’s both a constant and predates Christianity by at least 5,000 years, when the question is framed the other way by the OP they seem to think it’s completely fine to put on some religious blinkers and take that very approach to non believers. I used to think that those that needed the crutch of religion to make sense of their lives were somehow lacking some meaning elsewhere in their life and, indeed, lacked the ability to critically analyse things. Perhaps I was right ;)

I think what this thread shows is that even ‘Christian’ values are not set because there is an incredibly wide range of values falling under the banner of Christianity. Not all Christians believe the Bible should be interpreted literally, not all are against gay marriage and gay rights, not all are anti-abortion, not all believe in hell or the literal requirement for forgiveness and redemption to escape hell. What falls within ‘Christian’ values has shifted enormously in recent decades.

I think this all reinforces how we as a society have views about what is right and wrong, some people ascribe this to religious teaching, others don’t, and essentially we have a common humanity.

It is awfully smug and annoying for any religious group to lay claim to particular values and suggest that those who are non-religious are somehow influenced by their religion. I wish they could see how this is offensive and patronising to those of us who are not religious, but I don’t think they want to see a different point of view.

Well, @Tryingtokeepgoing I've often thought along much the same lines. That someone who must follow a set of rules for their behaviour and beliefs just isn't that bright. I try to be tolerant , but I think you might be on to something.

The value of living my life with the assumption there’s no god is pretty non-Christian I suppose.

As someone one said, religion is proof of the cleverness of the few and the gullibility of the many ;)

I'm glad you raised the child marraige issue, which is shockingly prevalent among American Christians, and sees young girls (the youngest known being 10 years old) forced to marry their rapists, due to regional understandings of "Christian values".

Obviously, most Christians find that abhorrent, too, but I think it really underscores that "Christian values" is a very nebulous concept.

Precisely this

I don't think it's a good take. I'd say pre-exiating European moral beliefs influenced Christianity at least as much as the other way around. Christians morality did not emerge in a vacuum, was not revolutionary and has been moulded and influenced by external political and moral societal changes.

No, I don't live by any values because they are Christian or because they are in the bible though I am sure that a lot of my values are the same as that of Christians/bible followers. I am an atheist and i dislike the idea of blindly holding values because someone has told you to.

I don't have any absolute values but I feel empathy for my fellow living beings and want to live in a kind and mutually beneficial society so my main value is to be good to everyone including myself.

We disagree.

I mean, even if we just look at our own lifetimes, Christianity's increased tolerance of same-sex relationships is clearly not something that emerged internally but was influenced by wider societal changes.

This isn't a new phenomenon. Women's rights is another area where Christianity has (for the most part, in Europe) eventually "moved with the times" and, based on the last couple of pages, your own beliefs in that area are drawn more from prevalent modern beliefs than they are from scripture.

You can have an awareness of the teachings and ascribed values of a faith without having one.

Just as it has really clear you're quite rude.