To think that not speaking to your own son is not a good look for the King ?

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Don’t get me wrong I think Harry has been a bit of an entitled burk but even so I was shocked that there has not been a reconciliation between Harry and Megan and the King and Queen at least to be civil to each other .
Refusing to even speak just seems like sulking to me !
That said I don’t think Harry telling the world and washing yet more dirty laundry in public is going to help matters .

Maybe some folk will think this comment belongs in the Royal Family thread rather than AIBU but it’s more about mumsnet standards ( sulking is not good ) and whether they should apply to those in high office .

Even JFK and Krushev had a hotline after the Cuban Crisis !

He only gets security if he is invited on a Royal visit, much like Princess Anne only gets security on official duties. However the threat level is did not go down when his full time armed security was removed. Anyway I think its difficult for Charles to be head of the CofE and not follow their teachings around forgiveness.

The hatred on these four pages is disappointing.
And perhaps Charles and William are not angry that Harry wrote a book, because Charles wrote a scathing book about his own parents. Elizabeth II and Phillip were quite forgiving.
Perhaps they’re angry because Harry told the truth. Why else would they be so angry and upset? The truth makes people incensed.
Just a thought.
Not my family.
Not my business.

Boo hoo cry me a river as his septuagenarian father has been dealing with cancer.....whilst Harry's been fannying about in USA with his media hungry wife.

I believe Charles probably loves Harry dearly but he can’t run the risk of recorded phone calls, divulging information to the press about his illness and his plans etc. He probably also worries what talking to Harry and them him blabbing to the press/book/Netflix would do not only to the public’s view of him but how it reflects on the monarchy and William, and whether William would forgive him if he gave Harry more fodder for his interviews.
I think Charles has very little choice but to be NC beyond the vaguest of pleasantries, and I wonder if he’d find it harder to do that than to not speak at all.

I just watched the interview. It’s not that Charles doesn’t want to speak to him, Charles cannot speak to him while this was going through court? Am I wrong?

A complete prick. Imagine nearing the end of your life and not speaking to your son because of some pointless shit about security.

Get rid of the royals

I agree

having just watched the interview Harry did a lot of insinuating about who was behind the decision to remove his security protection. Never naming names, but making sure we know it was someone in the royal household.

Last time Harry was over he was offered a place to stay at Buckingham Palace, but he said he couldn’t because it didn’t have a back entrance /exit so wasn’t secure enough for the press to not know where he was going. None of the other royals have ever had this problem. He would have been in a secure guarded property. I don’t for a second believe that there isn’t a back entrance. The fruit and veg don’t go through the main doors.

One minute Harry says he wants to reconcile and in the next breath he’s complaining that the royal family is behind the security decision, it’s all an attempt to manipulate him and make him do stuff, blah, blah, blah. You can see why the RF doesn’t engage.

Ah the misogynistic "must be the woman's fault" as if Harry was perfectly happy before he met her.

Not one of Thomas Markle's grandchildren speaks to him.

I was amazed that this interview was the lead story on both bbc news and sky at 10pm . Sky even interrupted the coverage of the local elections to report it as breaking news earlier . Probably no bad thing as the fillers whilst they wait for results to come in is usually dire ….

I have only heard a few bits but the part that struck me was him saying he is willing to forgive them . There was no mention of him accepting that he had perhaps made mistakes ( Oprah , Spare , netflix etc ) and would also ask for forgiveness from them . Obviously he didn’t need to spell out these but could be a bit vague and accept that he too had made mistakes .

Surely for any reconcilation to happen both parties have to accept that they made mistakes .

I do agree with what others have said that it would be really difficult for the RF to trust him going forward and that he wouldn’t report what was said ( or his interpretation of it ) to the press .
One of the major sticking points for H& M is they can bleat on about the press but their ( financial ) survival rests upon being current and newsworthy .

That is tellingly the very expensive lifestyle that they have chosen . They didn’t go away and lead a quiet and more modest lifestyle and keep out of the press .

The personalities of H& M make it very difficult for them to shut up and they are constantly trying to establish that they are the wronged ones and the victims in all of this . I do accept that they were no doubt thrown under the bus at various points when the RF sought to deflect from other stories .

I do accept that H & M were vilified in the press ( especially ) the tabloids and there may have been an element of racism for this as it was clear that K & M did not get the same treatment.
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I really can’t see a way forward here , H & M are so deeply entrenched in their version of events . It is noteworthy that M seems at least not to be keen on doing joint interviews / events as the default, as she is obviously trying to establish her lifestyle site .

Personally I wouldn't blame him for not speaking to his idiot son. However, are you really so naive that you believe everything that comes out of his stupid mouth?

So PPs who think KC is a terrible person for not welcoming Harry back into the family: if your family member wrote a book about (supposed) very personal things that had happened, how would you feel? Do you think you would feel able to speak openly with them ever again?

I can't see how any of his family could ever trust him again, tbh

Such a tell-all book would sell like hot cakes. I remember what it was like when the Morton book on Diana came out. And what about when the papers leaked Charles's conversation about how jealous he was of Camilla's tampon because it was in her nunni instead of him? We couldn't get enough of it.

Well, the Corleones learned not to say anything in front of Fredo and that was a good move too.

Well his own parents welcomed him after he wrote a book saying they were terrible parents.

I'd say that leaking things to journalists (as several journalists have admitted) is worse than writing it yourself.

You do realise the royal family’s pr machine is constantly feeding the press personal information

do you really think Charles has absolutely no say ever in what the press is informed of

Most of us aren't worried about relatives revealing our "secret" indiscretions because we don't have anything much to either conceal or reveal.

I'm sure he does know his family better than I do, they're all awful as far as I'm concerned, but if his own family want him and his wife dead why on earth does he want to reconcile with them?? Why go on TV to stir the shit? He's inviting me to have an opinion by airing his dirty washing tbh

Harry and William were both given the choice.

Prince Philip encouraged them but he had walked behind his sister and her three children & newborn baby when he himself was only 16

It's not like wasn't something he hadn't done himself when he was also very young.

Harry had been at boarding school for 4 years by the time Diana died. It wasn't something new to them.

He has also been a victim of 'the firm', but he recognises that responsibility and sacrifice is the flip side to the huge amount of privilege they have.

The whole institution is so far removed from modern life and most people's reality, it's cruel all round.

Harry has committed the ultimate betrayal in that sphere, it's difficult for us normals to understand.

Yes, on passports the recognition goes on the eyes /nose / mouth triangle. Harry looks very much like Charles.

He did,, maybe he has regrets now, folk can and do change

Firstly, whatever this whinging tw*t says cannot be relied on as truth, and secondly, would you speak to a family member who cashed in by selling whatever you said? Perhaps they do speak and exchange greetings, we don't know, but neither the King nor any other of the RF are going to do more than that. I find it amazing that Harry and Meghan seem unable to comprehend this (along with many other things).

that

This.

You can't trust a word Harry says as he'll just use it for publicity/financial gain.