To think that not speaking to your own son is not a good look for the King ?

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Don’t get me wrong I think Harry has been a bit of an entitled burk but even so I was shocked that there has not been a reconciliation between Harry and Megan and the King and Queen at least to be civil to each other .
Refusing to even speak just seems like sulking to me !
That said I don’t think Harry telling the world and washing yet more dirty laundry in public is going to help matters .

Maybe some folk will think this comment belongs in the Royal Family thread rather than AIBU but it’s more about mumsnet standards ( sulking is not good ) and whether they should apply to those in high office .

Even JFK and Krushev had a hotline after the Cuban Crisis !

Everything. What are they so scared of her knowing?

Bollocks. It’s a rite they had to do because that’s what you do. Like other 13 year olds going to their mums funerals and having to throw flowers or stand by graves.
Nothing to do with how you grieve with your family in private after the formal bit.

No, most of us aren't bothered because (short of criminal offences), no-one would really care.

But, anyway, the fact is that Harry chose to have a book published about apparently very personal family matters. What he said may be true (I can't claim to be an expert on the royal family). but inevitably his family won't feel able to have honest conversations with him again.

actually @imfae makes a good point, it was a good day for Labour to bury the bad news about the local election results...

🤨🤨 there’s always one!

Imagine having cancer and not being able to talk to your own son because he will cash in on your personal information and splash it all over the media.

H is definitely a Royal. He looks a lot like Philip. The red hair comes from Diana’s father and siblings, not Hewitt. If Hewitt were blond or brown-haired, no one would be calling him Harry’s bio father because there is no other likeness really, other than the unusual colouring (which is also present in the Spencers).

It’s funny watching this over-privileged lot bicker and squabble, but there’s an elderly man with cancer at the heart of it which makes it less amusing than it was 18 months ago.

Maybe it was the court case he couldn’t talk about - essentially Harry is taking ‘the crown’ to court. But do you really think an educated, reflective, ageing poorly man like Charles is petulantly ‘not speaking’ to his son about ‘pointless shit’? Just have a little think, further than the end of your nose, about why he might be devastated, betrayed and feeling like he can’t talk to Harry…

It's very tiresome when the pro-Harry and Meghan types come out of the woodwork on these threads, asking why everyone hates the whinging duo. NOBODY cares enough to hate them (maybe look up the meaning of the word?), but a public figure constantly whinging in the media, telling lies, exploiting others for payment, and being a massive hypocrite, is ALWAYS going to attract well-deserved negative comments, no matter who they are.

So we only have his view on all this so the public just believes this?

And i am neutral on the royals

It's berk not burk, Meghan not Megan, Kruschev not Krushev, and your punctuation is all over the place.

Given his track record, I'm highly sceptical of anything that Harry says. Just because it's "his truth" doesn't make it the truth.

In addition, Harry clearly cannot be trusted so the risk in having a conversation with him would be that the information is then divulged in Harry's next interview or book.

He's a snake, I wouldn't trust him either.

I think this is it.
Charles loves him dearly, remember him walking Meghan down the aisle, taking her Mums arm as they left the church.

It's trust that has gone.
Charles doesn't trust him. And more importantly William doesn't trust him. William guards his families privacy dearly too and I think it would really hurt William if the smallest snippet got out about his children.
I think they were testing him around the Queens death. Telling him stuff like she'd be flown or she'd be going on the train that was all leaked to the press. The plan had been made years earlier for what was to happen should HMQ die in Balmoral or other residences.

Harry probably keeps calling when Charles is in the bath or on the loo - my mum has that timing!

I appreciate that writing a book about your family is going to put the cat amongst the pigeons. However, I find it absolutely gobsmacking that Charles won't reconcile with Harry and yet he allows his pervert of a brother to attend royal public gatherings as part of the family.

What I find Unbe-FUCKING-lievable is the fact that what he is accusing his father and brother of is EXACTLY what he and meghan are doing to her father - for pretty much the same reasons. And nobody seems to be pointing this out to them!

He publicised preparing for his visit to the U.K. for their wedding and did an interview/s and they have completely disowned him, even when he’s had severe health scares - they’ve written him off, no going back. Haven’t seen him for years - Harry and their kids have never met him!

Now they’re saying times short and life is precious, referring to Charles and his cancer - what about her dad and his heart problems, and whatever else he has, given he’s not exactly getting any younger either, and yet they couldn’t give two shits about him bc he isn’t worth anything to them in monetary or promotional to their brand terms.

Harry and his wife have given multiple interviews, he’s written a book, (he said he could write more) -isn’t she writing one now? - with in-depth, deeply personal information about his close family (who are fucking royalty with the eyes of the world on them and a reputation to try to maintain), not just his experiences but actual private information about them that he has now shared with the world without any of their permission.

And yet they both feel entitled to reconcile, now that they’ve got their grievances off their collective chest and told everybody about them, and wonder why they won’t be warmly accepted by the people they strongly criticised and betrayed. What the actual fuck?

Try forgiving meghans dad for a start maybe?

How can they not see the blatant double standard and hypocrisy?

I think the bottom line to that is Andrew knows when to keep his mouth shut. Harry doesn't

Harry is the equivalent of the village rent a mouth. If you want the world to know tell Harry.

He and M tried to play that card with the whole fake car chase through NY thing but a photo from that 'incident' shows H, M and Doria in the back of the car and none of them are wearing seat belts! Wouldn't you be paranoid about using seat belts if you were him? He is a self centred twat, if I were Charles I wouldn't talk to him either!

I guess that's true and quite worrying. But I find Andrew's public presence in the royal family a lot more insulting than anything Harry and Meghan have done.

Charles, like most royals, has repeatedly put the institution ahead of his own family. Not sure why anyone would think that'll change just because he's about to croak.

I wonder if William will extend the olive branch when Charlie is gone? 🤔

You're assuming Harry is actually telling the truth. He's not a reliable source of accurate information.

If it's true though I don't actually blame Charles. Who wants to talk to someone who is probably just trying to sell a story and doesn't care who they hurt on the way.

If Charles posted on Mumsnet about a child who lies and constantly causes family upset, he'd be told to go no contact.

Well, the irony is not lost on me that the head of the Church of England has no forgiveness in him for his own son. But then quite a few so-called Christians seem to have been at the back of the queue when they were handing out values. I don't actually dislike Charles, or any of the royals except Andy really. But their hypocrisy is staggering.

Why would you believe what Harry has said??

And if your son had written a book about you, why would you trust them ever again? 🤷🏼‍♀️

you reap what you sow.

Forgiving Harry and trusting him to not give another interview that causes distress to the family are two different things. He may well have forgiven him, but that doesn’t mean he has to give him the opportunity to produce more material for Netflix

What hypocrisy? How on earth do you know Charles hasn’t forgiven Harry? Has Charles come out and said so?

Forgiving someone does not mean forgetting what’s happened nor does it mean you’re obligated to carry on a relationship; especially if it leaves you open to continuing hurt and upset.

It’s entirely possible to forgive someone, wish them well but carry without them in your life - no one is entitled to be in anyone’s life. Forgiveness doesn’t mean being a doormat and it certainly doesn’t mean that just because you forgive, you’re not entitled to your own boundaries.

If you want to talk about hypocrisy and forgiveness though, look no further than Meghan’s Dad; funny how there’s no forgiveness for him, don’t you think?