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Accused of racism by client

399 replies

stample · 02/05/2025 20:17

I work and deal with clients daily, I spoke to a regular client being polite and civil, and they too were civil back only to get home and email my manager saying I had implied a racist remark towards them. My manager knows this was not the case and responded back. For reference I am white with black children and the client was black (they wouldn’t know anything about my personal life)
AIBU to mention this when I next see them, obviously apologise if they thought what I said was racist and then to say my family are black…

OP posts:
YourTruthorMine · 02/05/2025 21:10

Unfortunately , there are a lot of manipulators out there, who are desperate to see themselves as victims. Sounds like you could be the victim of one of these.

TheCountofMountingCrispBags · 02/05/2025 21:33

obviously apologise if they thought what I said was racist and then to say my family are black…

That is not an apology, it's a cop out. In any situation (not specifically this one) if one's words or actions offend someone, even if we did not mean them to do so, you cannot invalidate their feelings by saying 'if they thought'. It implies that they are in the wrong for misiterpreting your words and taking offence.

Shatandfattered · 02/05/2025 22:32

Is the client the service user or a parent or guardian of the care receiver?
I would think their individual medical/learning abilities would be relevant here. At least in regards to professionalism and likelihood of it being actioned upon. However, its also important to take on board that innocent things have triggered the service user so i would think the way to move forward would perhaps be a conversation with them and your manager for them to be able to voice what things trigger them and how the team can apply that knowledge going forward.

StarTwirl · 02/05/2025 22:39

stample · 02/05/2025 20:38

Genuinely it’s care work for SEND individuals. I gave general feedback about eating habits and mentioned they had eaten watermelon.
The client in person smiled and said ok but in the email said the individual doesn’t like watermelon and what was the carer implying

that’s a strange one

I got accused of being racist by a parent at an after school club because I said cheeky monkey to my own DS. I was mortified and just found it bizarre. I am white as is DS. The complainant was mixed race or black with a mixed race DS. The parent complained to a teacher who relayed it back to me. It pissed me off actually that someone would throw around accusations like that.

Dontlletmedownbruce · 02/05/2025 22:40

Sorry I don't understand. What does watermelon have to do with anything? There is obviously some racial slur or context here that I don't know about. If I don't understand it then I'm sure there are others that don't either, it's obviously not a widespread racist term so it doesn't seem right to be offended by it if made innocently.

Symond · 02/05/2025 22:43

I am not familiar with any secondary meaning to the word “watermelon”?

I’m thinking Harry Styles and Dirty Dancing. Got nothing else?

ArtTheClown · 02/05/2025 22:46

Sorry I don't understand. What does watermelon have to do with anything?

It's a US stereotype about black people.

Symond · 02/05/2025 22:47

TheCountofMountingCrispBags · 02/05/2025 21:33

obviously apologise if they thought what I said was racist and then to say my family are black…

That is not an apology, it's a cop out. In any situation (not specifically this one) if one's words or actions offend someone, even if we did not mean them to do so, you cannot invalidate their feelings by saying 'if they thought'. It implies that they are in the wrong for misiterpreting your words and taking offence.

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ArtTheClown · 02/05/2025 22:52

That is not an apology, it's a cop out. In any situation (not specifically this one) if one's words or actions offend someone, even if we did not mean them to do so, you cannot invalidate their feelings by saying 'if they thought'. It implies that they are in the wrong for misiterpreting your words and taking offence.

If someone takes offense at something patently ridiculous they should not be pandered to.

saveforthat · 02/05/2025 22:52

stample · 02/05/2025 20:38

Genuinely it’s care work for SEND individuals. I gave general feedback about eating habits and mentioned they had eaten watermelon.
The client in person smiled and said ok but in the email said the individual doesn’t like watermelon and what was the carer implying

Hang on. Watermelon is racist now? Why?

Opine · 02/05/2025 23:02

@Sometimeswinning Having black children does not mean you can’t be racist. It really doesn’t.

steff13 · 02/05/2025 23:03

saveforthat · 02/05/2025 22:52

Hang on. Watermelon is racist now? Why?

The "watermelon controversy" refers to the racist stereotype associating African Americans with watermelon, particularly in the Jim Crow era. This stereotype, originating in the Southern United States, was a backlash against African Americans gaining economic self-sufficiency after emancipation. While watermelons were a symbol of freedom and self-reliance for many African Americans, they were weaponized by white southerners to portray them as lazy, childish, and uncivilized.^^

zzpleb · 02/05/2025 23:04

@saveforthat - it's an American thing. I think it's origins are very old but I'm not going to Google it and get it entrenched in my mind any further. As far as I'm concerned watermelons are imported fruit we get in the UK and which are very heavy to carry home from the supermarket.

MrsMappFlint · 02/05/2025 23:12

Do not apologise. He should be apologising to you for making a stupid and malicious complaint.

Don't offer an explanation and say as little as possible to him going forward or ask if someone else can deal with him,

DreamTheMoors · 02/05/2025 23:17

zzpleb · 02/05/2025 23:04

@saveforthat - it's an American thing. I think it's origins are very old but I'm not going to Google it and get it entrenched in my mind any further. As far as I'm concerned watermelons are imported fruit we get in the UK and which are very heavy to carry home from the supermarket.

I’m American and yes - but it’s old and worn out.
It was always awful and always racist.
If someone is offended by the word “watermelon,” they’re filling in blanks that simply aren’t there.

SapphireSeptember · 02/05/2025 23:18

@steff13 Sounds like the offended party is one of those terminally online people. I like to use the phrase 'this is the internet, not America' when people start that nonsense up. (Edit, not aiming that at you by the way!)

Thank you for the history lesson though. 😊 How does (I presume) cultivating watermelons make someone lazy, childish and uncivilised? (Answers on a postcard please.) I do wonder at the nonsense people will pull out of their arses to be offensive. Besides that, watermelons are yummy. 😊

steff13 · 02/05/2025 23:20

SapphireSeptember · 02/05/2025 23:18

@steff13 Sounds like the offended party is one of those terminally online people. I like to use the phrase 'this is the internet, not America' when people start that nonsense up. (Edit, not aiming that at you by the way!)

Thank you for the history lesson though. 😊 How does (I presume) cultivating watermelons make someone lazy, childish and uncivilised? (Answers on a postcard please.) I do wonder at the nonsense people will pull out of their arses to be offensive. Besides that, watermelons are yummy. 😊

Edited

I have no idea. I tried to grow watermelon last summer and they all died. As far as I'm concerned it's crazy difficult.

I didn't know the origins myself; I just knew it had racist connotations.

Sometimeswinning · 02/05/2025 23:21

Opine · 02/05/2025 23:02

@Sometimeswinning Having black children does not mean you can’t be racist. It really doesn’t.

We can differ on what we think then.

bluesinthenight · 02/05/2025 23:22

nadine90 · 02/05/2025 21:00

There is some history of watermelons being used in racist tropes. But if the person was eating watermelon, that was just factual and I imagine working with SEND that was an important detail relating to what the person likes to eat. You’ve done nothing wrong, but if you have to work with this person going forward then you might just want to clear up with them the reason you mentioned it and that you weren’t implying anything x

The client said they hadn't eaten watermelon, so why was the watermelon remark brought up?

shuggles · 02/05/2025 23:23

@stample For reference I am white with black children and the client was black (they wouldn’t know anything about my personal life)

"I'm not racist because I married a black person. Also, I can't be sexist because I married a woman.*

MooMooMoooove · 02/05/2025 23:24

Sorry the post is hard to grasp, you were accused of being racist because you said/put in your notes they eat watermelon as part of their diet and they have said they don’t like watermelon?

LeftieRightsHoarder · 02/05/2025 23:25

TheCountofMountingCrispBags · 02/05/2025 21:33

obviously apologise if they thought what I said was racist and then to say my family are black…

That is not an apology, it's a cop out. In any situation (not specifically this one) if one's words or actions offend someone, even if we did not mean them to do so, you cannot invalidate their feelings by saying 'if they thought'. It implies that they are in the wrong for misiterpreting your words and taking offence.

But they are in the wrong if they misinterpret an innocent statement and then make a potentially harmful accusation. Their feelings are not OP’s responsibility in this case, because they are not what OP could have expected. OP’s words were factual and the complainer had no reason to be offended. It’s not OP’s fault she has encountered someone who apparently looks for things to be offended by.

steff13 · 02/05/2025 23:25

bluesinthenight · 02/05/2025 23:22

The client said they hadn't eaten watermelon, so why was the watermelon remark brought up?

I believe the OP told the client's (parent?) that the client are some watermelon, and the parent said the client doesn't like watermelon. So presumably she said that the person ate watermelon because they had eaten some watermelon.

MrsMappFlint · 02/05/2025 23:25

TheCountofMountingCrispBags · 02/05/2025 21:33

obviously apologise if they thought what I said was racist and then to say my family are black…

That is not an apology, it's a cop out. In any situation (not specifically this one) if one's words or actions offend someone, even if we did not mean them to do so, you cannot invalidate their feelings by saying 'if they thought'. It implies that they are in the wrong for misiterpreting your words and taking offence.

You have offended me by referring to Crisp Bags in your name as I am addicted to crisps, am 18 stone overweight-wheezing and sensitive- and feel that you are taking the piss out of me by referring to mounting crisp bags.

You have also offended my great aunt Fanny who comes from Monte Cristo by taking the piss out of the place she was born in. Please apologise to her and to all others who were born in this place.

Are you also aware that Monte Cristo is a brand of cigar. My dad coughs, spits and farts his way through his old age because he smoked these in his youth-it is not a laughing matter to include a reference to this in your user name, as it offends him.

So, your disgusting insensitive user name has offended all three of us.

As you say, you "may not mean to do it" but you have and as you say, you "cannot invalidate our feelings by saying 'if they thought.'

Again, as you say, " it implies (we) are in the wrong for misinterpreting your words and taking offence."

We are offended. Don't invalidate our feelings. Now you know you have offended us, please apologise. By your own lights, you are in the wrong.

We don't have to justify our feelings-all that matters is that you don't "invalidate " them.

BigHeadBertha · 02/05/2025 23:26

No, I wouldn't bring it up to the client. They've chosen to go over your head instead of discussing it with you and now it's over. I would not start it up again. I'd just move on.

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