Disgusted by school’s response to complaint about pervy teacher - Update

[SophEll]

I have debated whether to post this update but I promised I would in the previous thread (www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5325717-disgusted-by-schools-response-to-complaint-about-pervy-teacher) and I’m someone who keeps their word.

I have had an acknowledgment of my email to the Chair of Governors who assures me they will ensure my previous correspondence with the school will be personally overseen by the Headteacher as opposed to the senior member of staff who replied previously.

The Governor has understandably explained that the school cannot share the details of any internal disciplinary action, but has assured me the head teacher will provide me with a further response in due course, and asked me to provide my contact number. I’ve also confirmed that should it be required, my friend would be happy to provide her account of the evening’s events.

This proves that the school previously dismissing this without investigation was inappropriate, so I must say I’m feeling rather smug right now at this vindication. Given their prompt response, the Governor clearly recognises the reputational impact something like this could have on the school.

Thanks to all those who provided suggestions on how best to proceed (including those who said I should have laughed it off, been flattered etc) - I’ll endeavour to provide a further update once the headteacher concludes their investigation. An impressively prompt response by the Chair - the joys of retirement I guess!

This whole thing is a complete fabrication and you’ve all fallen for it for two whole threads.

Your post reads

’performing a sex act in school while child present” ie imagining the child watching whilst the sex act was being performed.

That isn’t what happened.

“The evening’s events”

What events? It was a non event. A drunk man tried it on. Yes it was sleazy. No it didn’t warrant reporting to his employer. You could have quite possibly ruined a man’s life over a throwaway comment. I can’t believe how self important you sound.

I’m beginning to wonder that myself.

For the sake of all teachers I hope it is because I feel sorry for them if parents these days think OPs actions are acceptable. I am thankful that few agree with her though

I haven't read all of your comments or the responses to your post, because quite frankly a lot of them are awful. Did you do the right thing reporting it to the school? Yes! Should he lose his job? I'd say not. Should he receive a stern word, and be advised never to behave like that again? Most certainly. I'm absolutely fed up with men speaking like this and others thinking it's fine. It's not.

But so many here were adamant that teachers’ behaviour outside the school matters not one bit. They were wrong.

So the headteacher is going to investigate,what a waste of their time.Because nothing whatsoever will happen!

You vindictive,spiteful,vile woman.Hope you are showing your husband these threads,poor man.Feel sorry for him,he must be a weak doormat of a man.

Chair of governors in my family. It’s a standard placating response to an escalation by the complainant. It is paying lip service. I doubt whether it will change anything in the long run. Just have them rolling their eyes more.

He never said he fantasied about that whilst in the classroom!

I. Didn’t. Defend. His. Behaviour.
He was a dick.
It’s still not a work matter.

His life won’t be ruined. Look at this thread. Teachers and governors have confirmed that schools do not care and will do nothing. So no need to worry about this poor man.

Presumably you had sex with a man in order to produce a child?

What was his pick-up line?

Teachers are allowed to go out on the piss and make sleazy/cheesy passes at people.

Teachers even have sex with people. Not always - but often - other teachers.

This level of vitriol is off the scale.

And really, really bizarre.

He was taking the piss, wasn't he? And that's what you're so cross about!

Don’t worry. I don’t have a partner any longer. Nobody meets my standards.

Except that last part didn't happen

Wow. You think that most men use pick up lines like this? And women fall for these overtures? What crude words did your partner use to woo you?!

Some women here have such low standards it’s shocking.

It can, and should. OP should go through the appropriate channels, beginning with a fornal complaint.

Where? I’ve seen no defence. Lots of us say the OP’s response is OTT. I haven’t seen (or made) any defence of the behaviour. Can you demonstrate some?

OP never saidnthat?

I am in a teaching profession and I dont agree with you, but you mostly talk to people in your echo chamber, so....
I think the problem is while the behaviour was shitty, I dont believe teachers should be held to higher standards than other professions. It's just a job. So if you wanna sack every banker, sales assistant, barman, etc, then sure, but your objection was based on his profession 100% and you would take it nowhere if he was not a teacher and this is where your hypocrisy lies.

No, that’s not what I said or meant. He was thinking about doing it to the mum while her DC was there, which is accurate

Section 2 of Teacher's Standards.

It was brought in in early 00s BECAUSE of the outrageous behaviour of predatory teachers. It then makes every teacher consider their behaviour inside AND outside school now, whatever it is. That comment to OP was out of line and sge has every right to pursue it.

Exactly. He isn't going to be sacked which is what she seemingly wants. She's made an allegation which can't be substantiated and she's had a response that seeks to placate her. Nothing else is likely to happen.

So teachers can't approach other adults out in public to chat them up?
FFS! The world has gone fucking mad! No wonder people are leaving the profession as quick as lemmings jump off a ledge with people like you complaining about what teachers do in their own time with other adults!

Lost their jobs for less than making a pervy comment and retracting it in an adult environment? Links?

Edit: I’ve worked in private schools too. They really don’t have higher standards for staff than state.

It’s funny how the majority of posters seem to be ignoring that legislation, isn’t it?

Selective reading at its finest!