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Disgusted by school’s response to complaint about pervy teacher - Update

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SophEll · 01/05/2025 12:30

I have debated whether to post this update but I promised I would in the previous thread (www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5325717-disgusted-by-schools-response-to-complaint-about-pervy-teacher) and I’m someone who keeps their word.

I have had an acknowledgment of my email to the Chair of Governors who assures me they will ensure my previous correspondence with the school will be personally overseen by the Headteacher as opposed to the senior member of staff who replied previously.

The Governor has understandably explained that the school cannot share the details of any internal disciplinary action, but has assured me the head teacher will provide me with a further response in due course, and asked me to provide my contact number. I’ve also confirmed that should it be required, my friend would be happy to provide her account of the evening’s events.

This proves that the school previously dismissing this without investigation was inappropriate, so I must say I’m feeling rather smug right now at this vindication. Given their prompt response, the Governor clearly recognises the reputational impact something like this could have on the school.

Thanks to all those who provided suggestions on how best to proceed (including those who said I should have laughed it off, been flattered etc) - I’ll endeavour to provide a further update once the headteacher concludes their investigation. An impressively prompt response by the Chair - the joys of retirement I guess!

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Endofyear · 01/05/2025 16:04

What was said to you was totally inappropriate - I don't think being drunk or outside of school makes a difference. I would hope that he would at the very least be given a warning not to repeat that behaviour again!

JasperTheDoll · 01/05/2025 16:04

Helloworlditsmeagain · 01/05/2025 16:01

It's 4pm now heard anything yet. I can envisage it now the headteacher rolling her eyes at your complaint. You're not that important.

No doubt they will have taken it very seriously and filed it in that special folder reserved for vexatious and malicious complaints.

FiveOClockSomewhere · 01/05/2025 16:05

Come round mind and help me with the chores. You’ve too much time on your hands.

NotFlown · 01/05/2025 16:05

Barrenfieldoffucks · 01/05/2025 12:47

I agree! I was totally surprised. I assumed it was because he was a teacher.

I find it so weird how teachers all defend each other. If this was an NHS colleague I would be first in the queue saying to report him. I don’t care how shortstaffed we are. No man in a profession like this should get away with being an utter creep.

SophEll · 01/05/2025 16:05

Helloworlditsmeagain · 01/05/2025 16:01

It's 4pm now heard anything yet. I can envisage it now the headteacher rolling her eyes at your complaint. You're not that important.

Not yet, but given they didn’t investigate previously and are going to this time, I’m in no rush. Better that this follows due process rather than we get a rushed outcome.

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WigglywagglyWanda · 01/05/2025 16:05

5128gap · 01/05/2025 16:02

Of course it isn't. Don't be silly. You might think the OP shouldn't have complained, but there's no need to try and belittle complaining about a man's behaviour as something weak and feeble. The OP isn't cowering in fear of him, she's made a complaint, and owned it.

She's owned nothing

If she'd owned it she'd have dealt with it herself. At the time.

Exasperated24 · 01/05/2025 16:06

Teanbiscuits33 · 01/05/2025 15:58

She said further up she’s retired. She clearly needs to find something to occupy her time.

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She didn’t - she implied the chair of governors was retired.

grapesandmelon · 01/05/2025 16:07

FuckityFux · 01/05/2025 15:49

Wow, I can’t believe in 2025 there are still so many women falling over themselves to make excuses for shitty men unless they’re all married to porn addicted males? 😳

It’s thoroughly depressing. 😩

Once again for those in the back...

NO ONE IS DEFENDING HIM OR HIS COMMENT!!!

But 90% agree that complaining to his workplace is an unreasonable follow up, and escalating to the governors is just batshit crazy!

The appropriate thing to do was handle it there and then.

wordler · 01/05/2025 16:07

SophEll · 01/05/2025 16:05

Not yet, but given they didn’t investigate previously and are going to this time, I’m in no rush. Better that this follows due process rather than we get a rushed outcome.

Now I think you are trolling us - 'due process', 'rushed outcome' because a man clumsily tried to hook up with you in a bar.

CellophaneFlower · 01/05/2025 16:07

DrPrunesqualer · 01/05/2025 15:33

Agree
90% on MNet didn’t agree with you on your last thread OP
Why do you think it will be any different.

I think you were out of order.

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She didn't start a new thread for validation - she started it to stick 2 fingers up at everybody that disagreed with her on the last one, as she thinks she's 'winning' 🙄

Helloworlditsmeagain · 01/05/2025 16:08

NotFlown · 01/05/2025 16:03

I could not believe the comments from women on the last thread. I couldn’t respond there because the thread was full.

You did absolutely the right thing. I am a hospital consultant and there are certain standards of behaviour expected. If one of my male consultant colleagues behaved like this in public, it should absolutely be fed back to the employer and his behaviour looked at, with the very least a serious discussion had.

This teacher’s behaviour was disgusting. I cannot believe some people brush this off as banter or normal. There are women on MN whose bar is so so very low.

People in careers where they’re dealing with vulnerable people need to have high standards of behaviour in public too.

You have time in the NHS to discuss an employees private life?

I can't even get a doctor's appointment or pick up a prescription without drama and yet you have time for foolishness. I doubt your employer would be so daft.

FairKoala · 01/05/2025 16:08

AmusedBalonz · 01/05/2025 15:09

I really don't care if there are fewer perverts in schools. No.

And of you really think men can't be trusted to behave outside of school when referring to their work place you have a very low opinion of men. Or maybe we just need fewer male teachers.

Most secondary schools expect exemplary behavior from students while off school grounds if they're wearing uniform. Because it's bringing the school into disrepute. But we're ok with everyone knowing that Mr Perv wants to bang your mum over the desk.

But this guy wasn’t in school, he is an adult so wasn’t wearing a school uniform
and are you saying any male teacher shouldn’t have a single fantasy about an adult female even if he once taught her now adult children and then drunkenly verbalised it in a club.

Maybe if someone is that offended at a comment in a club, maybe steer away from clubs.

This woman clearly has too much time on her hands

Teanbiscuits33 · 01/05/2025 16:09

Exasperated24 · 01/05/2025 16:06

She didn’t - she implied the chair of governors was retired.

Oh, so she did. My mistake!

HuffleMyPuffle · 01/05/2025 16:09

IWillAlwaysBeinaClubWithYouin1973 · 01/05/2025 14:49

I hope this thread is widely read, and the previous one of course, so that people can see the extent of hatred for anyone commenting on a teacher's dubious behaviour. I've posted many times about teachers not being able to do any wrong whatsoever on MN, and this is double whammy as it's a male teacher. Literally bullet proof.

It doesn't matter if the OP is having a parade and garden party to celebrate the latest development, the guy was a dick, he can be pulled up on it and he should be pulled up on it.

There was maybe 0.5% of posters saying it was fine

Most of us agreed the comment was sleazy and not okay but that OP's reaction was OTT

That's not giving teachers a free pass

CaptainMyCaptain · 01/05/2025 16:09

grapesandmelon · 01/05/2025 16:07

Once again for those in the back...

NO ONE IS DEFENDING HIM OR HIS COMMENT!!!

But 90% agree that complaining to his workplace is an unreasonable follow up, and escalating to the governors is just batshit crazy!

The appropriate thing to do was handle it there and then.

This.

SophEll · 01/05/2025 16:09

wordler · 01/05/2025 16:07

Now I think you are trolling us - 'due process', 'rushed outcome' because a man clumsily tried to hook up with you in a bar.

If a School is to conduct an investigation (or most workplaces for example), this usually involves interviewing the employee subject to that complaint. They can usually request union representation, and that can take some time to arrange. Likewise, if they decide to call on my friend for a witness statement, they also need to work around her availability.

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CellophaneFlower · 01/05/2025 16:09

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I'd save your sympathies... he sounds just as pathetic. I always love it when 2 people like this find each other... as they save others the misery.

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 01/05/2025 16:10

5128gap · 01/05/2025 15:51

I have, I can find no figures at all on the numbers of female teachers who've had sex with underage students. If you have I'd be interested to see them.

This report might interest you.

durham-repository.worktribe.com/OutputFile/1295996

cardibach · 01/05/2025 16:10

NotFlown · 01/05/2025 16:05

I find it so weird how teachers all defend each other. If this was an NHS colleague I would be first in the queue saying to report him. I don’t care how shortstaffed we are. No man in a profession like this should get away with being an utter creep.

He made a creepy remark while drunk. Grim. Needed telling.
It doesn’t make him an ‘utter creep’ (he may be, but we don’t know) and he didn’t do it at work or with anyone currently connected with work. Do you really think no NHS worker has used an off colour line while chatting someone up outside work? How would you know?

Phoebepeeby · 01/05/2025 16:10

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Themagicfarawaytreeismyfav · 01/05/2025 16:11

Op you come across as spiteful and vindictive! Lets hope neither you nor your husband says something stupid to someone like you after a few drinks in the future.

WigglywagglyWanda · 01/05/2025 16:11

grapesandmelon · 01/05/2025 16:07

Once again for those in the back...

NO ONE IS DEFENDING HIM OR HIS COMMENT!!!

But 90% agree that complaining to his workplace is an unreasonable follow up, and escalating to the governors is just batshit crazy!

The appropriate thing to do was handle it there and then.

Indeed

SophEll · 01/05/2025 16:11

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It’s not - even the School now see this after the intervention of the Chair of Governors. It’s a very serious matter.

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IdaGlossop · 01/05/2025 16:12

5128gap · 01/05/2025 15:03

Well I'm closer to your age than OPs and I agree with her. Probably because when I was a young woman I did 'deal with this male nonsense at the time', the smart put down, the walking away, the not making a fuss because I wouldn't want a man to get into trouble just because he was attracted to me and had lost the run of himself when drunk, or some other nonsense. And given here we are, 30 years on, and the 'male nonsense' is as bad as ever, it probably wasnt the most effective strategy. If its a generational thing, then good on young women. The more seriously its taken the greater the chance we won't be here in another 30 years discussing strategies to deal with male nonsense.

I'm not dismissing all out of order behaviour from men as nonsense, nor denying that there need to be institutional approaches to changing behaviour. It's profoundly depressing to me that my DD is entering a workplace in which she and her generation will have to fight battles we thought we had fought and won for them. Neither did we predict that toxic masculinityand trad wifery would be in the ascendent. Among all this, women do need to continue to speak out. My use of the word 'nonsense' is more an expression of being totally fed up that we still have to waste energy on this than a diminishing of the impact of poor behaviour by men.

HuffleMyPuffle · 01/05/2025 16:12

AmusedBalonz · 01/05/2025 15:06

"witch hunt"

Fucking hell would people really be ok with this guy teaching their daughters? He's a rapey misogynist who has spoken about his inappropriate fantasies at work. I hope he does get in trouble, though I doubt he will.

Not fucking rapey

Nor said he fantastic AT WORK

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