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To not be happy that my new work lanyard has “she/her” on it without me asking?

264 replies

TheNavyAnt · 29/04/2025 09:03

I’ve just started a new job and noticed that my staff lanyard/pass automatically has my name and “she/her” printed underneath it. Nobody asked if I wanted pronouns added - it was just assumed and put there by default.

I don’t have anything against people sharing pronouns if they want to, but personally, I wouldn’t have chosen to have it printed on my pass. It feels a bit forced, like I’m being made to take part in something I didn’t ask for and I’m not sure why it needs to be there at all unless I choose it.

AIBU to feel slightly uncomfortable about this? Or should I just let it go as one of those “modern workplace” things?

OP posts:
JoyousEagle · 29/04/2025 10:52

Surely not asking completely undermines the point of doing it? You could easily be someone who wanted to use they/them.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 29/04/2025 10:52

rosemarble · 29/04/2025 10:48

Here's an example:

email from author with a Chinese name that I am not familiar with. They have she/her in their signature.

I forward email to colleague saying e.g. "See email below, I'm not what she's asking".

I don't care what sex they are, it just makes the grammar easier.

In the event I don't have a pronoun, I might Google the name. Sometimes it's very clear, other times it's not. Sometimes Chinese authors use their last name when communicating in a professional setting so that can make things more difficult.

If I don't find out it doesn't matter, I would just say "See email below, I'm not sure what they're asking" or "I'm not sure what Xiaoming means".

This is NOT an argument for putting in pronouns in emails, absolutely not, I am just giving an example where it can be helpful.

Doesn't apply to work passes, though. If you can see the pass, you can see the person.

luckylavender · 29/04/2025 10:54

DiaAssolellat · 29/04/2025 09:04

Hell would freeze over before I wore this.

Then you probably wouldn't be able to get into your workplace

rosemarble · 29/04/2025 10:54

NoBinturongsHereMate · 29/04/2025 10:52

Doesn't apply to work passes, though. If you can see the pass, you can see the person.

Yes - I was answering "Why would you need pronouns on a work email?"

MakeYourOwnMusicStartYourOwnDance · 29/04/2025 10:55

MrsMappFlint · 29/04/2025 10:30

Tell them they have misgendered you. Your pronouns are He/His and they can look forward to being sued.

In the meantime, you will be going home immediately to recover and do not expect this recovery to take less than two weeks.

Just makes you look like an utter knob.
Hope anyone doing this from now on in calls you he and his, bet your hilarity would soon wear thin.

luckylavender · 29/04/2025 10:55

skippy67 · 29/04/2025 09:06

I'd Sharpie over it.

Depends on the company. The lanyard is not your property so defacing it could result in a disciplinary

TinyTear · 29/04/2025 10:58

redphonecase · 29/04/2025 09:03

Sharpie.

I was going to say tipex

JoyousEagle · 29/04/2025 10:58

This is so stupid. Not asking will mean that anyone who does use different pronouns to the ones someone might assume will be annoyed. And it reveals that the company is one that only wants to pretend to care about this (“look at us, we’re so inclusive we put pronouns on our badges”) while actually not caring enough to check whether those pronouns are correct. So who are they satisfying with this?

Whoistheeasterbunny · 29/04/2025 11:00

İf I ever end up in a similar situation, I'm going to request that they change it to Her Royal Highness and Her Majesty, and yes my ego is fluid....

Hwi · 29/04/2025 11:01

Madness encroaches bit by bit - you can make your own contribution to fighting madness by using a sharpie.

Bbq1 · 29/04/2025 11:01

It would insult me because I am clearly she/her and think that the whole of my workplace understands that. Obviously other posters are more annoyed that their preferred pronouns have been assumed but I'd I'd refuse to wear it on the basis they felt the need to print them on my lanyard.

Whoistheeasterbunny · 29/04/2025 11:01

MakeYourOwnMusicStartYourOwnDance · 29/04/2025 10:55

Just makes you look like an utter knob.
Hope anyone doing this from now on in calls you he and his, bet your hilarity would soon wear thin.

But they're making their own music and starting their own dance ?

Shadowsunray · 29/04/2025 11:05

It's an ideological statement that supports the destruction of women's rights, no chance in hell I would wear it.

Jadorelabrador · 29/04/2025 11:08

Xiaoxiong · 29/04/2025 09:05

If asked, you could say that it's against the Yogyakarta principles to force people to disclose their pronouns.

This and indeed I have and I’ve also linked to research like this https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/06/220610120216.htm
showing it can have the opposite effect of being more inclusive. If we point out an engineer is a she or lady engineer it makes it seem less ‘normal’.

I’m female my name is very female eg Emma and I clearly am a a woman - no one needs to point it out to me.

Words matter: How to reduce gender bias with word choice

In the workplace, even subtle differences in language choice can influence the perception of gender, for better or worse. These choices fall into two main categories: minimizing the role of gender by using gender-neutral terms or emphasizing an individ...

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/06/220610120216.htm

JamieCannister · 29/04/2025 11:10

MidnightPatrol · 29/04/2025 09:09

And - how did they know you are she/her if they haven’t asked you?

Are they making assumptions?

"I am upset that you have assumed my pronouns and do not wish to have she/her on my lanyard. Can I have a new lanyard please?"

"What are your pronouns then?"

"I do not feel comfortable sharing my pronouns"

PullTheBricksDown · 29/04/2025 11:12

Cycleaway · 29/04/2025 10:32

I wouldn’t be bothered about having my pronouns on my lanyard. I would be bothered that someone else assumed my pronouns to put them on my lanyard - it defeats the whole object of the exercise. For this reason I think you should feed back to hr

Yes this. Even if you're fine with it, it's totally contrary to the purpose of it to just assume them and put them on!

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 29/04/2025 11:13

I agree but you are in a new job and I’d just seethe inwardly and crack on. In two years time you might want to readdress it.

TallulahBetty · 29/04/2025 11:13

They've missed the WHOLE point of what they were trying to achieve, by assuming that yours are she/her. What a pantomime!

SerafinasGoose · 29/04/2025 11:14

MakeYourOwnMusicStartYourOwnDance · 29/04/2025 10:55

Just makes you look like an utter knob.
Hope anyone doing this from now on in calls you he and his, bet your hilarity would soon wear thin.

I wouldn't care in the slightest. My sex is pretty damned obvious to anyone glancing at me for a mere second. Calling me by some daft pronoun isn't going to change it, and will doubtless just make them look a buffoon.

The world isn't going to stop turning if someone calls me 'he'. I don't rely on others for affirmation.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 29/04/2025 11:14

JamieCannister · 29/04/2025 11:10

"I am upset that you have assumed my pronouns and do not wish to have she/her on my lanyard. Can I have a new lanyard please?"

"What are your pronouns then?"

"I do not feel comfortable sharing my pronouns"

Except that is implying the op has preferred pronouns.

I would go with something similar:

"I don't want to have she/her on my badge. Can I have a new one without pronouns please?"

If asked what you pronouns are: "I prefer not to have pronouns on my badge"

MrsMappFlint · 29/04/2025 11:15

MakeYourOwnMusicStartYourOwnDance · 29/04/2025 10:55

Just makes you look like an utter knob.
Hope anyone doing this from now on in calls you he and his, bet your hilarity would soon wear thin.

Maybe you could ask work for a couple of weeks off too!

Calm down, there's a good chap!

SerafinasGoose · 29/04/2025 11:17

Shadowsunray · 29/04/2025 11:05

It's an ideological statement that supports the destruction of women's rights, no chance in hell I would wear it.

I agree. I've been put on the spot more than once when asked for 'my' pronouns in a meeting situation.

On some occasions, maintaining a comfortable silence can work until they move on. On one, they actually asked on a second occasion. My response was 'that's not a practice I follow'.

LuckyOrMaybe · 29/04/2025 11:18

Whoistheeasterbunny · 29/04/2025 11:00

İf I ever end up in a similar situation, I'm going to request that they change it to Her Royal Highness and Her Majesty, and yes my ego is fluid....

That's a great one. If I ever have to write down pronouns I'll probably go with either Fee Fi Fo Fum or Hi Ho Hi Ho. (not likely though - I'm self-employed)

AnSolas · 29/04/2025 11:19

Thiscouldbefun · 29/04/2025 10:13

I think you should say nothing. You do not want to be that person HR are talking about in day 1.

I get the whole assumption / choice argument. I also get that probation periods, promotions and redundancies don’t happen by accident

True but...
Here is the fun part for "True Believer" companies :

@MissScarletInTheBallroom 👋 · Today 09:31
Go back to HR and ask if you can have a lanyard without pronouns on it because you don't feel comfortable displaying this information for personal reasons.

^ This puts the OP into the trans but not saying yet class and faith/belief so HR would be foolish to give the OP a reason to sue under the EA

LittleBitofBread · 29/04/2025 11:24

By the TRA movement's own lights, that's outrageous; they've made an assumption about your gender.
I'd say to HR you object to the presumption and you want a new lanyard.

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