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To wish people wouldn't judge/grill people who don't drive

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Ceriane · 25/04/2025 16:41

I don't drive. I avoid telling people unless I have to as I feel embarrassed and I have had people judge me, give me the wry smile "still not driving I see" and fire 20 questions at me about why, and I never know what to say to them as it takes too long to explain and I don't have a clear reason.

At 17 I couldn't wait to start driving and I had several lessons, but had to give up because of a family crisis, my dad was made redundant and I was only working part time as I was at college, so not earning much and the family needed my income, so I just couldn't afford it anymore. I moved away to go to University at 19 and again, it's expensive, it was a new area, and it was in a city, so people just got public transport everywhere. I always told myself that when I graduate and have a full time job, I will go back to driving again.

At 22/23 I was working full time and at 24 I finally got around to booking lessons again, and began driving, however I then had a debilitating physical illness that caused me a lot of problems that meant it really wasn't the right time to continue learning to drive, so I stopped for a few years while I dealt with health issues.

In my early 30's I went back to it and was doing really well, and thought, this is it I am finally going to be able to drive. My health could still be up and down, and then my instructor had to take a break from his job for a while, and I just never got around to picking the phone up and re-booking the lessons (when you leave it for a while, it just becomes something on the to do list that you don't get around to).

I then got a job in the city, and living and working in the city, people just get public transport so it seemed pointless to learn to drive. In my late thirties we went into lockdown, and after that I was hearing a lot about how they were trying to cut down the amount of cars on the roads, due to the environment etc, and at work, they seemed to be promoting this message really strongly so I didn't bother.

I turned 40 and I was dealing with debilitating anxiety and panic attacks so again, really not in the right head space to learn to drive.

At 41 I still have health issues that are complicated and difficult to explain to people, and I just think, why now? I've gone my whole life not driving? Every time I tell myself I should learn to drive I think health wise I never know how I'm going to feel from one day to the next and that would affect driving, and it feels wrong as it's just like a "why now?" kind of feeling. I work from home, I take public transport when needed, I never ask for lifts (there is maybe the odd occasion).

I have had a few comments as though people assume I'm lazy or must be thick or whatever and it really gets me down. One person used to ask me "well how do you get to work?" in a judge mental sounding way....I have always got to work using public transport, it's never been a problem, plus it's quicker to get the train than it is to sit in traffic (and I work from home now anyway). He made a comment that he assumed a family member must have to take me (how embarrassing) and then one job I had a few years ago, my sister did occasionally drop me off as my house was on the way and my job was right on the way to her job, if she hadn't have offered to do this (I don't expect it) I would have happily got the bus, and when he knew this he said "bloomin eck" as though he thought I couldn't get to work without having a lift, but that wasn't the case. He seems to think I must be having to have lifts all the while.

I do get embarrassed in recent years if I'm waiting for a bus, not the train so much, that seems more acceptable....I don't know. Should people be judged if they don't drive for whatever reason?

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plantsnpants · 25/04/2025 20:52

No judgement at all for ppl who don’t drive but a lot of judgement on people who don’t drive who expect everyone else to drive around and plans to be centred around them so they can get there

RampantIvy · 25/04/2025 20:53

I find that some people think buses and Uber don't exist.

Buses are hourly where I live, and none between 9 pm and 11pm.

Taxis aren't very reliable round here as there aren't enough of them.

cramptramp · 25/04/2025 21:01

I only judge them if they expect lifts from people who can drive.

LindorDoubleChoc · 25/04/2025 21:04

I don't judge people who don't drive but I live in London and so do all the non-drivers I know.

I do know that a female friend of mine finds it extremely tedious that all the family driving (holidays, days out, sports fixtures) always fell to her. But her DH is now 60 and unlikely to suddenly start lessons.

ohmyfootreallyhurts · 25/04/2025 21:08

This is totally irrational and unreasonable I know, but the phrase “I don’t drive” grates me more than “I can’t drive”.

Possibly because our local Facebook group is full of people expecting people to deliver thing, often very low value, for free because they “don’t drive”.

Yes, I know I’m unreasonable.

Thisistemporary · 25/04/2025 21:13

I’m in my early 40’s and just learning to drive now. I live in London so never really needed to and it just doesn’t come naturally to me. I’ve had about 50 hours of lessons and am not ready to sit my test yet. That’s in an automatic car so you can imagine how bad I would be in a manual!

I’m doing it now because I have a small child and my inability to drive now impacts her. Going out in the pouring rain and freezing cold to get to nursery when I could just put her in a warm car. So I am determined to
pass for her sake.

DejaMooo · 25/04/2025 21:14

Some people are definitely weird about it. I did learn and pass in my mid 20s but then didn’t drive for nearly 15 years. I got sooo many comments and people just seemed really baffled that I didn’t drive. It annoyed me that I had to constantly explain myself, like it’s anyone else’s business… and I also never expecting lifts, ever, I’ve always been happy on public transport or walking. Anyway, I felt under pressure and so did end up doing refresher lessons and got a car. I really dislike driving though and aside from going to work, if I can take public transport I will almost always choose that option.

Doingtheboxerbeat · 25/04/2025 21:17

ohmyfootreallyhurts · 25/04/2025 21:08

This is totally irrational and unreasonable I know, but the phrase “I don’t drive” grates me more than “I can’t drive”.

Possibly because our local Facebook group is full of people expecting people to deliver thing, often very low value, for free because they “don’t drive”.

Yes, I know I’m unreasonable.

No this is fair enough, but then I avoid items that are collection only because I'm not a CF - I'm genuinely surprised by how many CFs there are out there, because I won't even ask my brother or best friend to collect me after a hospital appointment/stay.

Allofthelightss · 25/04/2025 21:22

I didn’t pass my test until I was 39. Good public transport, driving never interested me.

4 months after passing my husband suffered a cardiac arrest at work. I was able to jump in the car & be there in ICU, he wasn’t expected to survive. The sheer panic I would have felt if I’d had to think about calling a taxi, or a bus, or running round the neighbours. I have no family nearby. I spent weeks at the hospital, all hours of the day & night, could not have done that without the car. Since then there have been times I’ve taken him to A&E (10 mins away) and my daughter is now under investigation for the same heart condition. I couldn’t sleep at night not knowing the car was there & I could get to her or my husband if they needed me. You don’t realise how isolated & vulnerable you are until something happens.

I appreciate everyone’s finances & circumstances are different but if you are able to, take the lessons & the test. Even if you don’t need or want a car straight away. Or take automatic only lessons as are much simpler. The option is then there if you want or need it. I’m saving for my daughters lessons already :)

EmeraldRoulette · 25/04/2025 21:50

RampantIvy · 25/04/2025 20:53

I find that some people think buses and Uber don't exist.

Buses are hourly where I live, and none between 9 pm and 11pm.

Taxis aren't very reliable round here as there aren't enough of them.

I mean where I live - so the horrified locals baffle me.

Amberlynnswashcloth · 25/04/2025 22:03

I think the "still not driving" crowd forget that there are additional challenges to getting a licence these days. The cost in prohibitive, there are lengthy waits for tests, practical tests are harder, roads are busier, cars are larger, satnav, cyclists, eco driving and so on. 25 years ago people could spend a few hours driving with parents and book a test two weeks later. Few could achieve that now.

HellDorado · 26/04/2025 00:50

Birch101 · 25/04/2025 18:05

So my default unless you live in a large city is that most people drive and have access to a car, I don't judge those who don't however I do get annoyed when they expect things to be arranged for them, e.g. booking medical appointments if you are unable to travel there by public transport you pay for a taxi not complain there is nothing on your doorstop and yes I have had clients like this. If you tell me you can't drive so can only use public transport I will find a suitable appointment however you will be waiting a longer time than if you could get to places easier

Also I know adults that don't drive due to epilepsy so honestly if people don't have the foresight to think of logical reasons I wouldn't waste my time worrying about them

Edited

Did you swap your punctuation for your driving licence?

Coastingtohell25 · 26/04/2025 00:58

GeorgianaM · 25/04/2025 16:47

Never too late to learn and is an important life skill.

By why ?
I have children am a fully grown adult well in to my life span and have never driven. Has never been an issue in my life what so ever

HellDorado · 26/04/2025 01:00

LoveTKO · 25/04/2025 18:41

I wouldn’t be in a relationship with someone who didn’t drive. I live in a village/town not a city. No way would I be the one responsible for all the running around/kids to school and activities/never being able to have a drink when out etc. If he’s got 2 arms and 2 legs I’d expect him to drive. Even people with missing limbs drive.

So you plan around the life you have rather than the life you might have?

The vast majority of people who don’t drive also don’t live in villages, for the very reasons you state.

Coastingtohell25 · 26/04/2025 01:00

Allofthelightss · 25/04/2025 21:22

I didn’t pass my test until I was 39. Good public transport, driving never interested me.

4 months after passing my husband suffered a cardiac arrest at work. I was able to jump in the car & be there in ICU, he wasn’t expected to survive. The sheer panic I would have felt if I’d had to think about calling a taxi, or a bus, or running round the neighbours. I have no family nearby. I spent weeks at the hospital, all hours of the day & night, could not have done that without the car. Since then there have been times I’ve taken him to A&E (10 mins away) and my daughter is now under investigation for the same heart condition. I couldn’t sleep at night not knowing the car was there & I could get to her or my husband if they needed me. You don’t realise how isolated & vulnerable you are until something happens.

I appreciate everyone’s finances & circumstances are different but if you are able to, take the lessons & the test. Even if you don’t need or want a car straight away. Or take automatic only lessons as are much simpler. The option is then there if you want or need it. I’m saving for my daughters lessons already :)

See this is dependant on where you live as well
ihahe a very complex medically sick child and never have I not been able to get her to a hospital when needed.

HellDorado · 26/04/2025 01:01

taxguru · 25/04/2025 18:57

Nail on the head.

It’s not a privilege - it’s a plan!

HellDorado · 26/04/2025 01:03

Greenfields20 · 25/04/2025 18:55

I think I'd worry more about services being cut, buses or trains running late or not turning up. Happens a lot where I live. A car is just right there at your door.

Yes, trains can run late or not turn up. But they’re not at the mercy of traffic jams either.

Coastingtohell25 · 26/04/2025 01:04

HellDorado · 26/04/2025 01:03

Yes, trains can run late or not turn up. But they’re not at the mercy of traffic jams either.

This especially dependent on where you live, and actually if travelling far train is often quicker than a car.
we travel all over the uk and never been an issue we find it much easier.

ANiceBigCupOfTea · 26/04/2025 01:06

I'm 33 and I don't drive.
I have Dyspraxia. I won't ever drive and I've accepted that. I live near a main public transport route and DH drives for when we need to get somewhere by car but driving isn't for me and never will be. I know I'd be terrible at it. Driving is something that to me is a privilege and not a right as you can end your own life or the life of someone else doing it.

CiscoTS · 26/04/2025 01:06

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 25/04/2025 17:09

I don’t drive.

My hands and feet don’t appear to operate at the same time. I can’t even walk and text.

I have tried, but the skill is not forthcoming.

Neither do mine, and nor can I can text and walk like you.

It’s why I learned to drive an automatic car.

HellDorado · 26/04/2025 01:13

RampantIvy · 25/04/2025 20:53

I find that some people think buses and Uber don't exist.

Buses are hourly where I live, and none between 9 pm and 11pm.

Taxis aren't very reliable round here as there aren't enough of them.

But presumably you’ve planned around that? Because it’s not really relevant to anyone else.

CarlyCoffee · 26/04/2025 01:19

My granny passed her driving test in her late 60s.

Just saying.

Dramatic · 26/04/2025 01:20

I drove for 18 years and then became partially sighted and I absolutely HATE not being able to drive. Public transport is practically non existent where I live and I can't move house. My life is very limited now because of it. I don't judge others for not driving but I would wonder why if there's no reason for it

IdaPolly · 26/04/2025 01:24

A close friend of mine doesn't drive. She once mentioned that she never learned and I didn't press her for further info. It's up to her and it's environmentally friendly of her. None of my business. Plus she's fit from walking such a lot. We live somewhere with lots of public transport. I'd never be condescending to her about it

HellDorado · 26/04/2025 01:26

CarlyCoffee · 26/04/2025 01:19

My granny passed her driving test in her late 60s.

Just saying.

Why?

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