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Friend asked dh for 2 year loan

631 replies

ParsnipPuree · 25/04/2025 12:19

Dh’s closest friend broke down to dh and told him he’s in trouble. Owes £25k to a friend who now needs it back. Dh offered to help on the basis it’s payed back in instalments every month for up to 2 years.

I am friends with his wife who is oblivious. Her dh won’t confide in her. She doesn’t know there’s a problem so will carry on as normal. I don’t think she’s a big spender but that’s not the point. They had a week away shortly before her dh and mine had this conversation.

Im angry because if there was a medical situation they couldn’t cover, that would be one thing but they’re obviously living beyond their means. Dh is taking the money out his company so it doesn’t affect me. If my friend knew she’d be mortified.

OP posts:
surreygirlzz · 25/04/2025 17:00

ParsnipPuree · 25/04/2025 13:07

He says he agreed with the previous friend to pay back in instalments which he was doing, but this friend needed the money back pronto.

rubbiush lol

proximalhumerous · 25/04/2025 17:01

Mrsttcno1 · 25/04/2025 12:21

I really wouldn’t do this, unless he can afford to permanently be down that £25k and will be okay if he never gets it back.

We had a friend like this and he was forever lending money from one friend to pay back another so there was always somebody who needed money from him, it’s one way to destroy a friendship.

But that's not the same as this friend is asking to borrow money, not lending it.

diddl · 25/04/2025 17:01

For me the top & bottom of it is-does he have 25k lying around that he can easily hand over, no trouble & wouldn't be missed?

I'm guessing that as for a lot of people the answer to that is no.

Therefore the answer to the request be be given loaned it is no.

RealEagle · 25/04/2025 17:02

Shelby2010 · 25/04/2025 16:56

Does the person who previously lent him the money have a wife in finance who recently had a big, posh 50th birthday party?

Just askin’

I was thinking the same😂

DoYouReally · 25/04/2025 17:02

There's no tax implications! 😂

You can't just take money out of a company with no tax implications!!! If you could no one would every pay salaries or dividends. They would "loan" everything instead .

I'm not n the UK do maybe there's one sort of tax utopia that I'm not aware of but I would be extremely shocked.

godmum56 · 25/04/2025 17:02

Puzzledandpissedoff · 25/04/2025 16:00

(DH) is used to making unilateral decisions at work and I’m trying to make him see that it’s not how it’s meant to be in marriages!

Sorry, OP, but if your DH can't see the importance of you working together on this then I'd say you've got more problems than just the friend expecting loans

this

Pedallleur · 25/04/2025 17:03

Ssshhh! It's all a secret. No one must know. It's a scam. We all know this. The person needs to confront his debts/debtors/addiction.

ParsnipPuree · 25/04/2025 17:03

There will be no interest on the loan.

OP posts:
ParsnipPuree · 25/04/2025 17:05

RealEagle · 25/04/2025 17:02

I was thinking the same😂

The wife doesn’t work so no!

OP posts:
DoYouReally · 25/04/2025 17:05

ParsnipPuree · 25/04/2025 17:03

There will be no interest on the loan.

There will be no capital paid either!

dddilemma · 25/04/2025 17:06

Surely the solution is his wife gets a job

ParsnipPuree · 25/04/2025 17:06

DoYouReally · 25/04/2025 17:02

There's no tax implications! 😂

You can't just take money out of a company with no tax implications!!! If you could no one would every pay salaries or dividends. They would "loan" everything instead .

I'm not n the UK do maybe there's one sort of tax utopia that I'm not aware of but I would be extremely shocked.

Edited

You’re mistaken then. This is a company with an excellent accountant and I’ve just heard him confirm this is the case. Maybe a loophole I’ve no idea but no tax implication.

OP posts:
CautiousLurker01 · 25/04/2025 17:07

DoYouReally · 25/04/2025 17:02

There's no tax implications! 😂

You can't just take money out of a company with no tax implications!!! If you could no one would every pay salaries or dividends. They would "loan" everything instead .

I'm not n the UK do maybe there's one sort of tax utopia that I'm not aware of but I would be extremely shocked.

Edited

Agree - if it is company money, there will absolutely be tax implications. At the very least, if it is regarded as drawings by OPs DH he has to pay PAYE on it. And frankly, that’s the best option because OP’s DH will have to repay it himself from personal funds if it is not repaid by the BF.

The attached describes a directors loan, which is what this is, I think? The director (OPs DH) is effectively taking a personal loan from the company and then using it to give to his friend.

https://www.1stformations.co.uk/blog/borrow-money-from-limited-company/

Can I borrow money from my limited company?

Everything you need to know about directors’ loans, including how to record money that you borrow from your company and the tax implications.

https://www.1stformationsblog.co.uk/borrow-money-from-limited-company/

Nina1013 · 25/04/2025 17:07

DoYouReally · 25/04/2025 17:02

There's no tax implications! 😂

You can't just take money out of a company with no tax implications!!! If you could no one would every pay salaries or dividends. They would "loan" everything instead .

I'm not n the UK do maybe there's one sort of tax utopia that I'm not aware of but I would be extremely shocked.

Edited

It’s not the director or shareholder taking the money out. It’s a genuine loan.

A director actually can take a loan out of the company at any point, but if it isn’t repaid at year end, interest must be added.

That is a simplistic version and there can be nuances but in a nutshell.

diddl · 25/04/2025 17:08

Friend has told dh he knows he has been living beyond his means and will rein it in.

So he needs to stop living beyond his means plus find 2k a month?

I wonder what his earnings & outgoings are?

Justchillinhere · 25/04/2025 17:09

Life would just be so simple and everything should carry on as normal if he just says NO! There probably isn’t even a friend waiting for the money. Op I hope there isn’t a similar thread in 3 months time saying “gave friend 25K, now we never see him, sorry but it’s all wrong

itsgettingweird · 25/04/2025 17:10

If he can’t afford to pay friend back how can he afford to pay DH back?

25k over 2 years is a grand a month. That’s a lot of cash to have spare and if he had that spare what he £25k in debt?

ParsnipPuree · 25/04/2025 17:11

dddilemma · 25/04/2025 17:06

Surely the solution is his wife gets a job

None of her friends work and sounds like he doesn’t want to burst her bubble. She’s def not my best friend but I’ve known her for years. Dh recently bought me a lovely car and she was so genuinely happy and excited (more than I was), she’s a nice girl.

i told dh again it’s so wrong he doesn’t confide in his wife. I’ll be reluctantly telling her if he fucks around with the repayment.

OP posts:
Idontknowhatnametochoose · 25/04/2025 17:12

Never lend money unless you're prepared not to get it back.

TropicofCapricorn · 25/04/2025 17:15

ParsnipPuree · 25/04/2025 17:11

None of her friends work and sounds like he doesn’t want to burst her bubble. She’s def not my best friend but I’ve known her for years. Dh recently bought me a lovely car and she was so genuinely happy and excited (more than I was), she’s a nice girl.

i told dh again it’s so wrong he doesn’t confide in his wife. I’ll be reluctantly telling her if he fucks around with the repayment.

Just tell her noooooww.

ParsnipPuree · 25/04/2025 17:16

TropicofCapricorn · 25/04/2025 17:15

Just tell her noooooww.

😂

OP posts:
TropicofCapricorn · 25/04/2025 17:17

ParsnipPuree · 25/04/2025 17:03

There will be no interest on the loan.

Jesus it gets worse, you're losing out on 2 years of interest on the money?

Are you sure you're happy for your husband to give away £25000?

Because that's how you need to frame it, you and your DH won't see this money again.

TropicofCapricorn · 25/04/2025 17:18

ParsnipPuree · 25/04/2025 17:16

😂

Honestly, why wait? Why are you happy to give away £25000?

Are you incredibly wealthy and won't miss it?

Ellie56 · 25/04/2025 17:19

So now it's a 12 month loan with repayments of £2000 a month?

Yeah right. This has disaster written all over it.

Quite frankly I would be going ape-shit. What if you need that money for something urgent yourselves? None of us know what's round the corner. As PP say you won't get that money back.

And if DH won't listen to you, his wife, and puts his so-called friend above you, I'd be telling him that you will be telling your friend as she has a right to know, and you are going to put her first just as he is putting his friend first.

TropicofCapricorn · 25/04/2025 17:19

ParsnipPuree · 25/04/2025 16:59

I’ve just spoken to dh. He’s having a proper loan agreement drawn up and there will be a monthly standing order. It is a 12 month loan. Friend has told dh he knows he has been living beyond his means and will rein it in.

I also told dh, on advice from here, that I’m not an idiot and there will be tax implications. He put his accountant on the phone and asked him the question, to which the answer was that there will be no tax implication to the company making a loan.

Oh so now it's a 1 year loan?

How is this man going to find £2000 a month if he's spending beyond his means and the wife not finding out.... ?

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