To think that Spanish is a ridiculous language?

[Ammadam]

Sorry to any spanish speakers. But I just wanted a mimor moan.

I've lived in France and Italy before. I thought the French and Italian languages were totally fine. They make sense. I became quite good at speaking Italian with the locals.

I'm in Spain on holiday. I've come to Spain many times on holiday, and so I'm always trying to learn Spanish a bit.

It's just such a crazy language.

Why is every word so long. Why are there so many changes for every word. Why does it sound like babble. Add to that, it's spoken extremely fast. Apparently it's the second fastest spoken language.

I was actually just talking about this to some Spanish people at a group here. They agreed that it's a very difficult language.

They said that everything is said in a much longer way than in English.

For example "Star wars" in Spanish, is "la guerra de galactica"

The Star Wars example is really bad. Most languages (including French) use phrases like that “the battle of the stars”. I am no linguist but I think English is very usual that nouns can be used to describe other nouns eg Star Wars. And it confuses the hell out of people learning English.

Also, just because you personally struggle with Spanish, do you have to be so bloody rude about it?

Sp far all the examples of difficult languages have been from Indo-European languages which are related. Jumping to another language family is even harder, particularly using different writing systems, lexical tone (Chinese) or agglutination (Turkish) or clicks/guttural sounds.

I agre the verb conjugation tajrs a bit of getting used to but as others have said it's less complicated than say German. Overall I would say Spanish a relatively easy by language to learn (and like others who have learned both I would definitely say it's easier than French.) I also don't think a native speaker is necessarily a good guide to how difficult it is for someone to learn their language as an adult because they've never done that.

Perhaps, although with the number of grammatical errors you see / hear from native English speakers I wouldn’t be completely sure about that.

I’m imagining a parallel thread on Spanish social media where someone’s insisting that “would of” is correct, as a native English speaker told them so.

I'm pointing out AGAIN that you're not disagreeing with me. I didn't say it! You're disagreeing with a Spanish speaker that said it.

@robinhood19 you have said this many times now.

It's all been said.

Can you let it go now please.

I think people are getting irate at you refusing to believe a correction, even when given evidence. Like insisting it's what it's said on Wikipedia, and then screen shoting a risky different website which isn't about the film title as evidence.

People keep saying it because you keep arguing. Just hold your hands up and say you're wrong!

Ridiculous Spanish speaking person here. In Spain, Star Wars is La guerra de las Galaxias. No idea in other Spanish speaking nations. Trust me.
French is a hell of a lot more difficult than Spanish, actually, it is the only romance language on level 2 of difficulty out of 4. The rest are on level 1, the easiest. No idea why you are finding it so difficult. I found German really difficult because of it´s structure, but I never called the language ridiculous. So good luck.

Basque certainly isnt a dialect of Spanish - however, whatever word they use in Spanish when talking about it that you are rendering as dialect, may have different shades of meaning from "dialect" in English. What word do they use?

Or that you haven't got your "ear in" yet. I learned standard castillian Spanish and lived on the north coast. No issues understanding people from roughly Madrid north, however fast they speak. Andalucian accents are harder, I worked with a woman from Granada and found her very hard to understand because of her difference in accent. It's like learning English thinking everyone speaks like the King or Helen Mirren, then listening to Billy Connolly or trying to follow Derry Girls.

I don’t think Spanish is that difficult, though I do find Spain Spanish much faster and harder to understand than South and Central American Spanish.

OP don't ever try and learn Gaeilge

Irish has quite a bit in common with Spanish. Some of the words are very similar along with sentence construction. I found Spanish to make a lot of sense after learning Irish.

The Spanish constitution and all official documents and laws define them as languages. They are languages.

Ignorant citizens / those who disagree they should be taught from birth to local speakers, will use “dialect” which shows a lack of respect for the history and culture tied to that respective language.

Valencian, Catalan and Balearic Catalan are dialects of each other. But Catalan is a language. You won’t hear a local Valencian speaker from a Valencian-speaking town refer to it as a dialect.

That erases both the history of the language and the memory of how Franco tried to eradicate them for decades while he was in power.

I agree that it's not easier, but the thing about grammatical errors is interesting. We're used to people with broken/different English, so are pretty good at ignoring errors to understand what people actually mean.

People in countries where there's hardly any speakers of the language who haven't been using it since birth can really struggle with this, as they're genuinely not used to processing the language with errors - eg in Iceland.

You’re being belligerent and annoying Op.

You won’t back down and say ok - maybe I’m wrong, you’re just getting bloody defensive and more defensive as your posts go on and more people are disagreeing with you.

You had my back up when you said Spanish was a ridiculous language. I think you’re rude to call another language ridiculous just because you can’t get on with it. Different is all it is and different is good.

So get a grip, calm down and maybe bugger off now to make yourself a nice cup of camomile tea. You need something

I was thinking about French numbers too, specifically 98 (four twenties, a ten and an eight) - I call that arithmetic!

Well, I can say either 'Star Wars' or 'The Galactic Wars' (not quite the same meanng) so English is pretty complex, too. Spanish is a romance language like French and Italian, and it also inflects the endings of words according to their grammatic use (as do French and Italian), genders nouns and has polite and informal forms, just like French, so I don't understand why you find it more complex - except that you do not know it so well?
Also, because words are long it gives more time to understand them. Many consider English to be a gabble, because we use a lot of short words.

I see your Spanish, and raise you Hungarian. It is a headfuck.

Jesus so deep about a movie title.

You'd swear I killed someone.

Where did I say I don't believe a correction. I didn't say that anywhere.

What I did say many many times, was "does it matter."?

Does it matter if my Spanish acquaintance called the movie by a slightly wrong name.

Does it matter? No it doesn't. Who cares.

If it's la guerra de las galaxias, it still illustrates the same point of what my spanish acquaintance was trying to say.

. That spanish is longer than english

I’m now going to call it ‘The Fight About the Universal’ forever. It sounds wonderfully Brechtian or something.😀

Good to know always wanted to learn Spanish so nice to think knowing Irish will help

Here in Chipping Norton us locals call Star Wars "Shiny Fighty", and it was marketed as such in our neighbourhood.

Interestingly, Star Wars is one of the few movies that was given a different name in every town in the world, with an individualized publicity campaign, different actors, and so on. For example, our version had Bobby Davro playing Luke Skywalker, while Julie Christie was Darth Vader.

(*Some of the above may be untrue.)

As a polyglot, Spanish is objectively easier than any of the languages you’ve mentioned OP. It is for a native English speaker one of the easiest in fact. What you are saying is an emotive response, not an objective one. If people are agreeing with you then that is also based possibly on bad language learning techniques or experience.
German words and sentences are significantly longer and the grammar more difficult. French grammar is more fixed and the sentences longer. Outside of 4/5 grammatical idiosyncrasies, Castilian Spanish is incredibly flexible and learnable. YABU and silly.

Fisticuffs in the Sky here up north.

Im not wrong as i didnt say it. I repeated what i was told.

I think its you who needs the camomile tea for your anger issues pet.

One thing I love about LatAm Spanish in particular are their bonkers movie titles - for example, Home Alone translates as “My Poor Little Angel” (Mi Pobre Angelita).