To think that Spanish is a ridiculous language?

[Ammadam]

Sorry to any spanish speakers. But I just wanted a mimor moan.

I've lived in France and Italy before. I thought the French and Italian languages were totally fine. They make sense. I became quite good at speaking Italian with the locals.

I'm in Spain on holiday. I've come to Spain many times on holiday, and so I'm always trying to learn Spanish a bit.

It's just such a crazy language.

Why is every word so long. Why are there so many changes for every word. Why does it sound like babble. Add to that, it's spoken extremely fast. Apparently it's the second fastest spoken language.

I was actually just talking about this to some Spanish people at a group here. They agreed that it's a very difficult language.

They said that everything is said in a much longer way than in English.

For example "Star wars" in Spanish, is "la guerra de galactica"

In Spain, the Spanish is very fast and it's also so different per region
Some Spanish people in malaga told me that they can't understand Spanish speakers in murcia,

But this is no different to English. Someone from SE England may well struggle with a full-blown Yorkshire accent and dialect, for instance (which I love, but does take some tuning into)

You didn't admit your big mistake I see.

Just admit it. You were totally wrong.

Yes

Tomorrow morning in Spanish is "mañana por la manana".

It's a strange one!

Right I'm definitely getting off this thread now to go and do something.

Take care all

God, I bet you're fun at parties.

OP - AIBU?
everyone - yes
OP - no I'm not!

I know this is not the point but you do have this wrong. That article you took a screenshot from talks about one event 'La Guerra Galactica' that happened within the Star Wars story line. The entire franchise, at least in my country (Spanish speaking ) was referred to "La Guerra de las Galaxias".

I mean...I feel like every language is ridiculous if you think about it. When you really think and chop it down. Same with all the sports. Totally ridiculous.

Waiting for OP to come back and tell you you are wrong - only 95% of people said yes to AIBU.

I thought Spanish and Italian were considered the easiest languages for native English speakers to learn in terms of pronunciation/grammar/number of cognate words, with French having harder pronunciation and German harder grammar. My DD has been doing Hindi on Duolingo as relaxation from GCSE revision 😼
Darth Vader is definitely mardy, me duck.

I rest my case

YABU.
The only thing you are not being unreasonable about is the fact that Spanish speakers tend to speak very fast and that makes it difficult to follow a conversation.
Spanish is not a ridiculous language and it isn't a difficult language to learn. Im amazed that you are finding it hard when you can already speak French and Italian. The verb endings are no more difficult than French or Italian.

I was actually just talking about this to some Spanish people at a group here. They agreed that it's a very difficult language
Most people say that to people trying to speak their language to make them feel better about it. They aren't going to turn round and say "Eh, what are you on about, it's piss easy to learn". They are trying to be nice and encourage you. It doesn't mean it's true.

I wonder what level of fluency you achieved in French and Italian you achieved if you are struggling with Spanish.

At school the top set in French did GCSE a year early. Everyone got an A. We then had to do a year of Spanish and sit the GCSE with the rest of our GCSEs. Every single person got an A in Spanish after just one year of lessons.

It's well-known that Spanish is one of the easiest languages to learn.
Try German next and let us know how you get on with that. The Star Wars issue will be easier though beacuse even though it started off being called "Krieg der Sterne" everybody just calls it Star Wars now.

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Damn; too late to edit my post:
With 274 votes so far:

OP: AIBU?
95% of posters: yes you are (260.3 posters)
OP: No I'm not!!

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The words are no longer or more difficult than Italian, which you apparently thought was fine.

I found French, Italian and Spanish all fairly straightforward. I found German really, really hard. I wouldn't say any language was 'ridiculous' though.

@Ammadam

"Some Spanish people in malaga told me that they can't understand Spanish speakers in murcia, as murcians chop the words into different words altogether."

It's the same in Italy though OP. For example, someone from Tuscany would find someone from Naples or Sicily completely incomprehensible. Likewise in France a Parisian would struggle like hell with the Marseilles dialect. You are rather talking as though regional dialects/words were unique to Spain!

Could it be a dialect of Andorra?

A quick Google tells me the people of Andorran speak Catalan, but perhaps there's another dialect there?

I think gresmvh iseasier too but I did a big of that in schoo. I liv in Spain and the .ore you know the more ypu realise I will never be native level. It's so complimented. But we try

@Oftenaddled
They are a real thing. They are levels devised by the Foreign Service Institute to categorize how long it takes an English speaker to learn and were based on training diplomats for work abroad.
This page explains it https://www.thelanguageformula.com/articles/how-many-hours-language-language

I love how German has some very long words because they tend to run together words we would keep separate, eg Schwarzwalder for Black Forest.
Personally I feel that as an English speaker German is an easier language to speak that Spanish, Italian etc., we once had German guests and there was a news item from the North East on TV with a very local accent that we, in Yorkshire, could hardly understand but the German guests could.

Italian and Spanish is similar enough that Italians can follow what Spaniards are saying. Apparently, and this is according to Italian relatives, they sound stupid 😬

It leads to a lot of 'Spanish are dumb' type jokes, a bit like we used to do with the Irish. Fair warning; I'd just be careful who you express that opinion to, as may offend some people.

I'm not having a go at you OP, I'm just pointing out that this thing that is new to you, for other people has been done to death and may just piss them off.

Yes, totally. I'm not sure what OP is getting at. I struggle with some Scottish accents ('some' because there are a variety of Scottish accents and dialects too). I also struggle with accents from the north east.

My Grandad could speak in cockney rhyming slang, my Welsh raised children wouldn't understand a word.

And like you point out, my other Grandad learned Italian in Sicily and around Naples during the war, When he got up to northern Italy and proudly spoke 'Italian' they couldn't understand a word he said, they told him he was speaking southern Italian!

My husband speaks Welsh from south west wales, in north Wales they have many different words for things and my husband can barely understand them. People from Cardiff have a different accent and phrases to people from Llanelli etc etc etc.

The OP just struggles with Spanish, it's not the fault of the Spanish language, Spanish isn't ridiculous. It's just one she can't get the hang of, which is reasonable, her response to her struggles and her description of calling Spanish ridiculous and her arguments are unreasonable.

If you think Spanish is ridiculous and hard, try Dutch. (I am Dutch, btw). Dutch really is a hot mess of rules that don't work, long words that don't make sense and spelling that is completely unreasonable.

I much prefer German, it's orderly and if you follow the rules, it works. (I speak fluent German, French and English).

The reason people in other European countries say they find English easy is that they are often immersed in it, and that language teaching in those countries is far superior to what is provided here.

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Actually I think the Star Wars Paradox as it shall henceforth be known raises an important point
Its the difference between actually speaking/understanding a language and translating it in your head. Star Wars was made in (American) English so there was no real Spanish equivalent so while it may have been advertised as something it is kind of open to interpretation as bit.
There are concepts and words that don't translate easily from one laguage to another and its why my 1st Spanish Teacher (who was French) often used French words to explain some Spanish words and ideas.
You find it in many languages where the English word is used and there is no translation or not a commonly used one.
DH spoke only German until he was around 10 and there are still now words he only knows in German because he has not come across the thing as an adult. Conversely as a young man he went back to Germany and worked as a Plumbers Mate and they had no idea he was "English" until he asked (in German) what a screwdriver was when asked to pass one. DH had never used that word as a child so had no idea what the German word meant.

I agree. English teaching starts young in other countries so children have the basics before they even start secondary school and then it moves fast. They do find the tenses difficult such as simple and continuous tenses, present perfect etc. but a high level is expected and this means that by the time they leave school they have a very good level.

It's easy to access a lot of TV shows in English, pop music in English, online gaming, all in English. They are surrounded by English from an early age and that's why they find it easy.

I was recently in Norway and wanted to watch some TV in Norwegian as I'm learning the language. Most evenings there were only one or two programmes actually in Norwegian, most of them were in English with Norwegian subtitles.

No, no, let me help you, it's no trouble.

You see, your opening post contains the following:

"For example "Star wars" in Spanish, is "la guerra de galactica""

You see, that's you saying it. Now, you later claimed a Spanish person told you, but, you see, most people are wrong about something because they got that wrong information from somewhere. Getting wrong information from a source and repeating it doesn't make you any less wrong.

Hope you have it straight now.