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He no longer wants kids

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Lizzielost · 23/04/2025 08:19

I’m a bit lost here so was hoping for some opinions on my current position please.

I’m 41 and have been with my partner, 39, for 8 years (1 engaged). We are currently renovating our first home together and I love him to bits. He is the only person who has ever completely understood me and he has helped me to grow so much while we’ve been together. I’ve also supported him and helped him to grow into someone who is more secure and aware of his own value. He is a kind person and thinks of me a lot.

From the very start, we both wanted children. We’ve had so many conversations about it that it was never really considered to be an issue, until last year. My partner has been through some difficult times over the last 2-3 years (including the loss of a parent and an increase in narcissistic behaviour from the remaining parent as well as significant work stress) and he has been in a very dark place at times. Now that we are finally in a position where we have some security to try for a child (as my age is already against me somewhat) he has decided that he no longer wants a child.

He didn’t tell me outright for some time. It’s been a topic of conversation for 16 months and he only admitted it at the end of last year. His response has always been either just a quiet grunt, ‘ok’ or no response at all with a look akin to a deer caught in the headlights. In the meantime I have to mix with his friends and all of their children and he doesn’t seem to see how difficult that is for me.

I had a coil which I was struggling with (pain, heavy periods etc) and he suggested getting it removed about 2.5 years ago and trying for a baby then. By the time I’d managed to have it removed 4 months later though, he’d changed his mind and I went on the pill. It doesn’t agree with me (moods, loss of desire etc) and this also seems to have caused some issues between us, even though there is little I can do to change that without coming off the pill.

We talk about it but I usually end up upset and, to try to pacify me, he says that we can try. I know he is only saying that and doesn’t mean it though so I ask him to speak about it the following day, when things have calmed, and he doesn’t. This has happened at least 10 times now and it is hurting.

If he had told me properly about his change of heart then I would not have bought the house with him. Really, I had little idea of how things had changed with him.

Over the last few days things seem to have come to a head. I just can’t cope with him almost playing games now and, after being upset a couple of nights ago and sleeping on the couch, I’ve told him that we can’t continue and that we need to split before I hate him for this. The situation is difficult, with the house renovation, and we’ll probably end up having to keep going with this for a bit until we can sell it and move on.

My head is telling me I’m overreacting and that I can’t leave him as he is everything to me. I just can’t keep being dragged down by this baby thing as it is taking over my
life and I’m beginning to hate him for it. It is, to me, a point of fundamental incompatibility and I feel betrayed. My mind is reeling - do we go for counselling to see if we can deal with this? Is it dead in the water now, even with the love on both sides? I can’t see up for down at the minute and I don’t know whether I’m talking myself round, only to be stuck again. I probably won’t go on to have children anyway if we split. I’m quite shy and finding someone new to trust in that way probably won’t be doable in time for me to try for a child. I just don’t know what to do at the moment. Has anyone got any thoughts on this please?

OP posts:
UndermyShoeJoe · 23/04/2025 15:00

anterenea · 23/04/2025 14:58

What bullshit is this? In that scenario she can absolutely do as she pleases, enough of pseudo negotiating with these infant men. Life is short, even more so fertile life for a woman.

Because it’s fine to come off contraception and make him aware not cool to do it then have sex with someone who thinks it’s protected when it’s not, then months later announce it.

redphonecase · 23/04/2025 15:03

You're 41!

You've largely missed the boat for a good chance of having kids, what have you been doing for the last 8 years? It doesn't sound as if you really want them or you'd have pushed the idea sooner......

DGPP · 23/04/2025 15:07

Surely when you got to 34 you said it’s now or never? You’ve left is so late and you have to take responsibility for that

GonzoParker · 23/04/2025 15:10

He's robbed you of your fertile years with lies
Unforgivable

Inyournewdress · 23/04/2025 15:12

I wish people would stop hassling the OP about why she didn’t try sooner, she has already given some indications and has said that she is neurodiverse. It can be hard to understand the complexities of someone’s life, and a link between wanting something and feeling able to make it happen can be particularly hard with autism or adhd.

OP has said she takes responsibility for the situation and just doesn’t want to be actively preventing pregnancy any more. So I think it would be more helpful to just accept that OP is where she is without second guessing or doubting her.

StopStartStop · 23/04/2025 15:15

If he had told me properly about his change of heart then I would not have bought the house with him.
Which is why he didn't tell you. He's strung you along for years.
Get out of this relationship. No good can come of it.

Praying4Peace · 23/04/2025 15:16

LadyTwattington · 23/04/2025 08:25

I am sorry to read this. He has the luxury of being able to change his mind again in 5 or 10 years; you don't. If having children is a deal-breaker, then the deal is broken.

In your situation, at your age, I would split and go for single parenthood via donor sperm - but then I always knew very firmly that I definitely wanted children, and time is not on your side.

Single parenthood by sperm donor?????????
PLEASE NO

cordeliavorkosigan · 23/04/2025 15:17

Definitely stop taking the pill. You can do that today.
He has betrayed you with this.
I don't know that I could do it but if, in your circumstances, someone didn't take the pill and was not up front about it and got pregnant I'd empathize.
Especially if she had said she might stop taking it. Trying to think why I feel that way, and I guess it's about anger at the manipulation and deception from his side, and about the control, so much that you may lose the chance have a child ( and were not treated with honesty and respect.)

Ryanstartedthefire22 · 23/04/2025 15:18

He can't do that to you. You have already waited most of your fertile years. It's now or never so make it now

cordeliavorkosigan · 23/04/2025 15:19

And also because that was always the plan. So he should be aware. You want kids. Long agreed.

TallulahBetty · 23/04/2025 15:22

anterenea · 23/04/2025 14:51

Tell him you've gone off contraception a month or two after you've done so and having done the deed a few times already

What is the MATTER with people on this thread?

Whaleandsnail6 · 23/04/2025 15:32

anterenea · 23/04/2025 14:58

What bullshit is this? In that scenario she can absolutely do as she pleases, enough of pseudo negotiating with these infant men. Life is short, even more so fertile life for a woman.

Noone should ever be tricked into having a baby.

Coming off contraception? Fine but you should be 100 % honest with the person you are about to have sex with so that they can prevent pregnancy if they wish to do so

The op's boyfriend has behaved poorly but that does not excuse lying about contraception. Op could have taken more responsibility for her potential parenthood years earlier by ending the relationship due to his mind changing and feet draging.

These threads are always the same with people suggesting tricking men into creating children, or suggesting one night stands/flings and not even informing a man that he even has a child...awful, disgusting behaviour and not fair on the potential baby either

RancidRuby · 23/04/2025 15:33

• I wasn’t told he didn’t want children 2.5 years ago (although my original post was unclear). I was told that he actually did but that this was wrong and that was wrong at that particular time.

But 2.5 years ago you were 38/39, if he really wanted kids he wouldn't have put it off. My husband is 5 years younger than me and we started TTC at ages 29 and 34, in an ideal world he would have preferred to have waited until he was older but because he wanted kids and wanted them specifically with me we went ahead sooner because of my age.

Anotherparkingthread · 23/04/2025 15:35

Fuck me. The women on this thread are giving us all a bad name, and then think it's sexist when men treat women with suspicion around baby trapping, contraception.

Frankly I think everybody suggesting anything even close to that is fucking mental. I certainly wouldn't want you as a mother, no kid deserves that. The deceitfulness is revolting and a man who lied about contraception (eg removing the condom) would rightfully be told he's a rapist. Forcing a man to have a child you know he didn't concent to is exactly the same.

Bringing another person into this eg a child that is unwanted by at least half the involved party is an utterly selfish and pathetic action.

Mrsttcno1 · 23/04/2025 15:37

Anotherparkingthread · 23/04/2025 15:35

Fuck me. The women on this thread are giving us all a bad name, and then think it's sexist when men treat women with suspicion around baby trapping, contraception.

Frankly I think everybody suggesting anything even close to that is fucking mental. I certainly wouldn't want you as a mother, no kid deserves that. The deceitfulness is revolting and a man who lied about contraception (eg removing the condom) would rightfully be told he's a rapist. Forcing a man to have a child you know he didn't concent to is exactly the same.

Bringing another person into this eg a child that is unwanted by at least half the involved party is an utterly selfish and pathetic action.

10000% this. It always amazes me that so many vile women expose themselves so confidently with comments like that. Yet a man posting about slipping off the condom would- rightfully so- be torn apart.

I can only hope these disgusting people aren’t actually parents themselves, I wouldn’t want anybody capable of believing that raising any of the little humans my children are going to grow up around.

BlondeMummyto1 · 23/04/2025 15:39

Have a final conversation about it. You are already prepared to walk away so lay all your cards out.

I can understand that dealing with losing a parent and having another who is a narcissist can’t be easy. Neither can the work stress or buying and renovating a house.. The most stressful thing you can do in life! I think a lot of people wouldn’t want to add a baby into the mix. Throw in the time pressure of your age and the weight on your shoulders becomes too much so he’s like hell no!!

Is he thinking of the bigger picture of when the dust settles and there’s no more renovation or work stress? Does he understand your fertility is up against the clock? Does he care how important this is to you?

WithoutACherryOnTheTop · 23/04/2025 15:39

I am so sorry to say this and do not want to heap coals upon your already sizzling head but my money is on him deciding in X number of years that he does want children after all and, as by then your ovaries would probably have shrivelled into tiny raisins, he leaves to have them with someone younger. If he wanted to marry you, he'd have married you (unless you are both particularly adverse to marriage though as he has 'mentioned' it I am thinking that's not the case?) and if he'd wanted children then he'd have got busy with it as he can't be entirely unaware of female fertility timespans. If he has done neither then I fear he thinks he can upgrade. Every male friend I know who has done this has, with utmost cynical selfishness, done this in the spirit of placemarking/making do until the upgraded version comes along. Sometimes this has never happened and they have stayed with the original version but without children or marriage as they were still (despite being far from delectable specimens of manhood themselves) waiting for this younger, fertile upgrade to materialise and run off into the sunset with them.

Milosc · 23/04/2025 16:01

After the death of a parent and dealing with a narcissistic one, he may be afraid now that he will be a terrible parent. If that is the case counseling may help. However, it is very unkind for him not to be honest from the get go. If you want children and choose to stay with him and don't have them you will likely resent him for the rest of your life. That isn't healthy. If you force him to have children or lose you then he will resent you. Either situation is grim. If the relationship is worth it then try to get to the reason he has changed his mind. If you can't find common ground then know you can be a great single parent all on your own.

redphonecase · 23/04/2025 16:05

GonzoParker · 23/04/2025 15:10

He's robbed you of your fertile years with lies
Unforgivable

well to be fair, she has chosen not to TTC in her fertile years

TrainGame · 23/04/2025 16:10

Dump him but honestly have to question yourself if you really ever wanted children. To reach 39 and now be asking these questions is in my view a subconscious self sabotage of some kind.

I was aware the clock was ticking aged 27 and I got my ducks in order and any man that behaved like a dick was kicked out and I moved onto the next one again and again until I met DH who was ready to commit and wanted the same things.

You have to be ruthless or at least pragmatic with your heart, if you want a decent DH AND children. So it makes me wonder, as you sure you really wanted kids? Why have you waited so very very long? Your best fertile years are behind you. Just seems odd to have buried head in sand for so long.

coxesorangepippin · 23/04/2025 16:10

We've seen this chapter and verse on here before

Men taking advantage of women, who then reach the final stretch of fertility and then they say, oh actually babe, I don't want kids.

If you split, he'll get with another younger woman and within a year she'll be preggo.

He's fucked you around here op - maybe marriage, maybe kids - but nothing delivered.

Solocatmum · 23/04/2025 16:15

cordeliavorkosigan · 23/04/2025 15:17

Definitely stop taking the pill. You can do that today.
He has betrayed you with this.
I don't know that I could do it but if, in your circumstances, someone didn't take the pill and was not up front about it and got pregnant I'd empathize.
Especially if she had said she might stop taking it. Trying to think why I feel that way, and I guess it's about anger at the manipulation and deception from his side, and about the control, so much that you may lose the chance have a child ( and were not treated with honesty and respect.)

I get it - but it’s very likely to end in single parenthood not by choice, and a child who knows its father didn’t want it.

momtoboys · 23/04/2025 16:18

If things are good between you otherwise, and you are committed financially with the house, I would stay. You can hate him for not wanting to have a child but unless you have plans to get pregnant using artificial means that you haven't mentioned, the chances of you getting pregnant are low and getting lower by the day. Why blow up your life for something that may not happen anyway? I don't understand why you waited so long considering your age. I'm sorry he disappointed you.

Beaniebeemer · 23/04/2025 16:20

I’m going to be a bit blunt here. Sorry.

I am the same age as you. Do not have kids with this man.

I do have kids (13&11). I’ve been officially on my own with them for 4 years but really I’ve raised them on my own. I’m absolutely knackered and chronically ill now. Teens aren’t for the faint hearted and the world is fucked. No chance would I do this again if I truly understood the path ahead of me.

scotstars · 23/04/2025 16:27

I feel for you op I've been there staying in a good relationship too long in the hope the other person changes their mind. He doesn't want to be a dad and if he goes along with you it will be thrown back at you constantly you wanted the baby. Or if you stay with him child free you will grow to resent him.

Honestly op if you want to be a mum there are other ways please don't waste more time you have had the conversation 10 times, discussed splitting if he wanted kids this would be enough you are just torturing yourself repeating the convo hoping he changes his answer

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