Labour say transwomen should use the men’s toilet

[Kindersurprising]

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/trans-women-men-toilets-b8gt6l22c?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0BMQABHlJe7BiT-kgvjfusJpz2eq_AUSGDRI9eAMe5VNA0iX6U2qOUk-U0wPhPI98-_aem_Vfuvll1ZYKrZUa-vjh4QSA#Echobox=1745317525

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Wrong. And this is precisely the issue here. That the left have deemed this a left or right issue and that only women on the far right take exception to adult men sharing changing spaces with their daughters. That error has cost them dearly.
I, and almost every other woman I know who feels strongly about this have been left or left leaning our whole lives. We have watched the very politicians we voted for, abandon our interests in pursuit of appeasing men in dresses.
You're mistaken if you think those of us who oppose this gender ideology crap only do so because of Farage or the Daily Fail.

So you'd be happy with a man seeing another woman miscarry in this toilets? As has happened to women on occasion. Wash/dry out blood-stained underwear? Rinse a mooncup? Adjust our bras and clothes at the sink? Really? Females also flee to the womens to escape men. As a rape survivor, I am not happy with a male seeing ANY part of the bodily and sometimes traumatic bodily functions females go through in that female only space and thank goodness 'I'm right Jack, stuff you' women like you don't have the right to give my consent away.

Sadly you won’t find many people on mumsnet who care at all for the safety of trans people despite ons figures showing trans people are twice as likely to be assaulted as cis people. Or despite the fact that women are actually assaulted by men not transgender women. And now men can walk into women’s toilets and if challenged can claim they are trans. No one is safer now but that will never be accepted by mumsnet

Hospitalised???? Don’t be so ridiculous. He has never thought as himself as a female even from a very young age. He’s a very balanced individual. Part of the process for transition is with a psychologist but to work it through,, ensure he is happy is what he is choosing/needing to do. Not to be told, go away you silly girl, you are just wrong.

Where are these figures?

Who is doing the assaulting and where?

Transwomen ARE men.

Not everyone has to agree.
It’s perfectly clear and unequivocal and we shouldn’t be further dumbing down language to pander to numbskulls who pretend that they still don’t understand.

And everyone stood and applauded and cheered and said, ‘you’re so stunning and brave hun, you do womaning better than ANY actual woman’ and he tilted his head, flipped his hair and strode off back to fantasy land, THE END.

None of this is true, please stop lying.

Can you show us the figures, please?

Also, it's not just MN, as evinced by the SC decision and numerous polls showing the British public really do not want men in women's spaces. The tide has turned.

Very happy with boundaries, thanks. He and also don’t have a sense of entitlement any more than the rest of you. In my first post, I said that everyone has the right to feel safe etc. everyone should be equal. What’s entitled about that?

She is a biological female, not wanting this to be the case is utterly irrelevant.

There’s no confusion. Just people refusing to accept the perfectly clear judgement.

I have several fully fledged vagina and uterus having female friends who are 6 feet plus and they have all experienced hatred and unwanted questioning based on apparent “large hands” or some other apparent indication they must actually be trans women.

How bizarre. I have two sisters who are around 6 foot and neither has ever been questioned in the ladies toilets. (I'm a lot shorter so never get asked either.)

You're going to lose your mind when you hear what the Communist Party did...

As males, transwomen make up 50% of the population.

I get what you’re saying but the vast majority of the population absolutely know what the definition of biological sex is.

I agree some people will see it as ‘subjective’ but they are a tiny minority, in the same way a tiny minority believe the earth is flat. They have their beliefs, regardless of the facts, but they’ll still argue their point. It’s the same situation here, the vast majority of people know you can’t change sex.

You forgot the part where they all had a cry, followed by a pillow fight and then marvelled at his girl dick....

Where are these assaults happening? Just randomly on the street? In the workplace? In the women’s loos? Have they been violently assaulted by those angry 5ft 7 stone TERFs? I am genuinely interested .

Plenty of women have been assaulted by trans women or men who go on to say they are trans women and get treated as such by the judiciary. We then get but but but they aren’t REAL trans women as if there is something objective that can differentiate between a man in a dress and a trans woman

How often do you take your birth certificate with you when you use a toilet?

Everyone is not equal!!
There are men, and there are women. Neither is better, but they are certainly not interchangeable.

And what does your daughter think “being male” actually is? What’s her frame of reference for how a male thinks or feels, outside of stereotypes, how has she become so certain that the thoughts and feelings she has are those of a male?
She can’t, because she has no way to quantify any of that.
This is a common experience among young girls/women who are autistic and/or have experienced sexual abuse in their life. I’d be very surprised if your daughter wasn’t ND.

I would challenge them !

Women need to stand together.
Call the police or security.
Video them breaking the law.

Scream together and we will be heard and people will come running.

Its. Not. All. About. Toilets.
Prisons. Refuges. Hospital wards. Sports.

I presume this means that trans men should now use the womens toilets.

How will you tell whether someone is a 'biological' man, or a transman?

Honestly, all this obfuscation. Across the world, the majority of people know what biological sex is. A tiny minority remain confused.

We can't throw the rights of 50% of the population under the bus to help these people. They will have to find their own spaces and deal with male violence- if any-on their own.