Why were trans threads hidden?

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Since the ruling that biological sex matters I've been reading more and more. Every day.

To my shame, I didn't really follow the issue or consider it before. The more I read, the more horrified I am at how women who've been campaigning have been treated by society, by TRA activists, by other women and even on mumsnet hidden in a corner in sex and feminism.

JK Rowling having rape and death threats for sharing her concerns. Women being cancelled. This is an every women and every girl issue.

With the rise in toxic masculinity and misogyny in schools and society we all need to talk about this more.

Well done to those that did the talking and campaigning for the safety of all women.

Why can’t we agree to have discussions in a a civil fashion, between women (and yes, I’m aware there are a few men on FWR)? What do men or trans women even have to do with how we discuss things on FWR?

Considering you have been trying to tell women what to actually think and feel on this thread, it's a bit much that you're also trying to tell us what tone we may or may not take.

Your opinion carries no more or less weight on this thread than anyone else's. Stop trying to bully people into expressing themselves in a way you personally approve of. None of us are under any obligation to do that.

By hectoring, I mean many posters peppering a single poster with hostile questions at once, with the intent of scaring them off the thread

nope nope nope

people are entitled to respond to a post within the guidelines without it being ether an act of aggression or seen as such

if MNHQ want to bring a maximum post ‘reply’ limit then I would be more than happy to abide by that

It would be nice if you didn't outright blatant lie about me. I have never once on this thread, nor anywhere on this site, told women how to think and feel or tone-policed.

So the problem now is 'well, too many of you reply and participate on the thread'.

You really believe that? Uh, OK then, you do you.

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This is a great article that was posted on a different thread. Worth posting here too I think
https://thecritic.co.uk/gender-critical-women-do-not-lack-empathy/

Had a quick read - seems fairly biased.

It seems measured, accurate and well-written to me.

Me too, I thought it was very insightful and extremely well-written.

Maybe it was the fact that a woman called Jordan Gray 'he'. I mean any person who took such great delight in playing the piano with their penis on national television should be centred and be called 'she' surely?

It is well written - but it’s not balanced.

It mentions tantrums, pandering and trans women’s “right to exist” - god knows why that needs quotations - but then asks for empathy.

It's a brilliant article. I can't see any bias in it. Women are not taking anything away from transwomen, they are merely centre-ing themselves as important rather than as there to 'do' for men.

But the protests and the outpourings do amount to tantrums. Shall we post some of the male people who spoke at this weekend's protests and some of the videos they themselves post on line?

And the line 'right to exist' has been featured over and over and over.

Can you please explain how this decision means this group doesn't exist in material reality anymore? It is hyperbolic and emotional manipulation. So, yes, it is put in quotations.

Do you mean this bit?

This is why every time women have suggested that we are a class of humans in our own right, we’ve been accused of wilfully denying trans women’s “right to exist”.

So its a double play on the word by TRA
• Right to exist as the right to live
And
• Right to exist as women must accept that the sub-group of males in the classification of women is justified.

@Never2manys second post creates the concept that wanting SSS is in of itsself transphobic and that there are an acceptable number of rapes which would happen in the mixed sex space.

Never2many · 20/04/2025 22:03
But discussion of trans isn’t allowed to be a general discussion.
You’re either transphobic or you’re flamed for not being.
nobody is allowed to be anything but transphobic on MN. This is why Barclays and Ocado want nothing to do with them.
People have become so far intrenched in the whole single sex spaces argument that they have lost sight of the fact that they have become bigots.
Let’s be honest here, how many women are being raped by trans women? Genuinely? Because it certainly isn’t anything near a large number, but as soon as it happens once the whole trans community is blamed.
Trans people have existed for an eternity. There have always been trans men and women, for as long as I remember.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5318876-why-were-trans-threads-hidden?reply=143718199

This, the goading has been insufferable the last few days.
It is the equivalent of Brexit for the racists.

A lot of them on Mumsnet certainly do lack empathy. Or at least empathy for trans people.

What, because people will be treated as their biological sex by the law?

That's equivalent to racism you think? 🫠

It's unbelievable that a lot of people are likening the SC ruling to Brexit and racism.

But it isn't equal to the rape and death threats prominent Women's Rights activists have received from Trans Rights Activists. Not remotely.

But linking trans rights with racism is literally straight out the pro trans playbook. They were told this was a good tactic to sell trans rights

So how does all this so called 'goading' and 'unpleasantness' compare to this?

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