to not understand why Christians think Jesus died for our sins?

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If Jesus died for everyone's sins, does that mean people are not accountable for their actions? You can kill people, steal and lie but have a protected status because Jesus died for your sins.

How does this work? Why are people not responsible for their own sins? Where is the justice?

I think that strictly speaking being a Christian does entail liberal belief that Christ died and rose again. I'm not actually sceptical but a bit hesitant on this one. However, I know many recorded miracles have happened in history.
Personally, I more relate to the idea of dying as a materialistic ie selfish person and being reborn as a spiritual ie loving other people person.
That makes perfect sense to me!

I find this astonishing?? You and nanny people you know have never done anything wrong??? You have never thought unkind things? You have never neglected to care for someone next you walked past on the street? You have never said something negative about another person behind their back. You have never gossipped? Never reacted in anger to something?

The problem is with sin, that we all compare ourselves to murderers, rapists, paedophiles etc but we need to compare ourselves with Jesus. He never committed a sin. He lived his life totally for others. He had no home, built up no wealth, did not look for a long term relationship. All the things that obsess is. He just went about doing good and challenging the Pharisees of the day who lived by all the rules but we're proud and arrogant. Those who valued their belongings, he told to give them up and follow him. Those who valued their families, he told to prioritise him. He told people they had to deny themselves,take up the cross and follow him.
All the good things we fail to do on a daily basis are as much sin as the bad things we think and do.
I actually have never met a person who does not think they have ever done anything wrong.

SIN is actually an archery term for missing the mark. It is also described as a small word with 'I' in the middle and when we put ourselves first in everything that is the opposite of what Jesus did.

Unitarians are still Christians. Is that correct?

Well sure. But you need an influence outside of yourself to show you HOW to submit to God. Otherwise you're still stuck in your own head.
Remember, Jesus said:
'I am the Way, the Truth and the Light'.

I don’t understand the concept of scapegoating at all. It’s sick.

Yes that makes sense. Isn't that why the prophets were sent? To show the way?

The things you are referring to are not sins imo. I don’t compare myself to Jesus. - I don’t need a religion to dictate how I lead a good life. Atheists can be good people as well!

What is a good life though? That would vary wildly between people.

Agree and I am happy with my interpretation for my life. I’m ticking all the boxes without trying - part of every day life and without religious rules.

I'm sure you're right.
My religious knowledge is vaguely remembered from school days. However, I think the prophets were from the old world but they foretold the coming of Jesus who was for the new world.
I wish I were a biblical scholar. There's so much depth to Christianity that it feels so painful to read some of the teenage-style jibes recently posted here.

Does that work on a societal level where everybody ticks their own boxes according to their own personal interpretations?

I have no idea - I lead my life and lets others decide how to live theirs. Some do wrongs, others life a good life and others live a life following religious rules. I know which I prefer.

The dictionary definition of sin is' the act of breaking a religious or moral law' ' an offence against God or a religious or moral law'

The 2 main laws the New Testament left us with which summarise the 10 commandments are to love the Lord your God with all your heart and love your neighbour as yourself.
Even if we just took the second one, we would fail that multiple times daily.

I’m an atheist so don’t believe in any religious law. Non believers are more than capable of leading a good life without needing to follow the commandments or others religious rules.

Totally agree with this. I lead my life the best way I know. Everyone else is free to live theirs as they choose.

If we are born already sinners and as humans it is impossible to always be 100% perfect, whose fault is that? It’s god’s fault. If we are his creation and we are faulty then it’s the manufacturer’s fault if the toaster doesn’t work properly not the customer who bought it. And don’t blame Eve, she was also his creation and either he made her perfect or he made her with imperfections, it can’t be both.

The main religious rule I follow is to love. However, I do not get to choose who that applies to. I have to live the unlovely as that is who Jesus spent his time with. I am about to meet a friend that many would consider unlovely and my time with her is not always enjoyable, but God loves her unconditionally and asks me to do the same. I am very far from perfect and only see her a couple of times a year but I try to support her and message her. Tomorrow after work I am meeting another lifelong friend. She has horrendous issues to the point where she is banned from most premises in town and at one point was even banned from local mental health services. She has physically assaulted me, told me she hopes me and my children die in a car crash. She has thrown things at me and been arrested more times than I can count but I am told to LOVE her. That is not a feeling. It is an action. To take her out for a meal, be her Lifeline link for emergencies, chat to her when she's is agitated, help her with practicalities of love. She has lots of others who do the same, many of them elderly now who have known her for years. Most of them are committed Christians who have put up with the crap over the years because God gives them a supernatural love for her despite her behaviour.
That to me is what Love your neighbour entails and in the parable of the good Samaritan, it was not the passing priest that stopped to help but a Samaritan who would naturally have been an enemy. We need to love and care about those who are not easy to like and that involves an element of self sacrifice.
Jessie hung out with those that everyone else despised.

But people doing wrong affects others. It is not a case of I will do what I want and others do what they want. We have a system of law in this country so it is not a case of make up what you want and do what you prefer. That leads to anarchy.

That is only if you believe in original sin. As far as I know, only Christianity has this.

My actions don’t hurt others or involve breaking any laws. I know the difference between right and wrong.

I know I’m a good person and lead a good life.

Which shows you what a chaotic mess it all is. Everyone believing in different rules, everyone thinking their religion is the one true one. It’s too ridiculous for me to be a part of.

You don’t need a religion to be a good person. Many Christians seem to have difficulties accepting that atheists are as good a person as someone religious. There are good atheists and good Christians and bad atheists and bad Christians. Your religion doesn’t determine your positive outlook or character.

Anyone who believes that you are born a sinner has some serious issues and needs a major rethink

If you have a partner and he only lives you because he was programmed to do so, would that actually be lovely?? Good created mankind too live and worship him and he made them perfect but with free will . With that free will they choose to live selfishly and not for God only. We still have that choice every day, every decision, to do God's will or or own. Mainly we do what WE want.
I am interested in the question of what is good and bad if you take God out of the equation. Who decides? Where does morality come from? If it is instinctive, who put it there? Do other animals have it? If not why not?

Or maybe the date just prompted the OP to reflect on these matters?