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AIBU?

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... being angry with my parents?

212 replies

RainyWednesday · 16/05/2008 19:40

Spoilt brat alert

My parents are fairly comfortably off, especially now that my dad has retired (mum is SAHM) and they have few outgoings, and have always been extremely generous with money.

A few years ago now, I set about becoming a lawyer. I already had an English degree (which they supported me through), so this meant doing a conversion course (one year), a further one year course, and then two years in a training contract before qualifying as a solicitor. I set about funding this myself, partly through working during university holidays and partly through a bank loan. Because I wanted to be a legal aid lawyer, this meant I had to cover all my course fees and living costs myself (if you have a training contract with a big rich firm then they will generally pay your fees and give you some money towards living costs).

In case it isn't clear from the above, there was a gap of several years between finishing my first degree and starting my course where I was working and supporting myself - I didn't do them back to back.

I did the first course in London and after a while, as my parents knew I was struggling, they offered to pay my rent (£250 a month), which was a huge help. For the second course, I ended up moving back home to live with them - which was fab

When I moved back home, my dad offered to pay my course fees, both for the upcoming year and for the year that I had already done/paid for. I was extremely grateful for this, as you might imagine.

Skip forward a couple of years. Halfway through my two-year training contract, I decided that there was no point me finishing it. I was desperately unhappy - crying most evenings and calling Samaritans a couple of times from work. I found the work utterly depressing. In case it isn't already obvious from the previous two sentences nor did I seem particularly good at it; I'd gone into Legal Aid because I wanted to help people and instead I was just floundering. Finally, my salary was so low that it cost me slightly more to live and work in London than I was getting paid - so I was effectively paying to go to work. I felt there was no point carrying on and left my job. I still consider it one of the best things I ever did.

My parents were extremely upset and angry that I didn't complete my training contract - not because they wanted me to be a lawyer (my mum has said she didn't think I was suited to it) but because they thought I should stick with it. My mum in particular thinks that completeing my training contract would have given me more opportunities, whereas in fact it would, as far as I know, have qualified me for nothing except being a solicitor, which I didn't want to be. I hate upsetting and disappointing them but couldn't face another year of hell just to please them.

Over the next few years, my mum occasionally complained about the fact that I hadn't finished my contract and that I had wasted their money, which really upset me but I bit my tongue because I hate conflict, particularly with them.

Skip forward another couple of years. My DB and his wife bought a house with my parents' help, renovated it and sold it a few months ago for an enormous profit. Because my parents had helped them out and they wouldn't have been able to buy it otherwise, my parents promised to give me and my other brother each £20,000 out of their share of the proceeds. Yay - again I was very grateful for this.

They have recently told me that they've decided to take out of that £20,000 all the money they've given me over the past few years (and the same for my brother too). This means that, less the course fees they paid, it's now something like £11,000.

The main thing that upsets me about this is not that I've "lost" £9,000 (because obviously I haven't lost anything at all - on the contrary, I'm being given a huge sum of money!) but I feel like I'm being punished for not completing my contract. I am sure that, if I'd finished it, it would never have occurred to them to take the money back again.

It also upsets me that a few years ago they gave me a gift and now they've taken it back off me again.

Finally, £1,000 of the money they've claimed back comes from a deposit they paid on the first flat a friend and I rented in 1997. When we moved out, the landlady ripped us off so we didn't have the money to pay back to them and we eventually forgot that we owed it at all (I am mortified about this ). However, they only suddenly started mentioning it about a year ago. Now they've said that they've taken the whole £1,000 off me and if I want my friend's share then I'll have to ask her for it. Which is kind of fair enough but I am too embarrassed to mention it after 11 years and it upsets me that they've effectively passed her debt on to me because they're too embarrassed to ask about it either.

I'm sorry this is so long I feel (marginally) better for purging. On the one hand I feel like I'm being a spoiled bitch because, ffs, someone's giving me £11,000, but on the other I feel like I'm being unfairly punished and it really really upsets me

DH says I should just let it go. I would love to let it go - but how?

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RainyWednesday · 16/05/2008 23:50

Erm, I didn't whine about unsupportive comments - I said thanks for all POV.

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lilolilmanchester · 16/05/2008 23:53

RW, I guess it's just tough for those people who didn't have the opportunity in the first place, or those of us who supported themselves through similar to have much sympathy. Or those who are wondering how they feed their kids for a week on a pittance. Get it???

pinkyp · 17/05/2008 00:04

I think most people are jealouse and hate u for being so greedy. There not actually taking ANY money off u! lol, it was THEIR money anyway! greedy greedy greedy! go take ur poney for a walk

zazen · 17/05/2008 00:04

Sorry I haven't had time to read all posts in detail, and absorb all information.

But, I can see what has happened has upset you RW?
Your DH has given you some advice and you seem to know that you're looking a gift horse in the mouth..

But there's the thing.. you're not happy with how this has turned out -

let's forget about the money for a moment, and say it's a gift of love and affection and acceptance.

Do you feel that you has been short-changed because you didn't live up to her parent's expectations? that you didn't jump through all the hoops and so you gets no scooby-snax.

That's my feeling from your post RW, that you feel you are being punished - BAD DOG - for not finishing something. you might find this book useful...here and, then again, you might not!

I think you could do with a bit of counseling - an experience that let you to seek help in the Samaritans should not be overlooked. And I feel that you haven't really been very clear about WHY you left off the training with your parents - and maybe that's not the kind of information that you can talk about with them? And if not, so be it - but I think you might benefit from talking to someone.

Also you say you hate confrontation and conflict, but I'm reading that you are already embroiled in it, and I'm guessing it has crept up on you in the past and bitten you before? Counseling may help you there to learn how to set boundaries and communicate in a very clear and unambiguous way.

I hope you enjoy your gift - so often we accept gifts and help without realising that there are conditions attached (there shouldn't be I know...) but sometimes they leave a bad taste in the mouth. And I feel you need to investigate why this gift horse is a few teeth short to you.

just my tuppunce!

nobodyputsBBinthecorner · 17/05/2008 12:36

BRAT

duchesse · 17/05/2008 12:45

Gosh I'm kind of hoping they'll change their minds and decide to spend that money on a really good holiday for themselves instead. I think you are being incredibly unreasonable. You are a grown-up, right?

onebatmother · 17/05/2008 12:56

that was rather unkind, I think.

duchesse · 17/05/2008 12:58

Really? I don't we should view our parents in the same light when we are adult as we do when we are children and teenagers. What on earth would be wrong with them spending it on a holiday? They earned it, it's their money. There's no duty on them to keep shuffling money their children's way.

onebatmother · 17/05/2008 13:09

sorry duchesse, x post - mine was to BB

AbbeyA · 17/05/2008 13:11

I agree duchesse, I would far rather that my parents spent their money on themselves. Once children are earning their own living they shouldn't expect anything, but be grateful if they get a gift. OP seems to be getting much more than most people and is still complaining.

nobodyputsBBinthecorner · 17/05/2008 13:13

one bat mother - in my opinion the op is being a brat, i didnt say anything unkind, i did not use foul language.

AbbeyA · 17/05/2008 13:17

Perhaps their mistake has been in always being extremely generous with money so that OP sees it as a right and doesn't appreciate it.

kerala · 17/05/2008 13:29

My parents have taken to travelling the world backpacking and are having a fantastic time. My dad (60 plus) has taken up deep sea diving he loves it. Am thrilled that they are spending our "inheritance" in living their lives to the full while they can.

I got £1k towards training as a lawyer post university and was grateful for it. Apart from that I was told I was on my own financially. This actually gave me a sharp wake up call and focussed the mind, which at 21 is valuable I think. I plan to the same with dd whatever finanical position dh and I are in.

duchesse · 17/05/2008 13:34

Agree Kerala- need does rather focus the mind, especially at an age when most people have only themselves to think about and cater for, and it's actually relatively easy to earn enough for your needs. Even for postgraduate courses there are loans and funds available if what you're doing is valuable to someone.

Everything changes again once one has children of course- there are times I think when a helping hand is nice- eg when you are stuck in the childcare treadmill when a little help would be lovely, but certainly not manadatory.

hercules1 · 17/05/2008 13:35

I think you have to accept that they are doing the right thing and doing it out of love rather than to get you back for not completing the course. They probably blame themselves for you not having finished it and for not teaching you the value of money so that you forgot about a large deposit. This is their way of trying to rectify it.

I would really talk to them as I dont think you are angry more hurt and it needs to be cleared up.

kerala · 17/05/2008 13:38

Yes agree duchesse. I must say that another branch of our family has enormous wealth at the top (granny/baby boomers) while the grandchildren (in their 30s) are struggling with small kids in rented accommodation. Must admit I feel abit about that especially when the 60 year olds are pondering which boat to buy with their inherited wealth whilst the 30 year olds don't have enough for a deposit for a house, and in one case is actually depressed because of unhappiness in a job which he cannot leave because he needs to support his family.

ipanemagirl · 17/05/2008 13:41

These things are never rational.
My dad who has had a load of money over the years has been largely a tight arse with this kids.
My inlaws on the other hand are massively generous to their kids.

These things are complex and of course, not just about the money, your feelings are about their approval as well etc.

None of us are perfectly rational about our parents - none of us!

But for what it's worth you'll almost certainly be happier if you choose to dwell on being up 11 grand rather than down whatever grand!

Some parents wouldn't have shared the profit would they? And some siblings might have been pissed off that the parents shared the profit with other siblings!
Could be a lot lot worse.
Also being generous will shift all your feelings and help things change! Good luck but i know it's hard.

Dynamicnanny · 17/05/2008 16:05

Maybe you shoul just say no thanks to the money then - but am guessing that you're to selfish to do that

amytheearwaxbanisher · 17/05/2008 16:10

how id love to have such a problem yabu

AbbeyA · 17/05/2008 16:10

If RainyWednesday is angry with her parents I think that she just just say 'no thanks' to the money; but somehow I can't see that happening. If my parents were offering me £11000 as a present I wouldn't be asking why it wasn't more!

RainyWednesday · 17/05/2008 16:18

I can understand why many people are responding the way that they are if they are reading the question as "AIBU in being upset that my parents are "only" giving me £11k when they said they would give me £20k?". If I was asked that question then I would respond in exactly the same way that many of you have.

My question was though "AIBU in being upset for feeling that my parents are punishing me for a decision that I made five years ago, that was right for me, and that was mine to make?".

If I thought that they were going without in any way in order to give me and my brothers money then obviously I wouldn't take it!

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hercules1 · 17/05/2008 16:26

But that's where the spoilt bit come in. THey are not punishing you just trying to teach you a lesson about the value of money.

hatrick · 17/05/2008 16:27

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RainyWednesday · 17/05/2008 16:41

I said that I feel I'm being punished, not that I necessarily am.

hatrick it's like you telling DD that you're going to give her a chocolate bar and a half and then saying that actually, because you disagree with something that she did years ago, you're only going to give her one bar.

Anyway, I'm going to try to avoid replying to this now - I keep waiting for it to fall down the page (since MN won't delete it) and then it gets bumped again. Thanks for the replies.

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