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To be sick of dogs in cafes/restaurants etc

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Dreamingi · 19/04/2025 18:07

Just this really
obviously not service dogs

but why all of a sudden is it ok for dogs to be allowed places where others are eating?!?

OP posts:
SquashedSquid · 21/04/2025 16:07

I'm not in England and I definitely prefer my dogs to other people's children.

Onleemoi · 21/04/2025 16:08

Other people’s children are a pain in the backside. Of course I prefer my pet.

YeOldeGreyhound · 21/04/2025 16:09

My dog has been in my life for over 14 years. Your kid... a few minutes. I am not wrong for giving more of a shit about my dog.

CamillaMacauley · 21/04/2025 16:11

DarkForces · 21/04/2025 10:13

So what's the plan after saying this?

I assume if the waiter tells them it’s dog friendly then they will have to leave, otherwise if they stay then they look a bit of an idiot. 🤷‍♀️. Or maybe they will decide their allergy is ok as long as they aren’t right next to a dog. Though of course no guarantee a dog doesn’t come to the next table after the allergic poster has sat down.

CamillaMacauley · 21/04/2025 16:14

Kardamyli2 · 21/04/2025 13:55

Or they may prevent anyone bringing a dog in while I'm there

I doubt it . If a regular customer has traveled to a known dog friendly place they won’t turn them away. They’ll just warn you that dogs may be there/may arrive.

i know someone who informs the waiting staff of her very serious anaphylaxis allergies to 16 different food stuffs. She gives them her list. Recently the waiter came back and said the chef wanted to know how serious her allergies were, she replied she would die. They said they couldn’t serve her. Oh the backtracking which commenced on her part was hilarious. They made her sign a death waiver before serving her. 😆😆

YeOldeGreyhound · 21/04/2025 16:19

CamillaMacauley · 21/04/2025 16:14

I doubt it . If a regular customer has traveled to a known dog friendly place they won’t turn them away. They’ll just warn you that dogs may be there/may arrive.

i know someone who informs the waiting staff of her very serious anaphylaxis allergies to 16 different food stuffs. She gives them her list. Recently the waiter came back and said the chef wanted to know how serious her allergies were, she replied she would die. They said they couldn’t serve her. Oh the backtracking which commenced on her part was hilarious. They made her sign a death waiver before serving her. 😆😆

Edited

I have stayed in a holiday caravan where we had to sign something saying we would not have seafood there. The owner of the caravan was deathly allergic to seafood, and even cleaning the plate afterwards was not enough.

Sally20099 · 21/04/2025 16:26

The entitlement of many dog owners is unmatched - THEY ARE ANIMALS NOT HUMANS!!

YeOldeGreyhound · 21/04/2025 16:28

Sally20099 · 21/04/2025 16:26

The entitlement of many dog owners is unmatched - THEY ARE ANIMALS NOT HUMANS!!

It is not entitled to take a dog to somewhere that they are welcome.

However, people like you who go into a dog friendly place and insist it being vacated of dogs... you are the entitled one

DarkForces · 21/04/2025 16:28

Sally20099 · 21/04/2025 16:26

The entitlement of many dog owners is unmatched - THEY ARE ANIMALS NOT HUMANS!!

I know. Taking dogs into places that they are allowed and spending money in them. Shocking behaviour.

Kardamyli2 · 21/04/2025 16:32

CamillaMacauley · 21/04/2025 16:14

I doubt it . If a regular customer has traveled to a known dog friendly place they won’t turn them away. They’ll just warn you that dogs may be there/may arrive.

i know someone who informs the waiting staff of her very serious anaphylaxis allergies to 16 different food stuffs. She gives them her list. Recently the waiter came back and said the chef wanted to know how serious her allergies were, she replied she would die. They said they couldn’t serve her. Oh the backtracking which commenced on her part was hilarious. They made her sign a death waiver before serving her. 😆😆

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Your friend's allergies to foodstuffs are irrelevant. I am allergic to dogs.

YeOldeGreyhound · 21/04/2025 16:35

Kardamyli2 · 21/04/2025 16:32

Your friend's allergies to foodstuffs are irrelevant. I am allergic to dogs.

then don't go in to places that allow dogs.

Kardamyli2 · 21/04/2025 16:37

YeOldeGreyhound · 21/04/2025 16:35

then don't go in to places that allow dogs.

Lol. You're funny!

YeOldeGreyhound · 21/04/2025 16:38

Kardamyli2 · 21/04/2025 16:37

Lol. You're funny!

Not as funny as someone who goes to dog friendly places and then wants the dogs removed.

8dateslater · 21/04/2025 16:39

Kardamyli2 · 21/04/2025 16:32

Your friend's allergies to foodstuffs are irrelevant. I am allergic to dogs.

No but unless you've attempted to disclose an allergy recently then it's completely wild to assume that they would serve you rather than people with dog

My best friend has a specific nut allergy. When she goes into places some of them point blank refuse to serve her.

Once you disclose an allergy, you get met with auto rejection and at best a stern lecture, lots of paperwork to sign and a binder of stuff

They don't stop serving the allergens, they just kick you out!

Even though hers is a specific nut and not life threatening (as of yet) they outright refuse any responsibility. Sometimes they won't serve her anything, sometimes they just wipe their hands of any responsibility, sometimes will dictate what you can do (so for example stop her ordering anything with any form of possible nut Cross contamination despite her saying its ok), they sometimes have a single dish she's "allowed" to order. Eg recently she wasn't allowed to order a drink because of the cross contamination with a nut milk within the machine, despite her not having an allergy to that nut

If you tell the people with the folder, it won't end the way you think if they know they've once had a dog walk past

8dateslater · 21/04/2025 16:46

No offence to the people with the allergy folders by the way. I completely understand why they are so strict

Just a comment on the idea you can disclose an allergy and expect a certain reaction

Kardamyli2 · 21/04/2025 16:47

8dateslater · 21/04/2025 16:39

No but unless you've attempted to disclose an allergy recently then it's completely wild to assume that they would serve you rather than people with dog

My best friend has a specific nut allergy. When she goes into places some of them point blank refuse to serve her.

Once you disclose an allergy, you get met with auto rejection and at best a stern lecture, lots of paperwork to sign and a binder of stuff

They don't stop serving the allergens, they just kick you out!

Even though hers is a specific nut and not life threatening (as of yet) they outright refuse any responsibility. Sometimes they won't serve her anything, sometimes they just wipe their hands of any responsibility, sometimes will dictate what you can do (so for example stop her ordering anything with any form of possible nut Cross contamination despite her saying its ok), they sometimes have a single dish she's "allowed" to order. Eg recently she wasn't allowed to order a drink because of the cross contamination with a nut milk within the machine, despite her not having an allergy to that nut

If you tell the people with the folder, it won't end the way you think if they know they've once had a dog walk past

Edited

But I'm not planning to eat a dog 🤮.

It's wild how many posters have such poor comprehension that they don't understand that I've repeatedly said I wouldn't try to eat in a place that allows dogs. Anyway, it's good to know how many people have no empathy for allergy sufferers. Do you all crack open the peanuts when flight attendants have asked for a nut free flight?

8dateslater · 21/04/2025 16:53

Kardamyli2 · 21/04/2025 16:47

But I'm not planning to eat a dog 🤮.

It's wild how many posters have such poor comprehension that they don't understand that I've repeatedly said I wouldn't try to eat in a place that allows dogs. Anyway, it's good to know how many people have no empathy for allergy sufferers. Do you all crack open the peanuts when flight attendants have asked for a nut free flight?

I've just realised you weren't the original poster of the allergy comment, sorry!

I was specifically talking about a poster upthread talking about how they would tell restaurants they had an allergy to dogs to see if that would stop them accepting dogs after she came in.

It was a comment about how if you disclose an allergy to somewhere who doesn't think they meet it, they will just kick you out. They are often very strict

Of course I wouldn't (hence friend with nut allergy!) I'm also strict about never taking my dog somewhere where dogs aren't allowed. I never sneak them anywhere.

I was specifically talking about in dog friendly places.

Unfortunately as my friend well knows, controlling allergens in the wild is hard. In fact she avoids places with children because it's children who tend to leave food places, or have parents feeding them her allergen out of packets etc in things like museums etc

dothehokeycokey · 21/04/2025 17:09

We went into a local farm shop yesterday for lunch in their cafe.
dogs everywhere which wouldn’t be an issue as we have dogs and are dog lovers but I watched someone’s dog throw up all over the cafe floor right next to a table of people eating it was disgusting.
the owner just stood there waiting for some poor member of staff to get a mop and bucket and clean it up Confused

that member of staff isn’t paid to clean up dog sick or piss like the one I saw in the corner doing or anything else and I certainly don’t want to sit in a cafe where dogs are messing everywhere.

YeOldeGreyhound · 21/04/2025 17:11

dothehokeycokey · 21/04/2025 17:09

We went into a local farm shop yesterday for lunch in their cafe.
dogs everywhere which wouldn’t be an issue as we have dogs and are dog lovers but I watched someone’s dog throw up all over the cafe floor right next to a table of people eating it was disgusting.
the owner just stood there waiting for some poor member of staff to get a mop and bucket and clean it up Confused

that member of staff isn’t paid to clean up dog sick or piss like the one I saw in the corner doing or anything else and I certainly don’t want to sit in a cafe where dogs are messing everywhere.

The dog owner wont have been able to clean up to an acceptable standard. And that same worker will also have to clean up kid vomit too. It is the peril of working with the public.

ruethewhirl · 21/04/2025 18:11

Kardamyli2 · 19/04/2025 19:11

I'm not far off your age and never ever saw a dog in a shop or cafe, restaurant etc when I was young. It's only in the last few years that dogs have appeared everywhere. If you had your way those of us who are allergic to dogs would be completely unable to use all indoor public places. As it is I've had to leave cafes and restaurants because someone brings a hairy mutt out for lunch.

Same. 'No Dogs Allowed' was pretty much the norm for years and years.

CamillaMacauley · 21/04/2025 18:14

My Dd threw up on the floor in McDonald’s once. I was mortified and offered to clean it up but they declined and were lovely about it. I know my dog wouldn’t wee or poo inside. My kid has more chance of doing a no warning vomit than my dog does to be honest as dog generally looks Peaky beforehand and also retches for ages before actually being sick. I’d be sprinting outside with her. Dd could go from 0-60 in under a second!

8dateslater · 21/04/2025 18:41

ruethewhirl · 21/04/2025 18:11

Same. 'No Dogs Allowed' was pretty much the norm for years and years.

I can't remember if it was this thread but lots of rules have changed that imo means there's more dogs about

My mums childhood dog would go shopping with them and was tied up outside shops etc (no longer allowed, dog theft and actually was the cause of lots of dog bites at the time!)
Her dog also used to be left in the garden when they went out for really long periods or even worse just turned out into the street. (Again dog bites, dog laws about roaming and knowing better)

When i was a kid our dog was left for really long periods at a time- we know better now. We also used to leave it in the car a lot. Again not done now.

We used to take ours on holiday but leave it in the campervan, holiday apartment etc

All those places now have rules.

If you think of somewhere like the lake district or busy coastal holiday town. Every single person on holiday camping in tents, every person in a static holiday van by the main companies and most of the people in holiday self let's will be staying somewhere where their dogs can't be left.

Some may chose to leave them, but in general most hotels, holiday lets etc all mandate dogs aren't left

Dog owners make a huge percentage of the people that holiday in the uk, now people have a much wider choice of holidaying abroad and those still here tend to be people take their dogs with them. in my childhood it was less so as people stayed in the uk.

I don't always take my dog to restaurants, when I do its because it's mostly because I'm on holiday and unable to leave them. I don't always holiday with them, but if I do stay in the UK, it's usually either city breaks or with them

coldcallerbaiter · 21/04/2025 18:42

CamillaMacauley · 21/04/2025 18:14

My Dd threw up on the floor in McDonald’s once. I was mortified and offered to clean it up but they declined and were lovely about it. I know my dog wouldn’t wee or poo inside. My kid has more chance of doing a no warning vomit than my dog does to be honest as dog generally looks Peaky beforehand and also retches for ages before actually being sick. I’d be sprinting outside with her. Dd could go from 0-60 in under a second!

Why are you comparing a dog with a small human being? My child was sick in a store once and I asked for a mop to clean it up too. She had actually had an allergic reaction and that was just the start of it. If a person is genuinely sick and not drunk, it’s one of those unfortunate things. An animal being sick, pissing whatever is still just an animal, someone’s pet, plus they are more much more prone to piss shit and drink than a human. They aren’t the same or even close in any way. Dog owners think because customers and cafe owners don’t scream at them to get out, it means their dog is welcome- look at the mn poll.

YeOldeGreyhound · 21/04/2025 18:46

coldcallerbaiter · 21/04/2025 18:42

Why are you comparing a dog with a small human being? My child was sick in a store once and I asked for a mop to clean it up too. She had actually had an allergic reaction and that was just the start of it. If a person is genuinely sick and not drunk, it’s one of those unfortunate things. An animal being sick, pissing whatever is still just an animal, someone’s pet, plus they are more much more prone to piss shit and drink than a human. They aren’t the same or even close in any way. Dog owners think because customers and cafe owners don’t scream at them to get out, it means their dog is welcome- look at the mn poll.

Ha, you are making out that a dog would piss/vomit/shit out of some sort of malice.
Dogs are like small children. There is an age they are the equivalent of, although I forget what it is. Neither piss/shit etc on purpose.

If we are being bitchy, then you should have not taken your child into a store when they were feeling unwell. You should have stayed at home.

coldcallerbaiter · 21/04/2025 19:00

YeOldeGreyhound · 21/04/2025 18:46

Ha, you are making out that a dog would piss/vomit/shit out of some sort of malice.
Dogs are like small children. There is an age they are the equivalent of, although I forget what it is. Neither piss/shit etc on purpose.

If we are being bitchy, then you should have not taken your child into a store when they were feeling unwell. You should have stayed at home.

I don’t find it bitchy, she wasn’t unwell until she was, sudden and projectile and unforeseen.

Being bitchy would be clarifying they aren’t anywhere near the same due to being an animal much like a pig or goat, with the example. Your child is run over accidentally, deep tragedy forever. Your dog is, go to pet shop and buy another…

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