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TRAs deface Millicent Fawcett statue

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Peony1897 · 19/04/2025 17:16

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/19/transgender-activists-deface-millicent-fawcett-statue/

How dare they.

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Lucelady · 19/04/2025 19:17

@Diverze
What is a 'cunty type' woman?
Because all biological women have one!

NoFineBalance · 19/04/2025 19:21

Stunning and brave. You are all just jealous of their legs or summat.

Helleofabore · 19/04/2025 19:22

Diverze · 19/04/2025 18:02

People are allowed to protest.

Anyone hurt? Was anyone behaving violently? Anyone arrested?

Quite a few parents of trans adults I know attended and they describe it as powerful, supportive and positive and said they didn't see any trouble.

And X is not the most reliable and non biased of sources is it, any more than pink news?

Also, would "fag rights" be written by a trans person?

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I know several trans people who call themselves that term.

Diverze · 19/04/2025 19:25

Lucelady · 19/04/2025 19:17

@Diverze
What is a 'cunty type' woman?
Because all biological women have one!

It's a statement in reasonably common usage on this site, surprised you haven't seen it written before. I wrote it because if I had written it was about 50 percent women then a bunch of people would have jumped on it to say that trans women are not women and shouldn't be included. I was trying to be clear I wasn't including them in that stat...

Diverze · 19/04/2025 19:29

Helleofabore · 19/04/2025 19:22

I know several trans people who call themselves that term.

Ok. I thought fags was an unpleasant term for male homosexuals.

Elclr · 19/04/2025 19:30

exwhyzed · 19/04/2025 18:11

I've seen the pictures.

My observation is I couldn't attend a protest on an Easter Bank Holiday with only a few days notice - coz, childcare/Easter egg hunts to sort, responsibilities to see elderly family etc.

Do these men with their womanly feels not have these womanly responsibilities too? Clearly not.

Please do not equate this with me thinking you're actually saying I need children to be a woman, but let's not reduce what makes a woman down to that.

Had I any wish to be at this protest today? Yes I could go if I had wanted to. My ability to trot to London on a whim makes me no less female. My inability to have children shouldn't ever be used as a card to question me and my womanhood. I know you probably didn't mean that, but it comes across that way, and just serves as a way of making divisions within our sex.

viques · 19/04/2025 19:30

The irony of men who want to be women defacing the statue of a woman who fought for womens right to vote. Almost as though that old male privilege is seeping through the cracks again.

Helleofabore · 19/04/2025 19:31

Diverze · 19/04/2025 19:29

Ok. I thought fags was an unpleasant term for male homosexuals.

It is. It most definitely is. And yet, I know some people with transgender identities who use it.

OctopusFriend · 19/04/2025 19:32

I wonder if any of them have any idea who Millicent Fawcett was? I suspect not.

SingleAHF · 19/04/2025 19:33

WorriedMutha · 19/04/2025 17:30

Isn't the Fawcett Society pro trans?

yes.

ColourThief · 19/04/2025 19:33

Another day, another chance for mumsnet to bitch about the trans community 🥱

SingleAHF · 19/04/2025 19:34

OctopusFriend · 19/04/2025 19:32

I wonder if any of them have any idea who Millicent Fawcett was? I suspect not.

Of course they don't. They are not interested in women's history, female heroes, or anything about real women, just their fantasy of submissive femininity and the way women are depicted in porn.

Waitwhat23 · 19/04/2025 19:36

And at the Edinburgh protest, a man with a loudspeaker shouting 'give us wombs, give us titties'.

Stay classy, lads.

TheKeatingFive · 19/04/2025 19:36

ColourThief · 19/04/2025 19:33

Another day, another chance for mumsnet to bitch about the trans community 🥱

So what? You think this is acceptable behaviour?

AlexandraLeaving · 19/04/2025 19:36

countrysidedeficit · 19/04/2025 19:01

Listening to the hand down and following reactions since, I do think part of the problem is that in the 50 short years since the Sex Discrimination Act 1975 a lot of the collective understanding of why sex is a protected characteristic, and why the law seeks to protect women, has been lost or forgotten.

So many of the outraged responses reveal no understanding of that at all (even though it is explained in the judgment).

I think you’re spot on with this analysis.

The SC confirmed that the protections we thought we had secured in 1975 (or that our foremothers secured - I made little contribution at primary school!) still applied. And that matters.

OctopusFriend · 19/04/2025 19:37

SingleAHF · 19/04/2025 19:34

Of course they don't. They are not interested in women's history, female heroes, or anything about real women, just their fantasy of submissive femininity and the way women are depicted in porn.

I suspect that you are right. Otherwise, why deface the statue of such a courageous woman of achievement? A woman whose life's work was the advancement of female suffrage?
I find it quite extraordinary.

SingleAHF · 19/04/2025 19:41

I spent a lot of time watching a very long film footage of the protest today and what struck me was that about 99% of attendees looked like ordinary men and women, not trans. So I guess the majority who attended were attracted by the opportunity to virtue-signal.

It was very interesting to hear an impartial reporter interview some young female handmaidens at another trans outdoor event a few weeks ago. Her questions revealed that they are entirely ignorant of the issues and that they were unable to offer any coherent argument in favour of trans activism or the destruction of SSS. A couple were only there because "a mate" had asked them to come along and show support for a 'poor abused marginalised vulnerable minority group' and they had no idea what the protest was about.

Errors · 19/04/2025 19:44

ALL the irony

lottiegarbanzo · 19/04/2025 19:45

’We hate women we do’. Uh huh, got that.

viques · 19/04/2025 19:46

ColourThief · 19/04/2025 19:33

Another day, another chance for mumsnet to bitch about the trans community 🥱

Community, now that’s an interesting concept isn’t it - because what I see and hear is a lot of shouty people whose idea of community is very different to mine. I see very separate groups of people who aren’t, for example, interested in working together to secure safe third spaces for trans people , or working with experienced womens group to find out how best to fund and run domestic abuse refuges or rape centres for transwomen, I see groups of people who are happy to turn on their own lesbian colleagues if they have the temerity to say they don’t want to have sex with transwomen. I see people whose understanding of community is on the level of their understanding of the relationship between rights and privilege, ie “it’s yours, I want it, now it’s mine”And they call us rights hoarding dinosaurs!

borntobequiet · 19/04/2025 19:46

That’s really not nice. However, the Fawcett Society is trans inclusive so I’m sure will forgive and forget.

Numpties.

JeremiahBullfrog · 19/04/2025 19:48

Diverze · 19/04/2025 18:52

Let's just flip that, shall we?

"Moderate muslims have allowed violent activists to hijack their cause and plan and carry out terrorist attacks frequently and violently for the past 10 years. As a result, they have lost all the goodwill ordinary white British people afforded them. Why did they allow them to do that all these years, and yesterday?"

It is not appropriate to blame moderate members of a group for the actions of extremists members of the group, nor to hold them responsible for those extremists.

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Moderate Muslims went out of their way to condemn extremism, trans activists seem entirely uninterested in calling out the less savoury elements within their ranks.

Also trans people seem to go on about being violently oppressed a lot more often than Muslims. Making violent threats doesn't fit terribly well with having "we're such poor widdle helpless victims" as a core part of your identity.

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thiswilloutme · 19/04/2025 19:49

ColourThief · 19/04/2025 19:33

Another day, another chance for mumsnet to bitch about the trans community 🥱

yes, because their protest was so calm and dignified and they did no damage, what on earth have we got to bitch about eh? 🙄

Diverze · 19/04/2025 19:50

TheKeatingFive · 19/04/2025 19:36

So what? You think this is acceptable behaviour?

I think the behaviour of the 19900 who didn't deface the statue or carry idiotic signs inciting violence was acceptable. Protesting is acceptable.

A lot of the signs were 'trans rights now'. If trans people are mobilising to fight for third spaces that would be great, wouldn't it?

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