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To think you should never cohabit with a man unless he’s paying the majority of the bills?

685 replies

ThisSereneSnail · 19/04/2025 13:47

Split finances = split energy.

OP posts:
AllProperTeaIsTheft · 19/04/2025 14:35

ThisSereneSnail · 19/04/2025 14:31

Or maybe it just sounds unfamiliar because women are finally putting language to what we’ve felt for a long time without sugarcoating it. Masculine provision and emotional polarity aren’t exclusive to the manosphere - they’re values many women hold. We’ve just been taught not to speak about them without apology. If that sounds “too polished” or uncomfortable, maybe that says more about the listener than the speaker.

It doesn't sound unfamiliar. On the contrary, it sounds depressingly old-fashioned and familiar. Are you really trying to dress up this patriarchal bullshit as some new idea?!

Charlize43 · 19/04/2025 14:35

Is this a reverse? Are you a cocklodger?

ThisSereneSnail · 19/04/2025 14:36

Charlize43 · 19/04/2025 14:29

'masculine provider energy'. sounds so retro.

Are you one of these 'rinsers' that I was reading about online that expects a man to take you out for a luxury meal and drinks at a top restaurant and then give you an expensive Cartier jewellery piece because you think you are special and worth it?

Good luck with that.

No, I’m not a “rinser” and I don’t think expecting masculine provision in a relationship means expecting luxury dinners and Cartier bracelets. What I said was about share values and polarity: if I’m contributing emotionally, practically and often carrying the invisible load that keeps things running, I want to feel secure and supported in return and yes, that includes financial leadership.

It’s nothing to do with rinsing - it’s about choosing a dynamic that works for both people. Some of us just don’t want a partner that feels like a flatmate with benefits. That doesn’t make us entitled - it makes us clear.

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Quacksalver · 19/04/2025 14:36

pinotnow · 19/04/2025 14:12

I really hate the phrase 'show up' when used in the way the OP does. It always gives a sniff of claptrap and it's absolutely reeking here.

And we've had "holding it down" and "low vibe" too! I think I'm gonna need a bingo card!

ilovesooty · 19/04/2025 14:37

Good grief. I think the OP is actually serious. 🤔

Uricon2 · 19/04/2025 14:38

Well, when the "energy" of the "masculine provider" finds a focus elsewhere and you're left up financial shit creek sans paddle as the "leadership" has checked out, all that emotional nurture won't amount to a roof or an income.

Unless you mean he pays for everything and you hang on to all your money, which is equally dodgy in a different way.

Allthesnowallthetime · 19/04/2025 14:38

It could work.

If he's your dad and you are under 18.

I'd expect a dad to pay for their child.

Herewegoagainandagainandagain · 19/04/2025 14:38

MidnightPatrol · 19/04/2025 14:23

You sound like you think the world owes you a living tbh.

What would happen if this ‘provider’ became ill and couldn’t work any more?

While I think you have a point, I am more swayed to thinking it is a woman raised without confidence in her own abilities, or not motivated/too lazy/scared/doesn't know how to explore them, in the big bad outside word and wanting to move directly from being under parental wings, to another parental figure.

It probably stems from either the parents own relationship, or poor parenting.

Shame really as it leads to only living half a life and very one sided relationship - risky strategy when a relationship fails and they simply don't know how to support themselves.

ThisSereneSnail · 19/04/2025 14:39

arcticpandas · 19/04/2025 14:32

Oh Elon, are you recruiting mummies in the UK now?

Or maybe I’m just someone who holds a different standard and doesn’t need to wrap it up in sarcasm to feel smart. We can joke all we like but roles, values and relationship expectations are still conversations worth having, even if they make people uncomfortable.

OP posts:
MorrisZapp · 19/04/2025 14:39

Oh god are you that 'feminine energy' weirdo off tiktok?

GCAcademic · 19/04/2025 14:39

What an utter waste of women's potential that would be.

Sad that you have such limited expectations for yourself.

NineLivesKat · 19/04/2025 14:40

‘Financial leadership? WTAF?

Bert2025 · 19/04/2025 14:40

This reads as if a particularly partisan AI has generated it.

SeriaMau · 19/04/2025 14:41

ThisSereneSnail · 19/04/2025 14:00

Because “fair” doesn’t always mean “equal in numbers.” In many relationships, women are already contributing more in emotional labour, home management, caregiving, and keeping the relationship connected. If the man is also paying exactly half - who’s really carrying more weight?

I’m not against balance. I just don’t believe identical roles = healthy dynamics. Some of us value traditional masculine provision - not out of weakness but because we bring a different kind of strength.

I do most of the cooking, most of the driving, most holiday organisation, most of the tidying. My partner does most of the laundry, most of the mowing, most of the cleaning, most of the shopping. So who should pay the majority of the bills? I am genuinely intrigued.

vodkaredbullgirl · 19/04/2025 14:41

Bet it was a man that made this crap up.

x2boys · 19/04/2025 14:42

ThisSereneSnail · 19/04/2025 14:36

No, I’m not a “rinser” and I don’t think expecting masculine provision in a relationship means expecting luxury dinners and Cartier bracelets. What I said was about share values and polarity: if I’m contributing emotionally, practically and often carrying the invisible load that keeps things running, I want to feel secure and supported in return and yes, that includes financial leadership.

It’s nothing to do with rinsing - it’s about choosing a dynamic that works for both people. Some of us just don’t want a partner that feels like a flatmate with benefits. That doesn’t make us entitled - it makes us clear.

Do you actually.have a partner that happily goes along with your fantasy, aka being a complete mug or is it all just wishful thinking ?

Isometimeswonder · 19/04/2025 14:42

The 1950s are calling, they want the housewife back

ThisSereneSnail · 19/04/2025 14:43

Pleasegodgotosleep · 19/04/2025 14:34

Why should one person be fully holding it down? And why the man? Why wouldn't you be a team?

I do believe in being a team, just not a team where both people are playing the exact same position. For me, a relationship works best when we each bring different strengths. I show up emotionally, practically, and often take the lead in nurturing the relationship and home. I value a man who leads financially and brings stability. That’s how I feel supported and how I’m best able to pour into the relationship. It’s not about one person holding it down entirely - it’s about not both holding half while both feeling like we’re carrying more than that.

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Outofthepan · 19/04/2025 14:43

Is this Lauren off of MAFS AUS?

GCAcademic · 19/04/2025 14:43

NineLivesKat · 19/04/2025 14:40

‘Financial leadership? WTAF?

Every man could be Chief Financial Officer of his own household, if only his wife let him!

GCAcademic · 19/04/2025 14:44

vodkaredbullgirl · 19/04/2025 14:41

Bet it was a man that made this crap up.

It does give off a bit of a red pill vibe.

SeriaMau · 19/04/2025 14:45

ThisSereneSnail · 19/04/2025 14:26

I’m aware and I’m okay with that. Not everything needs to be posted for agreement. Sometimes it’s just about saying the thing out loud that others are thinking but won’t say. I knew it would be unpopular, that doesn’t make it untrue.

Well, I think if literally everyone disagrees with you on something based on opinion rather than solid fact, I think it does make it ‘untrue’ or ‘wrong’. At least in our society.

intrepidpanda · 19/04/2025 14:45

Just curious @ThisSereneSnail.
if you have daughters, are you raising them to be mums or are you encouraging a career?
If you have sons, are you teaching them any housekeeping skills?

BigHeadBertha · 19/04/2025 14:45

In that case, you need to be quiet and get back in kitchen, little lady. eye roll

Mercurial123 · 19/04/2025 14:45

ThisSereneSnail · 19/04/2025 13:57

Because I believe in masculine provider energy and I’m not looking to split hairs or bills. If I’m showing up emotionally, practically, and often doing more of the invisible labour that keeps a household running, I don’t think it’s wild to expect financial leadership in return. It’s about alignment. Some of us just don’t want a 50/50 roommate dynamic in our relationships.

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You want to be a trad wife?!

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