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14 year old not invited to stepsister’s wedding

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Ombreofmyself · 18/04/2025 15:03

Stepdaughter is getting married. My husband is paying for everything but dress and flowers.

Our six year old and nine year old are in the wedding, but that’s another story. They are half sisters to the bride.

My 14 year old, step sister to the bride isn’t invited.

Made husband clarify with her. Stepdaughter confirmed so I am not going.

Husband is upset but seems completely incapable of thinking rationally and insisting on her coming but then says why can’t she go to her Dad’s. He should insist as he is paying.

OP posts:
NoSoapJustUseShowerGel · 19/04/2025 00:27

Your husband really needs to raise it again with the bride. Point out how difficult and hurtful it would be, and gently remind her that he’d be the one paying for your daughter’s dinner anyway, so what difference would it actually make to the bride if she attended? He’s not asking for her to be included as a bridesmaid- bride and groom would probably barely notice she was there. You need to insist he asks her again.

Usernamexyz1 · 19/04/2025 00:27

NurtureGrow · 19/04/2025 00:20

@Usernamexyz1 I understand what you are saying, but I think it will affect DD deeply, unfortunately. She will know she is the only one that didn’t go. Her younger sisters would go and be flower girls. Maybe photos of the wedding would be put in the house, with DD not in it. It’s sad, I feel sorry for DD.

Look, if OP is really concerned about this, her choice is to leave the marriage! I have hesitated to say this. Op is either going to suck it up or pack her bags. Ruining the wedding of a 29 yo hurt woman is just as bad. DH not knowing what went wrong and being unable to be there for his 3 kids at same time because op is not there is just bad. Unfortunately this is the cross they must bear. Grin and bear or pack bags. There’s no middle ground it’s too late! Years of hidden hurt can’t be undone over night this late either. Yes, it’s all very sad!

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 19/04/2025 00:27

NurtureGrow · 19/04/2025 00:20

@Usernamexyz1 I understand what you are saying, but I think it will affect DD deeply, unfortunately. She will know she is the only one that didn’t go. Her younger sisters would go and be flower girls. Maybe photos of the wedding would be put in the house, with DD not in it. It’s sad, I feel sorry for DD.

I wouldn't have any photos up in the house tbh. I wouldn't have any hurtful reminders for your DD. I wouldn't have DSD in the house again either. @Ombreofmyself your DH and your younger DDs can meet up with her elsewhere.

I think it's too late for an invitation now anyway. It would just be uncomfortable. As your DDs appear to also be 'othered' in terms of where they get ready, maybe you could pop in and see them there?

CandidRobin · 19/04/2025 00:28

saraclara · 18/04/2025 22:07

If her reason is that she's not related to SD, he should remind her that many of her other guests won't be either. And their plus ones will have even less connection.

It's not remotely a logical reason not to invite her because she's not related by blood. The bride is quite deliberately doing something that she knows will be divisive, purely it seems, out of spite.

Of course this is a logical reason. Many of the guests not related to the bride will be important to either her or her fiancé and therefore she or he will want them at her wedding. There will also be blood relations invited who she is not especially close to, but with whom she has a history especially during her formative years. She is perfectly entitled not to invite someone who is neither related nor important to her or her fiancé irrespective of the age of that person.

WhoMeMissYesYouMiss · 19/04/2025 00:29

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 18/04/2025 23:57

If you think that's what "manners" are I can only surmise you must be lacking in that department.

A 14 year old stepsister is not "all and sundry" either!

The only thing that I am lacking is tolerance for people like you who live in the dark ages.

For the bride the 14 old is only the child of the woman married to her father. She does not consider her family and probably doesn't consider the OP family either. She doesn't have to. It sounds like she doesn't have any ill will but nor does she feel particular warmth to wards them. She does not have to. She does not have prioritise the 14 year olds feelings on her wedding day nor does she have to prioritise the feeling of her father's wife.

Nant90 · 19/04/2025 00:32

@NurtureGrow I missed it when you posted but have just seen it quoted that you suggest OP shows her DH this thread! If I was him reading this pile-on I would be pretty livid as the OP, while she hasn't added to it, hasn't defended her SD from all the name-calling. I imagine reading this would entrench his opinion that he needs to support his dd in her wishes, especially if he feels guilty for his lack of parenting in the past, which I suspect he does which is why he is paying.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 19/04/2025 00:34

WhoMeMissYesYouMiss · 19/04/2025 00:29

The only thing that I am lacking is tolerance for people like you who live in the dark ages.

For the bride the 14 old is only the child of the woman married to her father. She does not consider her family and probably doesn't consider the OP family either. She doesn't have to. It sounds like she doesn't have any ill will but nor does she feel particular warmth to wards them. She does not have to. She does not have prioritise the 14 year olds feelings on her wedding day nor does she have to prioritise the feeling of her father's wife.

If you call having consideration, diplomacy and manners "living in the dark ages", then I am happy to reside there. Carry right on being ageist though. Speaks volumes about your character. I probably have knickers older than you.

She doesn't have to "prioritise" anyone. She needs to invite her stepsister so as not to upset her and make her feel like she doesn't belong and to keep the peace in the family. She is prepared to drive a juggernaut through that. I hope she is prepared for the consequences.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 19/04/2025 00:34

Nant90 · 19/04/2025 00:32

@NurtureGrow I missed it when you posted but have just seen it quoted that you suggest OP shows her DH this thread! If I was him reading this pile-on I would be pretty livid as the OP, while she hasn't added to it, hasn't defended her SD from all the name-calling. I imagine reading this would entrench his opinion that he needs to support his dd in her wishes, especially if he feels guilty for his lack of parenting in the past, which I suspect he does which is why he is paying.

Oh god definitely do not show your DH this thread!!!

InterIgnis · 19/04/2025 00:37

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 19/04/2025 00:34

If you call having consideration, diplomacy and manners "living in the dark ages", then I am happy to reside there. Carry right on being ageist though. Speaks volumes about your character. I probably have knickers older than you.

She doesn't have to "prioritise" anyone. She needs to invite her stepsister so as not to upset her and make her feel like she doesn't belong and to keep the peace in the family. She is prepared to drive a juggernaut through that. I hope she is prepared for the consequences.

What negative consequences for her, exactly? Not having a relationship with two people she’s not particularly bothered by?

Her father isn’t going to ban her from his home, nor deny her a relationship with her half sisters.

HellDorado · 19/04/2025 00:40

NiceoneSonny · 19/04/2025 00:07

Where in the OP's posts are you getting the information that the 14 year old barely sees her stepsister, isn't close to her, doesn't see her very often and they don't have a sibling relationship?

We know the 29 years old doesn't regard the 14 year old as a sister. That doesn't mean the 14 year old feels the same way. OP has already said she will be devastated to learn she is not invited. That hardly sounds like detachment on the 14 year old's part.

Because the two versions are incompatible. It makes sense that the OP’s daughter’s feelings might be more towards one end of the scale, but not that they would be at such a total extreme. She might have thought she had a better relationship with her stepsister than this, but on the other hand, if all you get from someone on your birthday is “Happy birthday mate”, that doesn’t suggest virtual siblings.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 19/04/2025 00:40

InterIgnis · 19/04/2025 00:37

What negative consequences for her, exactly? Not having a relationship with two people she’s not particularly bothered by?

Her father isn’t going to ban her from his home, nor deny her a relationship with her half sisters.

The OP can rightly ban her from her home - her DH doesn't get to override that if the OP is uncomfortable. And she can refuse to facilitate a relationship with the two little ones. No invites for Christmas, or Sunday lunch. Her father can go out of his way to arrange it. I'd be done. DSD has shit on them ALL from a great height by excluding a member of their family.

NiceoneSonny · 19/04/2025 00:42

EnidSpyton · 19/04/2025 00:14

The OP hasn’t even spoken to her stepdaughter about the wedding and doesn’t know anything about it. They are clearly not close.

They don’t live together. They have never lived together. The bride’s fiancé didn’t even know she had a stepsister! So they obviously don’t see her very often.

All of this says very clearly that there is no real relationship between them. As would be perfectly natural between two totally unrelated people who are fifteen years apart in age.

Yes, the OP says her daughter will be devastated. But that might not actually be the reality for the daughter. I’m sure she’d rather be out with her mates than going to a wedding where she won’t know hardly anyone anyway!

The groom not knowing the SD has a step sister doesn't mean the SD and the 14 year old have hardly seen each other. For a start, we don't know when the "groom" was introduced to the family. You are assuming it's recently and the SD has spent years hiding the fact she has a step sister. He may have been introduced to them when he was merely the boyfriend, after a few weeks/months into their relationship, when the two of them were still getting to know each other, let alone each other's wider family.

Second, SD is close with and dotes on her little sisters. So when was that relationship being developed, and where was the 14 year old when that relationship was being developed? Surely not banished from the home each and every time over 9 years the SD was there forming this close bond with the younger two.

Third, has the OP stated the SD never lived with them? No she hasn't. I presume the SD went to one of her family homes during her uni holidays. She may well have lived with them.

Fourth, we know for certain SD went on holiday with the OP and her daughter at least once - when the OP's daughter was 11, making the SD 25. Why would the SD be going on holiday at the age of 25 with family members she isn't close to? The OP says "on holiday once". That implies to me there have been more than once holiday. There may well have been many such holidays for you you know.

Fifth, why do you think you know how the OP's daughter will feel better than the OP. And what makes you think she'll hardly know anyone at the wedding? What makes you think she hasn't got to know her step-father's other family along with her mother and younger siblings? Just because the step daughter is cold doesn't mean the rest of them are.

InterIgnis · 19/04/2025 00:43

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 19/04/2025 00:40

The OP can rightly ban her from her home - her DH doesn't get to override that if the OP is uncomfortable. And she can refuse to facilitate a relationship with the two little ones. No invites for Christmas, or Sunday lunch. Her father can go out of his way to arrange it. I'd be done. DSD has shit on them ALL from a great height by excluding a member of their family.

Lol, no, she can’t. It’s equally her husband’s house, and she cannot unilaterally ban his daughter or prevent him from inviting her for Christmas and birthdays.

That’s just wishful thinking on your part.

TheHerboriste · 19/04/2025 00:48

WhoMeMissYesYouMiss · 19/04/2025 00:29

The only thing that I am lacking is tolerance for people like you who live in the dark ages.

For the bride the 14 old is only the child of the woman married to her father. She does not consider her family and probably doesn't consider the OP family either. She doesn't have to. It sounds like she doesn't have any ill will but nor does she feel particular warmth to wards them. She does not have to. She does not have prioritise the 14 year olds feelings on her wedding day nor does she have to prioritise the feeling of her father's wife.

How absolutely and utterly clueless.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 19/04/2025 00:50

InterIgnis · 19/04/2025 00:43

Lol, no, she can’t. It’s equally her husband’s house, and she cannot unilaterally ban his daughter or prevent him from inviting her for Christmas and birthdays.

That’s just wishful thinking on your part.

LOL, it's equally her house too. She can make it plain that DSD is not welcome. How do you expect OP to rub her DD's nose in it by inviting the woman who excluded her from her wedding?

I can tell you something - if there was someone not welcome in my house, my DH would respect that and not invite them!!! If the DH were to ride roughshod over that as well as backing his horrible DD, well then I would be seriously reconsidering the relationship!

The DH can invite her all he wants. Doesn't mean the OP has to be present

HellDorado · 19/04/2025 00:52

The OP can rightly ban her from her home - her DH doesn't get to override that if the OP is uncomfortable.

But the OP DOES get to override her husband if he says “No way are you telling me I can’t invite my daughter to my own house”? Come on, think it through logically.

TheHerboriste · 19/04/2025 00:52

NoSoapJustUseShowerGel · 19/04/2025 00:27

Your husband really needs to raise it again with the bride. Point out how difficult and hurtful it would be, and gently remind her that he’d be the one paying for your daughter’s dinner anyway, so what difference would it actually make to the bride if she attended? He’s not asking for her to be included as a bridesmaid- bride and groom would probably barely notice she was there. You need to insist he asks her again.

Actually as the one paying, he is technically the host (the B&G are guests of honour) and can invite whomever he pleases. To bad he doesn’t grow a spine.

HellDorado · 19/04/2025 00:53

I can tell you something - if there was someone not welcome in my house, my DH would respect that and not invite them!!! If the DH were to ride roughshod over that as well as backing his horrible DD, well then I would be seriously reconsidering the relationship!

I think he might be too - but for different reasons.

InterIgnis · 19/04/2025 00:55

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 19/04/2025 00:50

LOL, it's equally her house too. She can make it plain that DSD is not welcome. How do you expect OP to rub her DD's nose in it by inviting the woman who excluded her from her wedding?

I can tell you something - if there was someone not welcome in my house, my DH would respect that and not invite them!!! If the DH were to ride roughshod over that as well as backing his horrible DD, well then I would be seriously reconsidering the relationship!

The DH can invite her all he wants. Doesn't mean the OP has to be present

And? If he was trying to stop her inviting someone over, she could override that too 🤷🏻‍♀️

She cannot stop her husband having his daughter over, whether you like it or not. She could be overtly hostile, sure, but that could very likely spell the end of her relationship. That may be an acceptable outcome for you, but it doesn’t sound like OP wants that.

She’s already said her husband wouldn’t allow her stopping the younger two from attending, so I’m not sure why you think her DH would be inclined to fall into line, even if yours does.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 19/04/2025 00:57

HellDorado · 19/04/2025 00:52

The OP can rightly ban her from her home - her DH doesn't get to override that if the OP is uncomfortable.

But the OP DOES get to override her husband if he says “No way are you telling me I can’t invite my daughter to my own house”? Come on, think it through logically.

Well they can't have it both ways can they?

My DH sees his sibling away from the house. They have treated me and our family like shit over the years, which he well knows but he still wants a relationship with them. Wouldn't invite them to our home.

Outrageistheopiateofthemasses · 19/04/2025 00:58

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 19/04/2025 00:50

LOL, it's equally her house too. She can make it plain that DSD is not welcome. How do you expect OP to rub her DD's nose in it by inviting the woman who excluded her from her wedding?

I can tell you something - if there was someone not welcome in my house, my DH would respect that and not invite them!!! If the DH were to ride roughshod over that as well as backing his horrible DD, well then I would be seriously reconsidering the relationship!

The DH can invite her all he wants. Doesn't mean the OP has to be present

If it were the other way around though.... If someone you love, like your child, did something unpredicted and inconceivable and yet they still did it... Would you banish your child from your own home to appease a partner? Even if the partner was the victim and your adult child was in the wrong. If she gets pregnant, would you expect him to never see his grandchild in his own home? I don't think that situation could last. Or maybe the relationship wouldn't as you have suggested.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 19/04/2025 00:59

InterIgnis · 19/04/2025 00:55

And? If he was trying to stop her inviting someone over, she could override that too 🤷🏻‍♀️

She cannot stop her husband having his daughter over, whether you like it or not. She could be overtly hostile, sure, but that could very likely spell the end of her relationship. That may be an acceptable outcome for you, but it doesn’t sound like OP wants that.

She’s already said her husband wouldn’t allow her stopping the younger two from attending, so I’m not sure why you think her DH would be inclined to fall into line, even if yours does.

Edited

Perhaps my DH is just considerate of my feelings. Most families only invite people into their home that everyone is comfortable with!

I certainly wouldn't be making my DD feel lesser by inviting this person who has treated her shabbily into her home. If the OP doesn't stand up for her DD here, who is going to?

WhoMeMissYesYouMiss · 19/04/2025 01:00

Where is the ageism? Outdated concepts of obligation aren't the preserve of the elderly.

The OP needs to hand this matter diplomatically with her daughter.

The bride doesn't have invite the 14 year old. The 14 year old is not part of her family and is old enough to understand that it is not personal.

The OP has made the brides wedding all about her daughter, even thought she has acknowledge that the 14 year old has no relationship with the bride.

As others have said it speaks volumes that the OP has not challenged the malicious things said on this thread about the bride. It would been possible for the OP to respect the bride as a decent human being but disagree with the decision she has made about inviting the 14 year old. That has not happened and it speaks volumes about the OP. As does her expectation that the bridge invite other people with whom the bride has no relationship.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 19/04/2025 01:02

Outrageistheopiateofthemasses · 19/04/2025 00:58

If it were the other way around though.... If someone you love, like your child, did something unpredicted and inconceivable and yet they still did it... Would you banish your child from your own home to appease a partner? Even if the partner was the victim and your adult child was in the wrong. If she gets pregnant, would you expect him to never see his grandchild in his own home? I don't think that situation could last. Or maybe the relationship wouldn't as you have suggested.

It's not ever going to happen to me because DH and I have been together for 40 years and have three adult DC together, and there will be no partners because if DH left me tomorrow, I wouldn't be arsed with another one!

OP's DH is at liberty to see his DD in her home, or elsewhere. If I were the OP, I wouldn't be making my own DD feel uncomfortable by having this woman in my house, period.

Outrageistheopiateofthemasses · 19/04/2025 01:02

Tameys · 18/04/2025 22:16

A decent man would not stand for this.
He would withdraw the money.
Actions have consequences.
His daughter has chosen to behave inna deeply petty nasty way.
At 29 she needs to learn about consequences.
She would no longer be wrlcome in my home.

Your poor daughter.
Another older child collateral damage in a second family.
If you have an ounce of loyalty to your daughter you will spell it out to your husband.
Let him go alone to the wedding.
My other daughters would not be going.
Consequences.
Something so many have difficulty with.

Loyalty to your children and family are important.
His daughter is nasty and wrong.
But if that is how she wishes to behave, then so be it.
But none of my children would be attendin that wedding and my marriage would not survive such disloyalty and lack of decency and character by your husband.

Spell it out for him, just exactly the damage his weakness and lack of basic loyalty will do to his family.

Edited

A decent man would not withdraw funds from his own daughter's wedding to support his wife and step child. That might make him a good partner in your eyes, but a truly horrific parent in mine.

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