@Mog65 This will be lengthy but I hope you read it, and I hope others do too. Don’t just read the first line and assume my views.
i am a trans man. Socially transitioned at 18, have had full mastectomy and phalliplasty and I ‘pass’ very well. I’m mid 30s now.
I understand what you’re trying to say, you are right, trans people have existed and some of them have used single sex spaces with no issue. A lot of them wish no harm to anyone and really do just need to pee, they just want to live their life and that’s fantastic.
BUT
You can’t deny biology, as much as some people would like to. It is what it is, you’re born how you are born. You can transition socially, change your name, wear different clothes, and everything else you think goes along with a gender. You can get some surgery to make your body look more like the gender you identify with.
But, your biological sex has not changed, nor have any medical needs associated with it.
As I said, I’ve had phalloplasty, but I do not have a fully functioning penis. I have arm skin sewn on to my pubic bone, a lengthened urethra and testicular implants in my outer labia.
I cannot get an erection, and therefore cannot penetrate anything without the use of either a device to inflate the arm skin (which I opted not to have fitted due to the massive risks of complications but that’s by the by) or some kind of strap on. It looks more masculine than my body did before, and my face looks masculine so when you meet me, you wouldn’t initially think female but nobody is going to see me naked and think I was born male because I wasn’t.
a trans man who opted for metoidioplasty will have normal sized testicular implants and their clit will have grown a little due to to testosterone. It is still a clit tho and again, you absolutely can tell. It is also unlikely to be big enough to do anything with.
A trans woman can have all the surgery in the world to look more femanine but you are going to be able to tell, and they can have surgery to invert the penis to mimic a vagina. But it still won’t be one.
in your fictional scenario,
firstly, ‘George’ will be placed on a ward corresponding to his body, not his gender identity. If he has a vagina he will be placed on a female ward and most women are okay with that. If there’s any doubt a side room will typically be used.
Since surgery, where appropriate I have been placed on male wards, with no issue. but nobody is going to think that George is a pervert on either ward.
george may well be a pervert, as might any man or women. But if they are it won’t be because of their gender identity.
Georgina however, is different
she has the strength, and likely height and build of a man, making it much easier to overpower a woman
and if she has not had surgery, then she is capable of rape. And potentially Impregnation.
and in reality, the issue isn’t, and never has been the percentage of genuine trans women who assault women.
it is the amount of men who will use self ID to their advantage to access women’s spaces with the intention of assaulting them.
it is the trans women who want to change in full view of women in changing rooms making sure that their very male penis is in full view.
How many women do you know who want to flaunt themselves like that? Even in a female space.
And why do so many trans women opt not to have surgery? If you feel you are a woman, and want to be treated as such, why would you want to keep a body part that is inherently male? Women don’t stand to pee, and can’t penetrate others without the use of an object. So if they’re opting to keep the penis (with the exception of someone who is not fit for surgery but would’ve liked it) Then they’re keeping it to use it, as a man would.
EVERYONES rights are important, but you don’t get better right for trans people by eradicating women’s right.
I don’t use female facilities, I don’t feel it would be right because I know how male I look and sound and because I wouldn’t feel comfortable in that space.
I will use the male facilities, but often I opt for the third spaces, the single accessible toilets with no gender. For my own safety, and for the comfort and safety of others (not because I am a threat, but because I may be perceived as one).
When I voiced these opinions with trans friends, I was told I was transphobic, I was excluded from my own ‘community’ because I don’t presume that my rights are more important than anyone else’s
You cannot demand equality and then kick and scream when you are not given special treatment.
And on behalf of every genuine trans person who just wants to identify as they feel, wishes no harm to anyone and just wants to live their life, who probably did use single sex spaces and cause no concern to anyone.
i want to ask you to stop.
Stop trying to justify the removal of women’s rights, stop trying to deny biological sex.
Because you’re not doing it on our behalf. You’re not helping us, or making our lives easier.
You are enabling men to encroach on women’s spaces and rights, you’re helping them have a ready excuse for being someone they have no business being, and your making women too afraid to speak up for fear of being labelled phobic.
And those like me, who have lived comfortably in society for years just going about their day, now fear having to tell anyone they are trans, because it will be assumed we want special treatment, or we believe all the things that the media says we do.