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To speak to my neighbour's about her disabled child?

538 replies

RootsBeforeTheFruits · 16/04/2025 23:16

OK I've named changed....

I've recently moved house and have been at the new house about 9 months, for the first few months next door was empty and being renovated. Once it finished it was quickly rented out to my current neighbour's. She's a nice enough woman we have a gab in passing, she had a son with additional needs.

Here's the problem ....it's a terraced style house and he frequently bangs shit out of the walls, in the day I don't mind as much it's the day, but he bangs well into the night i don't mean the odd tapping it's actually shaking our walls. It frequently wakes my children up in the night and they've been extra tired in school.

Do I speak to her about it, i explain to the children that he has additional needs and more than likely can't help this behavior, I really don't know what to do

OP posts:
Seventree · 17/04/2025 13:57

Screamingabdabz · 16/04/2025 23:23

Yes speak to her. His need to bang walls doesn’t trump your right to some peace in your own home, especially at night time.

In theory, but if his disability means that he can't help banging the walls then there may not be much his mum can do. Obviously you can't restrain a disabled child because his actions bother the neighbours.

OP, I would speak to her and ask if there's anything she can do (it's possible she doesn't realise the sound is travelling through the walls). But if it's unavoidable I think you need to consider how you can minimise the noise from your side.

DeeDeeDo · 17/04/2025 13:59

Regardless , your own DC are suffering. I couldn’t do this - my own DC (ASD) has epilepsy and lack of sleep would trigger hell.

it’s more about becoming a collective with the neighbour and trying to reach a resolution

Spottycarousel · 17/04/2025 13:59

Having been in this situation with a severely disabled child you simply cannot imagine how difficult it is and how limited you are to manage it. I was suicidal as my son didn't sleep and banged on his walls until 4am. I only had neighbours one side but the guy used to bang back and yell. There was nothing I could do. He had activities and punch bags in his room.

I have every sympathy for your own children, but it's an awful situation and and i'm not really sure how it can be resolved if the neighbours child is as severe as mine.

SouthLondonMum22 · 17/04/2025 14:00

DrPrunesqualer · 17/04/2025 13:47

It’s not relevant when it’s escalated to environmental health
A nuisance is a nuisance
Thats it

They will not tell OP she has to suck it up just because there is a disabled person causing it

That is not how it works.

The neighbour and her landlord will have to find a solution.

Additional costs of moving or renting another property is not OPs problem and nor is it Environmental healths

Edited

Which is why I personally wouldn't escalate to environmental health. I'd feel like shit watching a disabled child become homeless because of me.

SouthLondonMum22 · 17/04/2025 14:02

doreeen · 17/04/2025 13:48

And if by some miracle HAs started housing these people in detached properties then a lot of these MNers would be furious 😅

Oh, I know.

They truly can't win. I really feel for them.

Seventree · 17/04/2025 14:03

DrPrunesqualer · 17/04/2025 13:32

That’s not an excuse though.
Noise is noise.
If it’s disturbing others late at night it’s a nuisance.

But that's not true. A baby crying is noise but it can't be helped, neighbours just have to put up with it even though it's unpleasant and disturbs them. A disabled child falls into the same category.

Ruddhullettonashed · 17/04/2025 14:03

My son is like this. We are detached but the banging was disturbing his siblings. The council padded his walls which put a stop to it as he wasn’t getting the same sensation. We also looked at getting a Safespace which would have helped and can sometimes be funded by a grant from the council. Not your responsibility of course but just wanted to say that there are things that should help. You and your children shouldn’t be suffering because of this. Maybe your neighbour isn’t aware of people who can help. I wasn’t and only got help when I felt I couldn’t cope anymore.

Spottycarousel · 17/04/2025 14:03

ButterCrackers · 17/04/2025 13:25

Use thought - keep him physically away from the wall. Do you think it ok for the op? Would you welcome this noise? I think not.

Keep him away from the bedroom wall...in his own bedroom...at night?

x2boys · 17/04/2025 14:06

BMW6 · 17/04/2025 13:37

Then perhaps the child should be housed in a detached property so the wall banging does not impact neighbours.

Yes in an ideal world but we dont live in an ideal world.

Sheeparelooseagain · 17/04/2025 14:09

My son was a wall banger. We ended up putting padding on his walls and then bought a specialist bed that he sleeps in. We had to pay for all of this and it was very expensive - bed cost £9000. It is very difficult to get things like this funded.

ButterCrackers · 17/04/2025 14:10

Spottycarousel · 17/04/2025 14:03

Keep him away from the bedroom wall...in his own bedroom...at night?

What do you suggest? Sounds like this kid is at risk of injury.

x2boys · 17/04/2025 14:11

TheHerboriste · 17/04/2025 13:44

Have you addressed this with the neighbours, apologized, looked for soundproofing solutions?

Why shoiuld i apologize for having a disabled child ?
He cant control his behavior howwever the area i live in is deprived and there is far more anti social behaviour than a disabled child being disabled.

Ruddhullettonashed · 17/04/2025 14:12

Sheeparelooseagain · 17/04/2025 14:09

My son was a wall banger. We ended up putting padding on his walls and then bought a specialist bed that he sleeps in. We had to pay for all of this and it was very expensive - bed cost £9000. It is very difficult to get things like this funded.

Maybe it depends on the local authority. Ours were brilliant.

Sheeparelooseagain · 17/04/2025 14:12

"Then perhaps the child should be housed in a detached property so the wall banging does not impact neighbours."

Which fantasy world do you live in.

Bluebell865 · 17/04/2025 14:13

ButterCrackers · 17/04/2025 13:54

Do you think that the op is being unreasonable? Do you think that she and family have to put up and shut up?

My understanding is a bit more nuanced than your very simplistic thinking. I have also a answered this question up thread. HTH.

Spottycarousel · 17/04/2025 14:14

ButterCrackers · 17/04/2025 14:10

What do you suggest? Sounds like this kid is at risk of injury.

I wish I had one. Short of putting a child in a cage which is obviously totally wrong or forcing a helmet on them there's nothing. Which was my point. I've been there.

Bringbackspring · 17/04/2025 14:15

I've been where you've been OP. My whole house used to rock from early in the morning with all the stamping around. As unfortunate as it was for the boy and his family, it is a nightmare to live next to, and I did feel a bit helpless as what can you really say? It's easy to be a stranger on the internet saying "Of course you need to say something", but it's a lot bloody harder to do that IRL, especially if the parents already seem at the end of their tether. I was lucky in the end that they moved out after a few months.

I also used to live in a flat below 2 poor kids whose mother was a total wreck. They used to throw balls in the flat at 6am on the weekends, right above my bedroom. Their mum was an aggressive alcoholic and not one for talking. I complained loads to the landlord, who was trying to evict her but it was almost impossible to do due to her circumstances.

Bumpitybumper · 17/04/2025 14:19

SouthLondonMum22 · 17/04/2025 14:00

Which is why I personally wouldn't escalate to environmental health. I'd feel like shit watching a disabled child become homeless because of me.

OP must advocate for her own children. Sleep is extremely important for a child's health and development. It's not just a little bit inconvenient or something that she can easily make allowances for. It's is having a tangible impact on their life as a family.

SpainToday · 17/04/2025 14:22

Bluebell865 · 17/04/2025 12:32

Not sure what you expect her to do? I have 2 disabled children and I wish there was an off button. If you find it hard, imagine how difficult it must be for her. I wouldn't say anything as there is nothing that can be done.

As someone said earlier - as sad as this is, the OP should not be forced to share her misfortune.

ButterCrackers · 17/04/2025 14:25

Bluebell865 · 17/04/2025 14:13

My understanding is a bit more nuanced than your very simplistic thinking. I have also a answered this question up thread. HTH.

Simplistic lol - Selfish applies to you though. HTH

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 17/04/2025 14:25

OldCottageGreenhouse · 17/04/2025 12:17

OP should not have to do any of this! The law states that regardless of neighbours’ situations, every household is entitled to ‘quiet enjoyment’ of their home. Yes, it’s true that noise is only considered noise nuisance after 11pm and before 7am, but before these times, reasonable quiet enjoyment is still a legal entitlement and this is being completely removed from OP’s children and the noise is negatively affecting her own children and affecting their schooling.

I have a child with autism myself who can be loud (though not to this extent) but thankfully I’m aware that this doesn’t mean that my DD is allowed to do whatever & make whatever noise she wants. I’ve taught her to be considerate of others and redirected her to other, less loud methods of stimming. Our neighbours always assure me they can’t hear anything from our side. It absolutely does not need to be this way, just because the poor boy has Autism. There can be solutions.

That's lovely that your daughter understands you and can be redirected. Many high needs autistic people can't be so easily redirected. They have limited understanding for the world outside of their head, and have a monotropic view in regards to behaviours and interests. You simply can't make them understand others need for calm and quiet because it's beyond their capacity.

I don't actually know what the OP can do, but I also have a high needs autistic child and he can't be stopped once he starts stimming. He barely sleeps. He won't be redirected, it causes further distress which is louder and can go on for hours.

We live with family who own their property though and our neighbours are profoundly deaf. I'm not in OPs situation at all.

If I were OP and in rented accommodation I would just move.

Bluebell865 · 17/04/2025 14:26

SpainToday · 17/04/2025 14:22

As someone said earlier - as sad as this is, the OP should not be forced to share her misfortune.

a disabled child is a 'misfortune' now? nice one.

SouthLondonMum22 · 17/04/2025 14:26

Bumpitybumper · 17/04/2025 14:19

OP must advocate for her own children. Sleep is extremely important for a child's health and development. It's not just a little bit inconvenient or something that she can easily make allowances for. It's is having a tangible impact on their life as a family.

I'd hope to reach some kind of compromise and be prepared that things may take time due to cost and accept that not everything may be possible due to cost.

I wouldn't be rushing to make a disabled child homeless. He has to live somewhere.

Of course sleep is important but I also think it's important to acknowledge the difference between actual nuisance behavior and noise that isn't intentional such as babies crying and a child with special needs who has limited to no understanding.

ButterCrackers · 17/04/2025 14:26

Spottycarousel · 17/04/2025 14:14

I wish I had one. Short of putting a child in a cage which is obviously totally wrong or forcing a helmet on them there's nothing. Which was my point. I've been there.

A helmet might protect from head injury. One of my kids wore one.

Allseeingallknowing · 17/04/2025 14:32

TheHerboriste · 17/04/2025 13:44

Have you addressed this with the neighbours, apologized, looked for soundproofing solutions?

It’s not for the OP to sort out soundproofing solutions, plus she has already said it ‘s a rented house.